2021nightshade4x4
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Limited is where it’s at. H4F.
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Snow and ice settings
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21_4runner
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in snow - 2wd, good tires, and speed control will get you places. youll be fine
ice - pop it in 4hi, youll be fine
stuck - pop it in 4lo + locker, youll be fine
use those fancy ceiling controls all you want, test them out. youll be fine.
RedZnRunner
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On a crowded urban roads just use 4WD high. Drive defensively and the truck will get you home fine. Finally had a chance to use it the other day and its even more planted. No violating laws of physics. Just plain sense.
More snow please. Want to try it in 6 to 10"
More snow please. Want to try it in 6 to 10"
So was my Grandson on UM move in day a couple of years ago…. What a shit show, haha
This got me thinking, I have a 2014 Trail Edition, I don't know if I've touched any of those knobs since I got the truck home. I think I put it in crawl mode once just to see what would happen, it sounded like it was tearing the transmission apart with the ratcheting action. I know I've only had it in 4Lo once, that paved driveway looked tricky. But that's what happens when you buy a truck based on the hood scoop, wheels and KDSS package.
Jetboy
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A few thoughts:
You generally will stop faster on snow and ice in 4hi than 2wd. It's complicated physics, but it's true. If you need the full explanation I can provide when I have some time. You can see that it's true yourself. There's YouTube comparisons as well. So if it's slippery there's a brake distance benefit to 4wd.
The colder it is the better the traction on snow and ice. Coefficient goes up as temp goes down. Slipperiest condition is right near freezing. By 0* F it's about the same as dry gravel roads.
And it's hard to roll a 4runner without a tripping point like a curb or soft shoulder of a road. So try not to hit a curb going sideways - like doing doughnuts in a parking lot. That's how you'll flop on your side..
And you can drive in 4hi anytime you want. Even dry road. It's won't hurt anything. Don't be afraid to put in 4wd wherever you feel like you'll need it. A stretch of dry roads isn't a big deal.
You generally will stop faster on snow and ice in 4hi than 2wd. It's complicated physics, but it's true. If you need the full explanation I can provide when I have some time. You can see that it's true yourself. There's YouTube comparisons as well. So if it's slippery there's a brake distance benefit to 4wd.
The colder it is the better the traction on snow and ice. Coefficient goes up as temp goes down. Slipperiest condition is right near freezing. By 0* F it's about the same as dry gravel roads.
And it's hard to roll a 4runner without a tripping point like a curb or soft shoulder of a road. So try not to hit a curb going sideways - like doing doughnuts in a parking lot. That's how you'll flop on your side..
And you can drive in 4hi anytime you want. Even dry road. It's won't hurt anything. Don't be afraid to put in 4wd wherever you feel like you'll need it. A stretch of dry roads isn't a big deal.
For rust prevention, spray Fluid Film all throughout bottom and inside door panels. I spray it two times a year.
I just leave it on unless I’m in a situation where maintaining momentum is important, such as going uphill or going through deep snow.
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I'm probably 30 minutes east of you, with family in your area.
4HI when the roads are totally covered in snow or ice. Then remember proper following distance. The 4HI definitely inspires confidence but its very easy to become overconfident, and that's what puts you in the ditch.
4HI when the roads are totally covered in snow or ice. Then remember proper following distance. The 4HI definitely inspires confidence but its very easy to become overconfident, and that's what puts you in the ditch.
2021nightshade4x4
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How would silicone spray (like power companies use on their nonconductive tools) work for providing this coating?
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Finslayer83
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Rare big snow here in Middle TN.
4H and some skinny pedal
:becky:
4H and some skinny pedal
:becky:
DAW89446
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I live in north-central Nevada. I run an ‘18 SR5 with BFG All Terrain T/A KO2s. The nearby interstate gets all the attention, but in town and in the county plowing isn’t a priority so snow and ice gets deep and icy.
I’ve lived and driven in the snow since I started driving five decades ago.
When the roads are snow covered, I’m in 4WD high range. There are times my 4Runner is left in 4WD for long periods of time because of little or no snow melt. I avoid sudden acceleration, turns and braking. If the street or roads are icy but have lengthy areas that are dry, I shift in and out of 4WD. If corners are dry I’ll either shift into 2WD or widen my turn to minimize drivetrain wind up.
My other vehicle is a ‘12 Subaru Outback. It’s also an excellent snow car. Since it’s full time 4x4 with automatic torque vectoring it’s easier to drive in alternating snow/ice/dry condtions.
I could never understand the thinking of those who are driving 4WD vehicles in snow conditions that are sitting there spinning their back wheels going nowhere or barely in control …
I’ve lived and driven in the snow since I started driving five decades ago.
