Skip 5k mile service?

[jafrush]

I've got a 3 month old Trail that just hit the 5,000 mark.

I read that the 5,000 mile service is basically tire rotation and checking fluids.

I don't really need the tires rotated because I just put on KO2's and they only have about 2,000 miles on them.

I can check fluids myself.

Dealer is an hour away and because of my schedule I'd have to take a half day of vacation to make it over there, weekends are full up right now.

So if I'm skipping the tire rotation, is there really any point to do the 5,000 mile "service"?

 

[ellis36]

When I took mine in at 5000 miles all the dealer did was rotate the tires and “check fluids.” Unless the 5000 mile service is a necessary check-off for warranty purposes, it was a waste of time.

 

[meder24]

I skipped my 5,000 mile service. I documented my tire rotation so that if need be, I could show it was done. I didn't rotate in the spare though as this would have required moving the TPMS sensor. Will have this done at my 10,000 mile service and free oil change.
Checking fluids is something that should be done much more frequently than every 5,000 miles so I kind of laughed at that one.

 

[SSDuck8]

My only concern would be warranty issues. I have a family member that was too early on some of the maintenance and this ended up voiding his warranty. Its like they have us by the short hairs with the warranty. I think as long as you can document it, you'll be fine (such as if Discount Tire did the rotation with the new tires, etc.)

 

[meder24]

I too had the same concerns until I read the warranty booklet that came with the vehicle. The excerpt below eliminated the worries.

 

[jbjones85]

I skipped it, no point for me to drive 30 minutes and sit around for an hour + for them to rotate my tires (also had KO2's put on and they only had about 3k on them) and make sure my coolant was the right height in the bottle. I will be doing the 10K though for the oil change.

 

[spawn]

Quick question: I owned my 2016 4runner SR5 for 6 months with 8000+ miles. I did my 5k service thought. Now i received a an email from Toyota saying it is time to do the 10k service. But when i looked at the manual it says 10k or 12 months. Any thoughts? Thanks.

Ps. Not trying to hijack the thread.

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[jafrush]

I too had the same concerns until I read the warranty booklet that came with the vehicle. The excerpt below eliminated the worries.
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Nice, that makes me feel better about skipping it.

I skipped it, no point for me to drive 30 minutes and sit around for an hour + for them to rotate my tires (also had KO2's put on and they only had about 3k on them) and make sure my coolant was the right height in the bottle. I will be doing the 10K though for the oil change.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'll do the fluid checks myself. One of the few line items was "check driver's floor mat." Eye roll.

Quick question: I owned my 2016 4runner SR5 for 6 months with 8000+ miles. I did my 5k service thought. Now i received a an email from Toyota saying it is time to do the 10k service. But when i looked at the manual it says 10k or 12 months. Any thoughts? Thanks.

Ps. Not trying to hijack the thread.

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My last vehicle, an Acura, I got email reminders from their service department. Seemed like they estimated the mileage I'd have on it based on the previous service intervals they saw and would preemptively send out "service reminders". So they probably guessed based on your previous interval.

 

[Foundation]

I was just thinking about this today and it looks like I'm going to go ahead and wait for 10K as well.

 

[Engineer]

Sounds like you got it covered. If you have done or are doing to do everything in the manual there is really no reason to bring it to the dealer unless you really want that "service record" for someone to be able to look up in the future on a dealer computer vs. relying on your own info written in the book.

To the person who mentioned the "service departments e-mails"......I would ignore it and go by the manual.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

My only concern would be warranty issues. I have a family member that was too early on some of the maintenance and this ended up voiding his warranty.

That's illegal.

As long as you document the mileage and save your receipts you are 100% covered by law. And doing the maintenance "too early" is hogwash.

There is no way in hell changing your oil @ 5k vs 10k (if you choose to do so) is a problem for either the warranty or your vehicle. ;-)

I think your family member was feeding you a line of shit.

 

[korborh]

Yes skip it and avoid them screwing up something.

I naively went for my 5k - the stealership messed up the torque on several lugnuts for all four tires and lost the valves stem cap on one.

 

[SSDuck8]

That's illegal.

As long as you document the mileage and save your receipts you are 100% covered by law. And doing the maintenance "too early" is hogwash.

