SR5 Speaker Install - Time Sensitive Info

DavidPapke

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After poking around the threads, some suggested sites, talking to a rep at Crutchfield, and visiting a local independent car stereo shop, I was convinced that the only way to improve the sound of my standard 8-speaker system yet keep the stock head unit was to utilize a sound-processor to prepare the signal for an after market 6-channel amp and upgrade the speakers at all 8 spots.

The speakers swap-out was going to add its own extra level of difficulty due to a lack of commercial bracket kits for the 4Runner, the shallow spaces, and proprietary sizes. I was pretty discouraged as the independent shop wanted 7 hours of labor to do the full install and even Crutchfield said I would need some custom work done for the fittings if I chose to try it myself.

So, not expecting much, I went to Best Buy and ended-up talking with the installer and he was VERY cool and suggested that I should try speakers first and maybe that would be enough and he was not at all intimidated by any installation issues with the 4Runner. We talked Infinity speakers (my favorite), but ended up with Polks - and we talked fitments and tweeters for the dash (pros and cons without a separate fader), etc.

Long story, short: Picked-up the truck today and it sounds so much better! It only took the guy about 2 hours for all 8 speakers, even though he did have to creates some brackets for the front doors and do some "creative wiring" for the front dash.

Specifics:

Polk DXi 650 for the rear doors and rear hatch
Polk DXi 690 for the front doors
Polk Dxi 350 for the dash (yes, these simple acoustically-matched tiny speakers fit and are probably a better, and cheaper, choice than trying to do the traditional tweeter set-up).

Here's the important thing: There's a current special where you can get a $100 installation credit when you spend over $200 on Polk speakers. They created 2 invoices for the 4 pairs of speakers and so installation was only about $40 for the whole truck!

Total out the door for the whole shebang was right around $480. The installer said it would sound better with the amp, and even though I know I could appreciate the difference the amp would make, I'm thrilled with the current set-up and the deal I got and don't see needing to add anything at this point.

By the way, the installer and I were amazed at how chintzy the stock speakers were and how small the magnets were - I can't believe they still put stuff like that in new cars anymore.

I hope this helps anyone thinking about the same move as the installer said the Polk credit just got extended another week but that he thinks it's going away after that - I know some guys could do this themselves just as well or better than the folks at Best Buy, but my days of messing with car stereos are long past and so to get 4 pairs of decent speakers successfully installed for under five bills and to have such an improvement in sound quality as a result makes me think all is indeed right with the world (for now, anyway...).

-David
 
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Wow that awesome I am pretty unhappy with the stereo in the new 4runner you figure 40k would get you some better stuff. I had kicker 6 1/2 components in the doors of my sr5 and a kicker comp vr 12in sub with a kenwood deck sounded great. I have been contemplating what should I do with the new 4runners stereo maybe this cheap install for polks is just the push I needed lol.
 
Sounds like you're happy with the results but why go through all that trouble without replacing the deck? That's probably the easiest part and will definitely improve your sound.
 
I'm glad you found a set up that you are happy with.

Normally the first step is to change the head unit. This will create the biggest impact, especially when there is no amp involved.

Sounds like you got a pretty good installer. I've heard quite a few Best Buy horror stories.

Do you plan to upgrade the head unit or add an amp?
 
Speaker replacement

Glad to hear you had success with your speaker update. Yesterday i tore out the back panel for the subwoofer and found a real cheap 8" sub. I was going to buy a 10" replacement but found out it was only an 8" any suggestions on a good sub replacement?
 
I like the look of stock (didn't care for the pics of the new fascia on a different thread). Also, wanted to keep steering wheel controls. Plus, my wife is less annoyed by unexplainable upgrades when she doesn't have to see it right in her face every time she gets in the truck. I will add the sound processor and amp if I become disappointed in the future, but I have heard mixed reviews about the sound processor route as it can add hard-to-remove white noise to a system. Right now, I think I'm sticking with what I got for a while. Oh, no "trouble" at all with this process...

-David
 
Normally the first step is to change the head unit. This will create the biggest impact, especially when there is no amp involved.
actually, if you're only going to change one or the other (HU or speakers), upgrading your speakers will make the biggest, most cost-effective improvement in sound quality; the speakers reproduce/create the sound, after all. upgrading to better quality speakers will improve clarity and dynamic range, making the most of the what the stock HU has to offer, while upgrading your HU alone is just improving the "source" but ultimately ineffectual because it's only able to deliver that sound to your ears via the same flimsy, paper-cone speakers.

to the OP's point, i'm not surprised to learn how chintzy the base SR5 speakers are. my '06 SE's stereo was without a doubt the worst factory car stereo i've ever owned—the worst. every time i turn it on, i'm absolutely certain i did the right thing by getting my Trail with the Nav/JBL package. for a factory stereo, it sounds great.

congrats to the OP: enjoy the new tuneage! :pimp:
 
actually, if you're only going to change one or the other (HU or speakers), upgrading your speakers will make the biggest, most cost-effective improvement in sound quality; the speakers reproduce/create the sound, after all. upgrading to better quality speakers will improve clarity and dynamic range, making the most of the what the stock HU has to offer, while upgrading your HU alone is just improving the "source" but ultimately ineffectual because it's only able to deliver that sound to your ears via the same flimsy, paper-cone speakers.

to the OP's point, i'm not surprised to learn how chintzy the base SR5 speakers are. my '06 SE's stereo was without a doubt the worst factory car stereo i've ever owned—the worst. every time i turn it on, i'm absolutely certain i did the right thing by getting my Trail with the Nav/JBL package. for a factory stereo, it sounds great.

congrats to the OP: enjoy the new tuneage! :pimp:

No. Not really. Aftermarket head units put out more RMS than the stock units.

