Synthetic Oil Change for $17

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Georgiey22

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In December I scored 7 quarts of Mobil 1 5W-20 Annual Protection for $2 a quart. Purchased a new OEM oil filter + drain plug washer for $4.

Today I changed my oil, my T4R has 28,000 miles, and the old oil had 7,500 miles. I added copper anti-seize to all the skid plate bolts and will run this oil for 7,500 miles. Not a bad final price for Mobil 1 and a little DIY. Job took 45 minutes to complete.
 
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Georgiey22 said:
In December I scored 7 quarts of Mobil 1 5W-20 Annual Protection for $2 a quart. Purchased a new OEM oil filter + drain plug washer for $4.

Today I changed my oil, my T4R has 28,000 miles, and the old oil had 7,500 miles. I added copper anti-seize to all the skid plate bolts and will run this oil for 7,500 miles. Not a bad final price for Mobil 1 and a little DIY. Job took 45 minutes to complete.
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That's a great deal. Wrong oil weight though!
 
salong53 said:
Nobody cares unless you tell us where you got the stuff so cheap, and if the deal is still going.
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correct on your comment .. he probably was high on drugs and hit the wrong key ..

also the taxes on his oil purchase would be more than $17....since he is from CA....

then using the wrong engine oil spec.
 
northcoast said:
Truck won't know the difference at CA temps, and may even be a more stable oil (although that's not really an issue in these engines).
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That just proves that you know very little about oil sir. Any idea how the VVT-i works??? I didn't think so.

Toyota even startes in the manual that 5W-20 can be used in a pinch but should be changed out asap.


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Bayou_Pro said:
That just proves that you know very little about oil sir. Any idea how the VVT-i works??? I didn't think so.

Toyota even startes in the manual that 5W-20 can be used in a pinch but should be changed out asap.


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Yeah. Not true.

20 weight oils are very shear stable. And the difference between 0w and 5w is cold weather pumpability and not much else. Living in MN? I'd be hesitant. CA? Not so much.
 
northcoast said:
Yeah. Not true.



20 weight oils are very shear stable. And the difference between 0w and 5w is cold weather pumpability and not much else. Living in MN? I'd be hesitant. CA? Not so much.
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I know exactly what the differences are but you know better then Toyota engineers so do what you want. [emoji849]


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Bayou_Pro said:
I know exactly what the differences are but you know better then Toyota engineers so do what you want. [emoji849]


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Then what's the harm? Viscosities at operating temps are nearly identical as are most of the other specs. Pour point is different but that doesn't hardly matter at temperatures above zero.
 
northcoast said:
Then what's the harm? Viscosities at operating temps are nearly identical as are most of the other specs. Pour point is different but that doesn't hardly matter at temperatures above zero.
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Cold start up is the point. These engines have very tight tolerances. It's pretty simple just to use the correct oil. The end.

Toyota does sample and analyze the oil on an engine claim. What's going to happen to this guy's engine warranty when Toyota finds the wrong weight oil in his blown motor. And I'm not even saying it's going to happen from 5W oil. I'm just playing devil's advocate here.


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Bayou_Pro said:
Cold start up is the point. These engines have very tight tolerances. It's pretty simple just to use the correct oil. The end.

Toyota does sample and analyze the oil on an engine claim. What's going to happen to this guy's engine warranty when Toyota finds the wrong weight oil in his blown motor. And I'm not even saying it's going to happen from 5W oil. I'm just playing devil's advocate here.


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I'm a spec guy, too. I go with 0w-20, but again, the cold start up differences aren't realized until well below zero.

And we both know these engines are so good, we could probably run lard or oil based personal lube in them.
 
northcoast said:
I'm a spec guy, too. I go with 0w-20, but again, the cold start up differences aren't realized until well below zero.



And we both know these engines are so good, we could probably run lard or oil based personal lube in them.
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Yes I do agree with you on that. It would get expensive to do a 7 quart KY lube change on them. [emoji1787]

I was a parts manager at a large Toyota dealer for many years so I have seen some engine failures though. I can't ever recall one on a 4.0L but have seen them on the 5.7s and the 3.5s. In every case oil samples were collected and sent to Blackstone Labs for analysis. I can only remember one claim that was denied due to lack of maintenance. Looked like oil had never been changed and customer couldn't produce a single receipt or CC charge.


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MossJenks said:
Good lord. This thread really shows the best side of T4R.org, doesn't it?
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Thanks for calling this out, you are right.

For the most part, I’d have to say I’m disappointed in our T4R community with this threads comments. I have helped many with suspension questions and seeing these had me laughing and disappointed. Thought our community of T4R owners was better than that.

A few notes...filter was $3, not $4 (text error on iPad). Total was $17. Furthermore, 5W20 is within spec, per the manual, although it does state replace at next change. It was noted earlier in this thread, the pour temp of a 5 weight vs 0 weight is a bit different however since the lowest temp in So Cal rarely dips below 40 degrees my T4R will never know the difference. My truck is now out of warranty as of January, I will be switching the truck to any 20 or 30 weight that I get on a smoking clearance deal from this point forward. Watch me get 200,000+ miles with 0 engine issues. A friend of mine works for Toyota and he has shared with me openly that his dealership uses 5W20 in all new Toyota’s when they are brought in for free Toyota Care oil changes because the operating weight is 20 and they can purchase drums of semi synthetic 5w20 less than 0W20 full synthetic. Perhaps they are all going to implode. I haven’t seen invoices personally however this is what I was told and he works there now.

The oil was purchased at AutoZone on clearance locally, they had 3 jugs and purchased all 3.

Good day, friends!
 
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Georgiey22 said:
A friend of mine works for Toyota and he has shared with me openly that his dealership uses 5W20 in all new Toyota’s when they are brought in for free Toyota Care oil changes because the operating weight is 20 and they can purchase drums of semi synthetic 5w20 less than 0W20 full synthetic.
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I'm sorry you think it's wrong for someone to call you out on using the wrong weight oil. From my experience all oil threads go off topic.

So a Toyota dealership uses the wrong weight oil and not a full synthetic, against Toyotas recommendations, because it's cheaper. Says a lot about this deales trustworthiness doesn't it? This must be a small dealership if they are buying oil by the drum. Most dealers get deliveries in bulk trucks.

You are correct though it's your truck and your money so do what you want.



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