Still interest in V8s?
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fourwd1
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Not much action ??? :wow2: :wow:
There's 20+ trucks in the 4sale section right now, with a third to half being V8's.
Did you really look?
I did look. The first page of for sales goes all the way to the beginning of May. Doesn't seem like much for sale compared to before.
fourwd1
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If buying a gasser, I'll always go for the V8 and refuse to sell mine. I get random people asking if I want to sell it. It does looks great for a 2005...inside and out. Since I live in the mountains, they are far nicer to drive, or the V6 would be just fine. If I did buy a new 4Runner and if it had a turbo 6, I'd absolutely buy one. I just don't like this NA V6 it has...feels so not torquey. Still holding off though, and will wait for a real hybrid or EV to be the next one.
BlackWorksInc
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Most people who have the V8 4Runners like them and don't want to sell them (myself included), so I don't know how much "movement" you see on them to be honest?
I did for a short while strongly consider begrudingly selling my 4th gen V8 and switching to a 5th gen, particularly when I could have easily gotten $30-40k for the vehicle back a year or so ago when prices for used vehicles was ridiculous.
But the more I've thought about it and the more I am starting to doubt I'll really like the 6th gen (though, even if I did I'd still wait a few years), I've decided to just put some more money into my 4th gen and add the little things I want and update other things for now.
I imagine probably a lot of V8 owners have done the same, I've noticed with the 4th Gen V8's in particular... we're a bit of an odd stubborn bunch who really enjoy our vehicles through and through.
I did for a short while strongly consider begrudingly selling my 4th gen V8 and switching to a 5th gen, particularly when I could have easily gotten $30-40k for the vehicle back a year or so ago when prices for used vehicles was ridiculous.
But the more I've thought about it and the more I am starting to doubt I'll really like the 6th gen (though, even if I did I'd still wait a few years), I've decided to just put some more money into my 4th gen and add the little things I want and update other things for now.
I imagine probably a lot of V8 owners have done the same, I've noticed with the 4th Gen V8's in particular... we're a bit of an odd stubborn bunch who really enjoy our vehicles through and through.
Oldmanb777
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Gas mileage is more about the idiot with his feet mis-using those pedals close to the floor, than about the engine.
Depending on who you ask, and possibly the region of the US, the v8's are either really sought after for their power or shunned for their gas mileage. I'm in the former camp. When my 3rd gen poops the bed I can't wait to mod the v8 4th gen. I'm liable to put 35's on the thing. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the transmission in them must also be beefier than the 4th gen v6's. Wouldn't think a v6 and v8 could share the same trans, but I'm not knowledgeable in all this.
AuSeeker
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The V8 and the V6 use the exact same transmission, the exception is with the 2003 and 2004 models, the 2003 V6 and the 2004 V6 both have a earlier 4 speed transmission and is a non-sealed, it has a dipstick.
The 2003 V8 has a earlier version of the 5 speed transmission and is a non-sealed transmission with a dipstick and use type IV transmission fluid and not the WS fluid.
The 2004 V8 is the first to have the sealed 5 speed transmission and uses the WS fluid, which is the same transmission for all 4Th Gens from that point onwards no matter if it's a V8 or a V6, on 4WD models there however is a difference in the transfer cases on a V8 and a V6, the V8 is full time 4WD, the V6 is able to switch between 2WD or 4WD.
Yea I hear you. I was after a V8 4R for so long that in 2019 I ended up purchasing 2 of them. I ended up selling one of them off earlier this year and now I am on the fence selling the other. I just don't drive it much since I have other cars I enjoy driving more. My Ford Maverick just came in and now I am in a conundrum. It's not an SUV, but it has all the newer creature comforts my 4R is missing that I have grown to enjoy on my other newer vehicles. Remote start, heated steering wheel, adaptive cruise, lane centering, etc. It gets better gas mileage and is quicker. In fact the 4R is the slowest vehicle in the lineup now, aside from my 1T Ram (and the Fj60...)
I am on the fence of selling the 4R, or the Maverick. I can flip this Maverick for an easy 6-8K more than I paid for it, after taxes. The market is that crazy on them right now. Or I can sell the 4R and try out the Maverick for a while. I have had previously 2 3rd gens and 2 4th gens, a Tacoma, a Tundra and a Camry so I am partial to Toyotas.
