The best off-road ditch light kit?

[?????]

i highly doubt that he is as independent and objective as you claim.


I run DD and lasfit products on my vehicle and they perform so similar and are constructed so similarly, that you can't go wrong with either companies products. Where I have a problem with DD is their fanboys making BS claims, and they love to use that TW thread to back up their BS.



Again, everything depends on your own budgets and needs.

What makes you think he is not a truly independent tester? I've personally visited his house and seen his testing equipment and he's even demonstrated how several "testers" out there either using the incorrect or even literally Alibaba equipment.

What you're saying is you have a problem with output numbers demonstrated in an objective manner...

DD has a following for a reason and it's because they don't claim outlandish things like BD has in the past and perform as advertised. Unlike the Baja Designs SAE foglights for example....

The thread on TW is sourced so much because it provides ample information without the BS.

If you don't believe me then simply send a message to OP himself.

He is a wealth of knowledge and answers everything you ask.

 

[?????]

my lasfit driving optics are better than the Baja designs SAE optics. :shrug:

now, my baja designs XL pro's are ridiculously bright and totally wash out the lasfits.

Practically everything is brighter than the Baja SAE offering. Including OEM foglights.

 

[N2TRKYS]

Just the setup, maybe even a nighttime shot.


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10-4. I’m off on a mule deer hunt right now. I’m tagged out and waiting on my hunting partner to get his, so I have some spare time. Lol

I’ll try to get some pics tomorrow.

 

[honda250xtitan]

Practically everything is brighter than the Baja SAE offering. Including OEM foglights.

they were the biggest waste of money ever. and then i saw Crashburn's review and i felt relieved it wasnt just me who thought that.

 

[mrblah]

What makes you think he is not a truly independent tester? I've personally visited his house and seen his testing equipment and he's even demonstrated how several "testers" out there either using the incorrect or even literally Alibaba equipment.

What you're saying is you have a problem with output numbers demonstrated in an objective manner...

DD has a following for a reason and it's because they don't claim outlandish things like BD has in the past and perform as advertised. Unlike the Baja Designs SAE foglights for example....

The thread on TW is sourced so much because it provides ample information without the BS.

If you don't believe me then simply send a message to OP himself.

He is a wealth of knowledge and answers everything you ask.

Are you not capable of drawing your own conclusion through your own testing?

Please show me where I made this statement:

"What you're saying is you have a problem with output numbers demonstrated in an objective manner..."

Sounds like that above statement, is a good description of your own posts since you don't want to test the lights for yourself....

DD fanboys love that thread on TW because its the ONLY source they can quote, that makes it far from legitimate.

DD has a great marketing team.

Let me repeat it for you one more time;

I own both DD and Lasfit products and run both on my vehicle, and real world performance and construction are SIMILAR. You cant go wrong with either manufacture.

You don't have to believe me though, you can believe whatever you want to validate your purchase..ROFL.

 

[?????]

Are you not capable of drawing your own conclusion through your own testing?

Please show me where I made this statement:

"What you're saying is you have a problem with output numbers demonstrated in an objective manner..."

Sounds like that above statement, is a good description of your own posts since you don't want to test the lights for yourself....

DD fanboys love that thread on TW because its the ONLY source they can quote, that makes it far from legitimate.

DD has a great marketing team.

Let me repeat it for you one more time;

I own both DD and Lasfit products and run both on my vehicle, and real world performance and construction are SIMILAR. You cant go wrong with either manufacture.

You don't have to believe me though, you can believe whatever you want to validate your purchase..ROFL.

I'm not up to spending thousands on testing equipment and I bet you aren't either. Especially when someone else has all the equipment already as a hobby?

1. Our eyes are not an objective light reading meter.

2. Name one place that has TRULY independent testing that isn't owned by a lighting company for the Lasfit offerings. I'm genuinely curious on the output.

Better yet, send them to the gentleman in the TW to keep the same baseline.

