Starting the build. Looking for some confirmation and/or tips & suggestions in 2020.

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Starting the build. Looking for some confirmation and/or tips & suggestions in 2020.

Hello all!
Alright I'm pretty new to the lifting/off-roading scene. I've had my 4Runner for a little over a year now ('06 V8 Limited 4WD, 168K with virtually no rust) and before that I daily'd a lowered E46 M3 6-speed. Still have it...it's a project car now but it is back home sitting in a garage until I can take some leave and bring it up. But, it's finally time to turn the 4Runner into a proper rig.

Over the last couple of weeks I've been researching and figuring out what I want. It's a daily but I've always dreamed of building up a 4th gen. Once I find some decent trails/dirt roads to tear up (shouldn't be a problem in WA...hopefully) I want it to be fully ready and capable but still get me to the shop in the morning. It has XREAS and, like most 4th gens with it nowadays, it's completely shot (or at least about to be). Probably my fault from towing the Bimmer (~7500lbs total towed weight) 1600 miles and hauling a$$ down some twisty, bumpy dirt roads near my last duty station. It's leaky, clunky (bushings, no doubt) and very saggy in the rear. Body roll is atrocious. I know it will never be as tight and planted as the Bimmer but I know it's not supposed to roll like a monster truck. The end goal is to be lifted at or above, or at least very close to, 3" up front and 2" in the rear sitting on 33" M/T's (which is 285/70, I think?) with 17x9" (or 17x8.5"...more on that later) wheels. Undecided on M/T's though.

Here's the parts list:

Bilstein 6112/5160 setup
2" OME rear coils (<- very open to suggestions but OME seems like the standard)
KYB top hats (old hats look OK but new hardware is better hardware, right?)
Bilstein shock boots (do I even need these though? They seem practical and the "Bilstein Blue" color would be a nice touch but it seem like nobody runs shock boots)
Freedom OffRoad UCAs (pretty set on this brand. Good reviews and perfect for moderate applications like mine and they come at a decent price)
Poly bushing refresh everywhere (sways and links, mainly).

Wheels are a toss up between Pro Comp Bandidos or Motegi Trailites (black finish for both). I really like the size (17x9"; -06mm offset), the slight "dish" look, and matte finish of the Pro Comps but they are kind of common. The Motegi's (with a +00mm offset) stand out more and just look plain cool. The only thing I don't like about them is the width: 8.5". It's only half an inch but I just like that wide tire look. I know offset can be adjusted with spacers so I'm not too worried about that. But will a 9" width just cause more issues?

I know this build is 100% possible and I'm fully aware of the trimming (and possible BMC) I'll have to do to fit the wheels. All of my lifting tools are back home but the hobby shop on base here is definitely sufficient (helpful & knowledgeable staff, vehicle lifts, spring compressors etc). I'm pretty mechanically savvy and have done tons of work/maintenance on the BMW but that is a different beast in and of itself. I'm just looking for some suggestions or gee-wiz information on what to expect during install and some intel on the longevity/durability as well as handling and ride performance.

I'll be installing some light work, a roof rack, relocate the spare (in the rack maybe?), and install a push bar/bumper but that's later.

I've already bought the Bilstein kit (includes front coils) and top hats. But advice on rear coils and bushings would be appreciated!

Well any advice, on anything, will be greatly appreciated, really.

Cheers!
 
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You will have less fitment issues with the Motegi, plus they look better than the other option. Keep us posted on what you end up getting.

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This may sound silly, but the OME coils in the back may ride stiff until you throw a rear bumper on. I'd recommend Bilstein B12's or Dobinsons C59-325's.

I ran the OME 895's and even with my 35 on the back, they seemed very stiff on and off road. I currently run a ProComp 2" that suits my needs, but it took some trial and error! Seems like we will all share differing setups based on how WE wheel. How are YOU going to use it?

:grouphug:
 
You will have less fitment issues with the Motegi, plus they look better than the other option. Keep us posted on what you end up getting.

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Yeah I think I will be sticking with the Motegi's and some spacers. The Pro Comps are cool but look like they belong on a truck. I'll be updating this thread with pictures.

Nice to see a fellow New Mexican. Hope The Land of Enchantment is doing well in these trying times!

You don't mention whether or not your Limited V8 with XREAS comes with the optional factory RAS (rear air suspension).

How To: Convert RAS to Coils

RAS to Coil Conversion

Help! Rear air suspension conversion

Oh yeah I forgot these things had that option. No air bags, thankfully. Maybe down the road for towing purposes though..

This may sound silly, but the OME coils in the back may ride stiff until you throw a rear bumper on. I'd recommend Bilstein B12's or Dobinsons C59-325's.

I ran the OME 895's and even with my 35 on the back, they seemed very stiff on and off road. I currently run a ProComp 2" that suits my needs, but it took some trial and error! Seems like we will all share differing setups based on how WE wheel. How are YOU going to use it?

:grouphug:

It'll mainly be a commuter with some occasional spirited off-roading; not looking to crawl, really. But yeah I've read that Dobinson is another forum favorite. Thank you for providing the part number too. Might go with these, actually.
But 30 minutes after I posted this thread I remembered that we can use FJ springs. Googled it and found this sticky (on this forum, of course):

Compiled: FJ Springs Lift Info for 4th gen

Nice little write up. According to the OP, springs for FJ's between '07-'09 are a direct fit and net a 1/4" lift in the rear. Not even close close to 2" but I reckon I could get a brand new set of Moogs (or some other brand) and throw a 1.5" spacer (I don't usually drive around with a load) in the back. The other posts in that sticky report that it's a stiffer ride but not that stiff. But is this really worth it? New FJ springs are half the price but if I'm not going to safely achieve enough lift (a little rake is fine but the closer to level the better) then I might as well buy springs that are designed for a 2" lift, like the Dobinson C59-325.
 
Well, completely forgot I had this thread. No idea if anyone will see this but in any case I did say I would upload pictures. It's been over a year but here are some pictures I snapped today before work.

Parts list located in initial post of this thread.

Went with Dobinson coils for rear lift (C59-325s) and Motegi Trailites 17x8.5" with Falken Wildpeak A/T (285/70).
Initially the lift was good and basically level but after a year it would seem that it has "settled" at this height. The front Bilstein 6112's are set to the max lift setting (which is 3", I think?). I used the front coils that came with the Bilstein kit.

So, as you can see, it is not level and barely looks higher than stock in the front if I'm honest. I rub at full lock on the body mount (tires even catch on the fender and makes a terrible racket) but only under certain situations (uneven surfaces, parking lot driving etc). Otherwise, the ride quality is fantastic and it handles bumpy roads wonderfully.

Next move will be to get the front higher which will probably end up in another thread since I don't think anyone will see this.

But, if someone does see this, cheers!
 

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