I do have a Trackhawk for an SUV that gets bad gas mileage, but it's stupid fast. I don't really need 2 SUVs that get bad gas mileage
I started looking to see where the market was which is why I posted this question. I am reluctant to sell it because they are in short supply. But it's wasting away in my garage not being driven so maybe it's time to let someone else enjoy it.I would love to hear a review for the Maverick from a Toyota owner. It's on our list of potential vehicles in a couple years. We need a truck, sometimes, but not a full-size - especially if I can do some mods so that the Maverick can haul lumber and sheets of ply.
If not in general discussions, perhaps in the off-topic forum.
suaveflooder
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Same!! I have a neighbor that has one and I like it!!
Honestly, I am on the fence. I have a Lariat with the Lux package. My total vehicle cost was $33K. MSRP 35.8. I ordered it in September of last year for one of my employees. I got tired of waiting so I purchased him a nicely equipped Escape with the same options. MSRP on the escape was higher, but ford was discounting the escape plus 0% financing and I need to put him in a vehicle with better fuel economy. Fast forward 4 months my Maverick comes in.
I have quite a few vehicles from a Ram 3500 Limited and BMW, etc. The Maverick has features I can't find on any vehicle in this price point. Lane centering vs lane assist for example. The BMW has the lane centering and it's awesome. The Lane assist on the Jeep and ram are OK, but nothing compared to the Ford/BMW setup. The adaptive cruise is what I really like. From that perspective, the Maverick is an amazing value. It has all the features of a much more expensive vehicle. The truck drives very quiet for a "cheap" vehicle.
My only complaint is the lack of bed space I guess. For a work vehicle I would rather see a smaller rear seat and a longer bed. For a personal vehicle I think the back space has quite a bit of room. The truck is longer than the my 4th Gen. Almost 200" long and the 4R 20" shorter. From that perspective I can't figure out where the length is. I think the rear cargo area of the 4Runner is about 36" deep and there's more leg room in the rear of the 4R. The Maverick is approx 4.5' bed length.
I like that I can put tall stuff like a snow blower in the back of the 4Runner and it's secure. I have a soft tonneau cover on the Maverick which limits security and can only put stuff as tall as the bedrails if I want it covered. I suppose I could get a fiberglass cap to make things more secure if I wanted.
The interior is nice for being cheap materials. I own some vehicles 3x the cost of the maverick, but honestly it doesn't bother me. Everything looks nice and the quiet ride gives the impression it's a more expensive vehicle. I feel the Escape has the slight edge on interior. It looks nicer with softer materials, even though it's a dated design.
Size wise it's narrow. More like the original Ranger. I had a 2006 Ranger and stepped into a 2009 Tacoma. The Tacoma was huge compared to the Ranger.
Power is fine. The 2.0 EB has 250hp and a 270 tq. It's a peppy engine and these things are supposed to do 0-60 in 6 seconds and 1/4 in mid-high 14s. Trans is lackluster. I had a 2.0 Golf R with the dual clutch auto and that combo was the bees knees. Power for days and the trans was lighting quick.
I am averaging 25mpg and that should get better with break-in. Should be seeing 28 eventually. The Escape took about 5K miles to show 2mpg i improvement it's the same drivetrain. IF you are looking at them for a replacement for a 4Runner, I think you will be disappointed. An SUV is more usable imo. If you need the bed space or small truck, I think it's an excellent vehicle. It's basically a small car with a 4.5' bed in the back. The value for what you get is really amazing though. I am looking to get a couple Hybrid XL or XLT models and put a contractor cap on them for my service guys. I figure it will net 33-35mpg with a cap and the vehicle cost will be 22-25K depending on options. The XLT is the sweet spot for this vehicle imo. The Lariat with all the options @ 35K gets expensive, but again, there's not many vehicles that can compete at that price point. GMC and Chevy are due for a refreshed version of their small pickup next year. So is the Ranger I believe.
At the end of your day, it really depends on your needs and wants. imo if it's your only vehicle I rather have a nicer half ton since I feel it's more usable. If cost is a concern, then it's really the best value. A $35K compact truck will get you half of the features that the Maverick has. However, it will be more capable offroad & towing.
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PhoenixAZ4Runner
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I'm about to sell my 4th Gen (2008) 4x4 V8 Sport Edition, and I am going to MISS that engine. It's hard to find something that has the kind of responsiveness and power that you get with the V8. Everything else ends up feeling wimpy in comparison.