You keep stating that it's the only place that DD "Fanboys" cite their source and your statement is again subjective until proven with numbers. Not saying the lights are crap, but I want to see the actual output numbers.

That thread is the only place I've seen thus far that has continued to provide the numbers without BS.

If you are happy with the lights that's great, but saying they are the best doesn't work that way.

I hope they're close to keep the competition thriving for better products.

 

[mrblah]

I'm not up to spending thousands on testing equipment and I bet you aren't either. Especially when someone else has all the equipment already as a hobby?

1. Our eyes are not an objective light reading meter.

2. Name one place that has TRULY independent testing that isn't owned by a lighting company for the Lasfit offerings. I'm genuinely curious on the output.

Better yet, send them to the gentleman in the TW to keep the same baseline.

You keep stating that it's the only place that DD "Fanboys" cite their source and your statement is again subjective until proven with numbers. Not saying the lights are crap, but I want to see the actual output numbers.

That thread is the only place I've seen thus far that has continued to provide the numbers without BS.

If you are happy with the lights that's great, but saying they are the best doesn't work that way.

I hope they're close to keep the competition thriving for better products.

If a person decides to test a product, and nobody can verify the test results, that does not make it objective, or conclusive. I'm not saying the results are false, but its far from considered conclusive or factual, nor is it considered a credible source. IF someone is dumb enough to quote someone else's unverifiable work...well you might get some raised eyebrows.

Now if you want to compare your own experiences with someone else's experiences (such as the OP on TW) then thats legit..but thats not what you are doing.

DD fanboy's love to quote sources that they themselves cannot verify. Why is that?

I never said Lasfit is the best in this thread. Are you trying to validate your statements or something?

The OP on TW can reach out to lasfit on his own time, or let me guess, he won't test products unless he gets it for free...hmmmm....

Seriously, why don't you post about your experiences with aftermarket lights and post some pictures, vs. posting other people's experiences and pretending its some kind of gospel. You might gain some credibility.

I just love how people love to use 3rd party experiences in lieu of their own experience and think it has the same level of credibility...:lmao:

Anyways, I've already said my piece. Feel free to misconstrue my statements as much as you want to fit whatever narrative you like..lol. I'm going to get back to commenting on lighting.

cheers

 

[mrblah]

my lasfit driving optics are better than the Baja designs SAE optics. :shrug:

now, my baja designs XL pro's are ridiculously bright and totally wash out the lasfits.

maybe baja and rigid SAE replacements is to cater to the OEM manufacture's specs, not necessarily to improve on those specs, in order not to create a nuicense when used on-road/freeway/hwy.

Another theory, is they went through the dot/sae process before other manufactures jumped into the game, and since they wanted to get fast approval, had a more conservative approach to lighting output and lens design...who knows.:shrug:

I'm just happy we have alot of manufactures to choose from these days.

 

[FiveO4Runner]

What I find interesting is that no where did I as the OP of this thread make the claim that these are emphatically the best. It was posed as a question for my fellow 4Runner owners to research and find out for themselves.

I make this very clear before posting the video that I would like to do further comparisons. I know everyone has their own opinion, some are brand loyal, others have deep pockets, others are on a budget. I just want to continue to bring a plethora of content to help you make a decision one way or the other for what is right for you.

I’m hoping this can steer back to a more focused thread. What do you run and WHY?, is it based on reputation, a video you watched, real world experience?. How have they proven themselves and their durability?, was cost a factor for you?


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[Sempre Nissart]

I got the diode dynamics SS3 Pro ditch light kit (comes with brackets, plug and play wiring and switch) from hotshot offroad for $370. Price is hard to beat for the quality of these.
I love them and most definitely would recommend.

Hotshot off road had a sale a couple months ago that they posted on the forum. It was my first time ordering from them and they were really good with fast shipping

 

[spartacus]

Bright exterior leds suck on two lane mountain roads.

