I have a 2000 Toyota 4runner four-wheel-drive with worn out and quaking front suspension. It’s more of a daily driver and an off-road machine I was thinking about going with Moog front, suspension parts, A arms, and ball joints Has anybody used Moog, any feedback. Also I need to replace the front axles and CV joints. Does anybody have any recommendations for me? I’ve been looking at CVJ axles. Once again this is more of a daily driver than off-road. Anybody have any experience with Napa or any other brand? Thanks
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Rushthezeppelin
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Stay away from moog even on a daily. OEM ESPECIALLY with the lower ball joints is the best way to avoid the dreaded situation of the lower control arm separating from the spindle. Also probably good to stick with OEM for the a arms. Lots of reports of bushings failing after only a few 10s of thousands of miles. OEM arms with bushings will last 200+k. As far as CVs especially as a daily if you don't have a lift Napa or Autozone duralast should work just fine. In the future you can do a google search and look at the results specifically from t4r. Most of these questions have been answered numerous times on here.
JoeT4R
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No truer words have been spoken before... Lol.
Agreed with all the above.
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Dutch-Runner '99
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Also try Conicelli Toyota or other online based dealers for parts. My local Toyota dealer won’t price match the online prices I can find for OEM, but even with shipping I end up saving money online vs buying local.
Genuine OEM Toyota Parts | Conicelli Toyota of Conshohock
brillo_76
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I don't agree..
. Granted, it's best if possible to use lower oem ball joints if heavy strain is on them. Tim has videos on how to check the ply in ball joints. If your joints are out of tolerance, you replace them. If you run oversized tires and are lifted, you check them more often.
I have moog lower ball joints with grease fittings and grease them often to keep the dirt and water out.
If you run normal tires on the road only. They will last. I have 60k on my lower ball joints, and they are still within tolerance. [ I want to be able to grease them as to why I use moog. ]
Now, if you want to off-road, run oversize tires and lift. I really recommend checking your play in your lower ball joints every 5 to 10k miles. You can't feel the .5mm play on those lower joints. It's impossible. You need to verify they are good and within spec and use oem lower ball joints.
Why do you think they added the lower ball joint covers on the 01 and 02 3rd gens for? They are to keep the water and dirt out of those joints.
Don't forget to use the proper bolts that spiker engineering tested and proven are the best to reuse as well.
Just my thoughts on it.
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brillo_76
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The main concern is the engineering flaw in the front lower ball joint. Which has a pile of threads on the subject matter
On my experimental machine [ Tetanus1] I have moog lower ball joints, inner tie rods, outer tie rods. As both front and rear sway bar links and inner tie rod billows.
I have no idea how the moog bushings would hold up in the front upper and lower control arms
Lots of folks like poly bushings in place of the oem rubber bushings when they are shot.
I always say it's folks' rigs they can do as they wish.
I can only over feedback on what I have done and tested with.
My moog parts worked well for road daily driving which is what Tetanus1 built for in 2015 when I threw it together for a work mobile.
Now I kinda wished I took more time protected the steel better.
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JoeT4R
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The only Moog products I run are inner and outer tie rods. They've been fine, but my rack is leaking from somewhere. For ball joints I'd only use oem and nothing else. I couldn't risk it or have peace of mind if I went with something aftermarket for those. But hey, that's just me. Take it for what it's worth.
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jgue467
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I recommend all OEM, which is what I did, 62 suspension parts replaced last Dec.
Cheap, no way yet the originals did last 340,650 miles.
Took some effort to find all the parts, no one had all of the, so I used different sources, all dealers across the country.
This site helped with parts lists and some parts: Toyota Parts and Accessories - Official Online Store
Luck.
Cheap, no way yet the originals did last 340,650 miles.
Took some effort to find all the parts, no one had all of the, so I used different sources, all dealers across the country.
This site helped with parts lists and some parts: Toyota Parts and Accessories - Official Online Store
Luck.
They also offer fre shipping which is hard to pass up. I just got a pair of rotors and pads from them and saved $65 on shipping alone.