There is no way in hell changing your oil @ 5k vs 10k (if you choose to do so) is a problem for either the warranty or your vehicle. ;-)

I think your family member was feeding you a line of shit.

This is a very condensed version of the story, and to save the other members from reading a bunch of crap, the extended version of this short story is that lawyers were involved and in the end, Ford Motor Company ended up buying the vehicle back, because, as you stated, it was illegal. Major damage control was done by the local Ford dealership. The alluring part of the deal is when he bought the truck, it had a lifetime warranty, provided the maintenance schedule was followed to the 'T'.

I recommended that if he does anything outside of the dealership to keep record of it for this reason.

I guess to make things clear, I should have been more specific when I initially posted this.

All in all, my point was dealerships have rules that they play by and often times then not, the customer gets the dirty side of the stick.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

This is a very condensed version of the story...

Got it. Yes, hopefully somebody at the dealership got their butt in a sling for that madness. If I want to change my oil every 100 miles I am perfectly within my legal/warranty rights to do so.

Years ago I had a motorcycle salesman tell me I had to have my new bike serviced at the dealer or my warranty might be void. I read him the riot act (loudly I might add) and laughed in his face.

He turned red, manager came over and apologized profusely for "misinformation". Yeah, right. I'd bet $50 they did that to every customer - before and after me. Never bought a bike from then again and bad mouthed them to anybody that asked.

They went out of business a few years later and ripped off a bunch of people who were stuck with motorcycles and no titles when they closed the doors. Scumbags one and all.

 

[FrontRange4Runner]

I went to my first 5k. After waiting 2 hours for a tire rotation and free wiper fluid, I was not a happy camper. Never again....

 

[Redsoxx1918]

My only concern would be warranty issues. I have a family member that was too early on some of the maintenance and this ended up voiding his warranty. Its like they have us by the short hairs with the warranty. I think as long as you can document it, you'll be fine (such as if Discount Tire did the rotation with the new tires, etc.)

What? You're telling me that you have a family member that performed scheduled maintenance ahead of schedule and Toyota voided his warranty. No way. I'm not 18 and I've owned dozens of vehicles. Not once, and I mean once, with many different brands, have I brought a vehicle in for a warranty issue and they asked me for proof of tire rotations, fluid changes or filter changes. I'm not buying it. There's
more to your story.

You're well within your rights to rotate your own tires, change your own oil and filters, change your own plugs etc.

 

[Redsoxx1918]

I too had the same concerns until I read the warranty booklet that came with the vehicle. The excerpt below eliminated the worries.

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You don't even need records to show that the maintenance was performed. You don't need to keep receipts. If you read the warranty statement, it tells you that. Their disclaimer about denying a claim for lack of maintenance is simply common sense. Obviously, if you change your oil and replace it with tomato juice, they are not going to replace your engine when it blows. If your engine overheats and blows up because your coolant leaked out and you decided not to replace it, you might have a problem. Just perform the needed maintenance in a relatively timely manner and you'll never have an issue. You're well within your rights to do the maintenance in your own garage. It's up to them to prove that a problem was directly caused by your mistreatment and neglect.

 

[SSDuck8]

What? You're telling me that you have a family member that performed scheduled maintenance ahead of schedule and Toyota voided his warranty. No way. I'm not 18 and I've owned dozens of vehicles. Not once, and I mean once, with many different brands, have I brought a vehicle in for a warranty issue and they asked me for proof of tire rotations, fluid changes or filter changes. I'm not buying it. There's
more to your story.

You're well within your rights to rotate your own tires, change your own oil and filters, change your own plugs etc.

Post 13 details it further. It was a ford issue, not Toyota.

 

[Lester Lugnut]

After the botched 5K & 10K dealer service, I simply went back to doing it myself as I always have.

 

[meder24]

You don't even need records to show that the maintenance was performed. You don't need to keep receipts. If you read the warranty statement, it tells you that. Their disclaimer about denying a claim for lack of maintenance is simply common sense. Obviously, if you change your oil and replace it with tomato juice, they are not going to replace your engine when it blows. If your engine overheats and blows up because your coolant leaked out and you decided not to replace it, you might have a problem. Just perform the needed maintenance in a relatively timely manner and you'll never have an issue. You're well within your rights to do the maintenance in your own garage. It's up to them to prove that a problem was directly caused by your mistreatment and neglect.

Are you directing this at me?