When the roads are snow covered, I’m in 4WD high range. There are times my 4Runner is left in 4WD for long periods of time because of little or no snow melt. I avoid sudden acceleration, turns and braking. If the street or roads are icy but have lengthy areas that are dry, I shift in and out of 4WD. If corners are dry I’ll either shift into 2WD or widen my turn to minimize drivetrain wind up.
My other vehicle is a ‘12 Subaru Outback. It’s also an excellent snow car. Since it’s full time 4x4 with automatic torque vectoring it’s easier to drive in alternating snow/ice/dry condtions.
I could never understand the thinking of those who are driving 4WD vehicles in snow conditions that are sitting there spinning their back wheels going nowhere or barely in control …
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Humble Leader
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come and take the snow from canada. If I never saw snow again I wouldn't even be fussed. the other day it was near -10 F outside with windchill.
driving in the snow is fun like a handful of times after the first snowfall and when no one else is on the roads. commuting or driving through the snow with many other drivers around you gets old real fast. also sucks when you come out in the morning and your windows are all iced over from the night before.
I could tolerate warmer winters where the snow melts rather quickly but ice and eyeball freezing windchills, no one likes those
90Duck
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air down
I am running Kumho AT51 tires with the mountain/snowflake symbol year round, they are technically considered snow tires, but they are not anywhere as good as true snow tires with the softer compound. Once the snow settles in here, I generally air down the tires, at least for around town driving and going up to Mt Bachelor when I'll be on snow all the way. It increases tire surface area on the road, thus increases traction. I do like to hit the mud/sand/dirt MTS mode since it will work in 4H. Not sure if it helps a whole lot, but it does work as bit more advance traction control cutting power while still allowing some wheel spin than the standard traction control.
In town you have to get used to pulling out of snow covered local streets onto the cleared major streets, which requires starting in 4H to get moving quickly and then shifting out as you turn onto the cleared pavement. That maneuver was a lot trickier in my old '94 Isuzu Trooper with a 5 spd manual, which required both shifting from 1-2 and out of 4H while turning and accelerating onto the cleared street. Good times!
I am running Kumho AT51 tires with the mountain/snowflake symbol year round, they are technically considered snow tires, but they are not anywhere as good as true snow tires with the softer compound. Once the snow settles in here, I generally air down the tires, at least for around town driving and going up to Mt Bachelor when I'll be on snow all the way. It increases tire surface area on the road, thus increases traction. I do like to hit the mud/sand/dirt MTS mode since it will work in 4H. Not sure if it helps a whole lot, but it does work as bit more advance traction control cutting power while still allowing some wheel spin than the standard traction control.
In town you have to get used to pulling out of snow covered local streets onto the cleared major streets, which requires starting in 4H to get moving quickly and then shifting out as you turn onto the cleared pavement. That maneuver was a lot trickier in my old '94 Isuzu Trooper with a 5 spd manual, which required both shifting from 1-2 and out of 4H while turning and accelerating onto the cleared street. Good times!
DAW89446
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I replaced a ‘02 Tacoma TRD with my ‘18 SR5, the Tacoma was equipped with the optional pushbutton 4-HI engagement button on the side of the transfer case shift lever (the lever only shifted between high and low ranges plus neutral). That was far easier to shift in and out of 4WD than the rotary knob of the 4Runner as it didn’t require one to take their eyes off the road, reach forward and across the console, and push in the lockout button.
The 4WD button on the Tacoma was simply push and go. But it also could be accidentally engaged without knowing, even with the truck shut down. Once, a year or so after I bought the truck new, I got in the truck and drove 60 miles along 65 mph highways home from work on a warm July day; not realizing that I was in 4-HI until I turned right up my street and felt the crow hop. :dammit: The truck is still in the family, with well over 200k miles, all its OEM parts and never has experienced any drivetrain issues.
The 4WD button on the Tacoma was simply push and go. But it also could be accidentally engaged without knowing, even with the truck shut down. Once, a year or so after I bought the truck new, I got in the truck and drove 60 miles along 65 mph highways home from work on a warm July day; not realizing that I was in 4-HI until I turned right up my street and felt the crow hop. :dammit: The truck is still in the family, with well over 200k miles, all its OEM parts and never has experienced any drivetrain issues.
Lexington
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What do you usually drop your PSI down to for driving around town?
MJCIII
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wife has an SR5 Premium, even turning off trac control still cant do donuts. Some sort of trac contriol always kicks in. Am i missing something, or because i dont have MTS i cant do them.
But other than that i run Snow specific tires in the winter on stock wheels, summer tires on after market wheels