Aftermarket speakers are designed to operate on much more power than the stock head unit can put out.

You will see a difference from both, but most people go with the head unit first.
 
experts agree that speakers are the most cost-effective upgrade to start: like here and here; notice tip #1.

RMS doesn't matter a whit if you're just driving additional power to the same crap speakers.
 
Where is your supporting documentation that says "most people go w/ the head unit first? Is there some aftermarket survey firm that researches this?

Honestly, I don't see the value/point of making that statement - especially since you have no way to back up your claim and since the OP & topic are specifically about swapping out and fitment with aftermarket speakers.

:hunter: Whackadoodle.

No. Not really. Aftermarket head units put out more RMS than the stock units.

Aftermarket speakers are designed to operate on much more power than the stock head unit can put out.

You will see a difference from both, but most people go with the head unit first.
 
I'm not here to argue with y'all. Just trying to make helpful suggestions. Take my advice however you choose.

Search a little online and you will see what I'm saying.

Crutchfield is by no means an "expert" in the car audio industry.
 
no worries. but since the OP has already upgraded his speakers and is "thrilled with the current set-up" it's not exactly productive to chime in with "normally the first step is to change the head unit" ... "this will create the biggest impact" ... "do you plan to upgrade the head unit or add an amp?" that's essentially a thinly-veiled way of saying "you're doing it wrong."

the guy is happy with his new Polks. it may not conform with your personal feelings on the subject, but there it is.
 
no worries. but since the OP has already upgraded his speakers and is "thrilled with the current set-up" it's not exactly productive to chime in with "normally the first step is to change the head unit" ... "this will create the biggest impact" ... "do you plan to upgrade the head unit or add an amp?" that's essentially a thinly-veiled way of saying "you're doing it wrong."

the guy is happy with his new Polks. it may not conform with your personal feelings on the subject, but there it is.

Exactly. Which is why I started off by saying "I'm glad you found a set up your happy with."

Each person should do whatever they want and feel best with.

I'll stop cluttering up this thread now. Ha.
 
Hey Guys,

I just wanted to post some feedback and to alert anyone interested about a deal that might be going away sometime soon.

At 50 y.o., I have enough sense and experience with car audio to understand the pros and cons of the different decisions, but thanks for the input all the same.

One thing I have noticed is that folks hungry for real-world experiences on 5th Gens have a hard time coming up with useful data when searching the Internet. The fact that Google finds the threads on this forum means I'm sending out my info to you guys and to others who may be experiencing the same thing.

I know this thread would have been useful to me as a new SR5 owner contemplating a stereo upgrade, so I wrote it with that kind of audience in mind.

I figure it's just a part of the community bond as it was this forum that planted the seed to try and get my tires swapped out by Firestone, which actually worked and saved me tons of miles of waiting and/or a chunk of change in the short run.

Thanks,

-David
 
Glad to hear you had success with your speaker update. Yesterday i tore out the back panel for the subwoofer and found a real cheap 8" sub. I was going to buy a 10" replacement but found out it was only an 8" any suggestions on a good sub replacement?

Where is the stock subwoofer location?
 
Thanks for the good info and contribution to the forum!

Just wondering ? Did the installer say anything about what kind of speakers were in your front doors or did you see them ? I have a Limited and the front doors have a 6x9 subwoofers ONLY in them,not triaxials. The Polk dxi 690's are 3 way speakers. If I'm only getting a bass response to them from my amp,seems like overkill(overpay) to put a 3 way in them.
 
Thanks for the good info and contribution to the forum!

Just wondering ? Did the installer say anything about what kind of speakers were in your front doors or did you see them ? I have a Limited and the front doors have a 6x9 subwoofers ONLY in them,not triaxials. The Polk dxi 690's are 3 way speakers. If I'm only getting a bass response to them from my amp,seems like overkill(overpay) to put a 3 way in them.

All the speakers looked the same - simple single cone, low profile speakers with almost nonexistent magnets (I will try to upload a couple of pics of the speakers). The front dash speakers did have capacitors to limit the low frequencies, but I don't think they were tied to any kind of paired crossover network with the larger speakers in the front doors. I agree, I think you would want to upgrade to a high-quality component set to get the most from your expenditure.

Interestingly, although I was very worried that the after-market magnets would drain all necessary power to the system, overall volume seemed about the same but overall quality was vastly improved. I half-expected to have to go in right away and finish the job right by adding or replacing other pieces, but I don't think it's needed at this point (hence, my overall very satisfied post).

Pics when I get a chance...
 
As promised...
 

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