Sup Boys

[chunderboy]

Man, has it been a while since i posted. Mostly b/c work is getting seriously busy with new clients.

So, i took a ride in my boys brand new taco with the offroad trd package with the billsteins.

My question is this, do you think that they would ever make a 4runner with the trd package. That thing was sweet by the way

 

[greasefingers]

Since you have no friends here

 

[chunderboy]

lol DICK

It is the bfg's and the suspension. The thing is sick looking. But to be honest, i think the hood scoop on the taco doesn't look as nice as on the 4unna.

 

[BenSD]

It would be nice, but I doubt they would do it. In order to do the full job on the 4Runner, it would also need to have some more ground clearance. I don't think Toyota is willing to release a 4runner with a stock lift and upgraded suspension for liability reasons in the event of a rollover.

 

[Koz]

The TRD off-road package (on my Taco) included 31" LT tires (for 12" ground clearance), skid plates, off-road tuned front/rear springs, Billstein shocks, a rear locking diff and 410 gears. OH, I forgot the fancy off-road stickers. By the way, even with all these goodies the 4Runner is more capable off-road.

The TRD blower is not part of the off-road package.

I think Toyota is trying to divert attention away from the off-road capabilities of the 4Runner because the average consumer will not be going off-road and is looking for a people mover. Also the average person will see an off-road package as causing a harsh ride regardless of weather it actually does. The people who want to go off-road will know that the 4Runner is equipped and designed to go off-road.

You could look at the 4th gen 4Runner having an off-road package as a standard feature; 17" tires that equal 31" height, high tech electronics that do a great job at creating traction (using traction control), a center locking dif, hill/decent assist, 2 speed transfer case, skid plates, etc. Look at the Pathfinder, it has an optional off-road package that doesn't even have all the off-road equipment/features the 4Runner has standard.

Koz

 

[Thai]

I am dying to know the answer to this question: Can you have VSC package and TRD package (with rear locker) on the same truck?? I would kill for a Tacoma if you can have both!

 

[Koz]

I am dying to know the answer to this question: Can you have VSC package and TRD package (with rear locker) on the same truck?? I would kill for a Tacoma if you can have both!

You can not get both. If you get the off-road package, you get the locker. If you get the stability control, you get a limited slip. Sorry!

Koz

 

[Mark86]

Drew, I was wondering where you were. You have been too quiet. How was the Tacoma's ride compared to the 4Runner?

 

[chunderboy]

MARK

SUp bro. Work has just been nuts over here, but that is a good thing.

ANywho, the ride was def stiffer. But it def seemed to have more body roll as well. The off the line performance was basically the same, but the interior wasn't as nice as ours. It was def dif, but chinseier i thought. But i do love the fact that there was an option for the trd package. This thing had a mean stance and def was taller than ours.

I was jelous, and he def knew it and exploited it.

 

[JB.]

By the way, even with all these goodies the 4Runner is more capable off-road. Koz

That's a surprise to hear. I'd love to hear more about why you think so. I've wondered a couple of times whether I should've gotten one instead of a 4runner. I had assumed it was more capable off road.


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[Bill42]

The blower comes on the Tacoma TRD Sport package. The off-road packaged Tacoma looks sweet.

 

[Koz]

The blower comes on the Tacoma TRD Sport package. The off-road packaged Tacoma looks sweet.

There is NO blower available for the Tacoma so I don't know how it could be part of the sport pacage.

Koz

 

[Koz]

Sport package with Tow

Includes sport suspension, Bilsteins, 17" alloys, limited slip differential, 115V/400W power point, fog lamps, power windows, power mirrors, remote keyless entry, cruise control, hood scoop, color-keyed exterior sliding rear window with privacy glass, sport seats with driver's side lumbar, TRD sport graphics, Class 4 hitch, transmission oil cooler, supplemental oil cooler, heavy duty battery, 130A alternator and 7-pin connection with converter.

Off-road package with Tow

Includes power windows, power door locks, keyless entry, black power mirrors, cruise control and sliding rear window with privacy glass, chrome grille surround and rear bumper, color-keyed front bumper and overfenders, metallic tone I/P, upgrade fabric, leather steering wheel and shifter, sunvisors with mirrors and extensions, SR5 badging, driver's seat lumbar support, off-road suspension, Bilsteins, 16" x 7" alloys, P265/70R16 tires, locking rear differential, 115V/400W deck power point, sport seats, TRD Off-Road graphics, Class 4 hitch, transmission oil cooler, supplemental oil cooler, heavy duty battery, 130A alternator and 7-pin connection with converter.

Koz

 

[Koz]

That's a surprise to hear. I'd love to hear more about why you think so. I've wondered a couple of times whether I should've gotten one instead of a 4runner. I had assumed it was more capable off road.

I think the biggest advantage the 4Runner has is the way the weight is distributed and the fact that it is much heavier. The ass end of a taco is very light, that

 

[greasefingers]

Koz: do you still have your supercharged Taco? I do not see it under your signature.

 

[Koz]

Koz: do you still have your supercharged Taco? I do not see it under your signature.

Absolutely, but I will be taking a good look at the new Tundra with the 400+HP new V8 coming soon!

Koz

 

[chunderboy]

KOZ,

Is the new tundra going to be equipped with the same v8, just bored out?

And maybe you know this, why is the avalon equipped with a 285 hp v6, and my 6 is 245?

 

[SevenJ]

I was jelous, and he def knew it and exploited it.

So given the chance to trade him straight-up--your runner for his taco, do you do it?

 

[chunderboy]

absolutley not. I have a sick love affair with my rig. I just like the fact that it came with that equipment. But i love the fact that mine has really nice on road and offraod manners. His ride was def stiffer, and had a lot of body roll in the corners.

Don't get me wrong, his truck is great, and if i was just starting out looking at the 4runner and the new taco with the trd package, it would be a hard decision, but since i have the 4runner, and am used to the creature comforts i.e. one touch start, better stereo system, sun roof, xreas, better brakes etc. etc. etc. i wouldn't think twice.

Who knows about the next rig i get, at that point i am going to have a difficult problem deciding....

 

[Thai]

And maybe you know this, why is the avalon equipped with a 285 hp v6, and my 6 is 245?

Your engine is tuned for low-end torque. Avalon is tuned for HP. Avalon also has the latest engine technology including DUAL (intake and exhaust) VVTi...while the 4runner has only VVTi on the intake valve side.

Your 4runner's big V6 can produce maximum torque at a much lower RPM (aka low end torque). The Avalon is tuned for high-end HP for acceleration.

Off-topic, I think that Toyota made a small mistake in planning out it's engines. The Avalon V6 has a lot more power than Lexus GS300. The Lexus engine is smaller too. And don't forget, the new Lexus IS350 will have a version of Avalon's engine too...making the cheaper IS350 having a lot more power than it's bigger brother, GS300. (The only positive thing about the 3.0 L V6 on GS300 is that it has direct fuel injection and has great fuel economy numbers.)