 

[FiveO4Runner]

Bright exterior leds suck on two lane mountain roads.

Interested in why that is?


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[Ripper238]

Practically everything is brighter than the Baja SAE offering. Including OEM foglights.

lol no. Baja SAE are probably brighter than most but how they make them SAE is odd with there lens covering and cuts down on the max visual output.

I got the SAE Baja's for there quality and made in US. They were definitely a huge improvement over OEM and better coverage. Mostly got them because the headlights suck and they made a decent improvement filling in the dark spots the stock headlights fell short.

I also ended up splitting the LED's to half Amber and half white and also added a set of S1's for backing down the trails. Brightest things I have ever seen for such a small size.

 

[?????]

To get back on topic.

I run the DD SS3 PRO Selective Yellow pods on the Cali Raised brackets.

Chose the brackets as they looked to be the lowest profile.

It gets pretty snowy/icy here in WA, especially in the passes and backroads from the mountains to where my ceramic coated OEM LED headlights aren't always clear.

The lights get hot to thaw the snow and ice buildup which is a big plus.

Also, being able to change lenses within a few minutes is pretty handy.
- Ie. Most of the year I run the Clear Driving lens as auxiliary high beams for back roads. Snow season I change them to the yellows (driving, flood, combo)

This is my video demonstrating the thaw within minutes.

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[?????]

LASFIT sent us this ditch light kit for the 2014-2022 4Runner. For the price this kit includes everything, to include the low profile hood brackets. I was really impressed by the quality of all components and for $189.99 for the sport kit and $309.99 for the HP (high performance) kit, it really is hard to find a better deal, in terms of both quality and performance, especially at this price point. Just wanted to drop the video link here. If you haven’t already please subscribe to the channel as many more install video’s, upgrades, and general content on our channels 4Runner will be coming soon. Let me know what you guys think? I am hoping to put these up against some other competitors out there for an unbiased comparison video.

My goal is to be honest in all my videos, and having run Baja Designs exclusively on my Raptor, I can honestly report that these are very good lights.

The best ditch light kit for 2014-2022 4runner? - YouTube

Of course a link to the kit, so you can check them out for yourself:

3" LED Pod Ditch Light Kit for 2014-2022 Toyota 4Runner | LASFIT

For that price it's hard to beat.

After running them for 20 minutes do they get pretty toasty?

 

[mrblah]

Interested in why that is?


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Probably due to a lot of light reflection back that causes eye fatigue and weird floating artifacts.

 

[FiveO4Runner]

For that price it's hard to beat.

After running them for 20 minutes do they get pretty toasty?

I think the sport is definitely a great value, especially because it includes the low pro brackets. It’s identical to the HP in construction, just less light output.

They do put off some heat, but the large fin design helps to dissipate it pretty good.

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[FiveO4Runner]

Probably due to a lot of light reflection back that causes eye fatigue and weird floating artifacts.

I want as much light as possible on the dark roads here in the Carolina’s, I don’t need an upgraded bumper that includes deer fur. But that’s a little different than twisty mountain roads with trees, rocks, etc, to throw that light back at me.


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[mrblah]

I want as much light as possible on the dark roads here in the Carolina’s, I don’t need an upgraded bumper that includes deer fur. But that’s a little different than twisty mountain roads with trees, rocks, etc, to throw that light back at me.


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Yeah I hear ya

 

[NB17Limited]

lol no. Baja SAE are probably brighter than most but how they make them SAE is odd with there lens covering and cuts down on the max visual output.

Having owned the Rigid SAE, BD SAE, DD Pro SAE, and DD Max SAE, the BD are probably the worst. Removed them mid trip and replaced with DD Pro SAE which proved to be much better in the snowstorms we went through.

BD SAEs are now up as ditch lights in my wife’s 4Runner since they are better flood lights than fog lights. Used Cali raised brackets

Will probably use Ronin brackets and DD SSC1s or BD S1s on my 4Runner for the lower profile look