oljedi11950
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Oh ya [MENTION=107883]moist_lapdog[/MENTION] did not mean you're dumb just great title ! Hell your IQ is higher than mine .
The Effects of Pot
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Yes, it's my Gorilla dildo:guitar3: The buttons are for the color smoke that comes out of my ass
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wake_rider
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I understand what you're saying here, and I somewhat agree with it. However, it does not take money to survive. I have family who can attest to such. They obviously live outside of the US, but they work on their land to self-sustain (own a very, very rural orchard in Canada that they bartered for 1o acres of land.... no joke), and what they cannot provide for self on their own land, they use their produce and skills to work out barter for other services.
NEVER have they ever taken a dollar from the Canadian government, nor have they received charity from anyone in the community. Their energy is produced through solar and wind, leaving them entirely off the grid for their electricity needs, they're on wells for water, and they use timber from their own land to heat their home. They sound poor, eh? Not at all. Their home is quite nice, and they own plenty of newer vehicles. Their most recent Subaru (2012 Outback) was traded for engineering services to an expanding Subaru dealership (uncle is a structural engineer, and also has a bachelors in architecture from the University of Tehran).
Certainly they have to use cash for some things, like petrol, but that comes from sales of their organic cherries and pears. They're an interesting group of people, I can say that with certainty.
However, a bit of money is easily acheived without being a ceo of a multi-million dollar company. I know plenty of quite successful people (by the currency-based American standard) who partake of cannibus. They are not potheads, but they are regular users, who do so responsibly.
Anything and everything can be problematic when abused or used in an unreasonable manner. Money, drugs, lobster, working out, religion, sex, work, vitamins, etc... Even the best of practices can become detrimental and dangerous whenever abused. However, pot, unlike alcohol, pills, or other hard drugs, is impossible to overdose with. You cannot die from using pot. Can you become useless? Of course you can. But that has more to do with the individual than the plant usage. You can also become inspiring and more productive with the use of pot. It's entirely dependent on the individual.
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With recent Pew research showing that support for legalization has now reached 57% I thought it might be a good time to revisit this thread.
26 States have now legalized medical marijuana and 8 states have now legalized recreational marijuana. Some cities, including Chicago and New York, now allow possession of small amounts of marijuana punishable by only a small fine and not criminal charges. 15 States have now amended their marijuana laws since 2013 raising the amount someone is allowed to possess before being charged criminally.
Since the election Texas, Virginia, Ohio and Tennessee have also undertaken efforts to change their laws.
26 States have now legalized medical marijuana and 8 states have now legalized recreational marijuana. Some cities, including Chicago and New York, now allow possession of small amounts of marijuana punishable by only a small fine and not criminal charges. 15 States have now amended their marijuana laws since 2013 raising the amount someone is allowed to possess before being charged criminally.
Since the election Texas, Virginia, Ohio and Tennessee have also undertaken efforts to change their laws.
ddnww
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update on my wife
before: was on several seizure medications, was having 1-3 seizures a week, was depressed, psychologically somewhat unstable, had crazy thoughts that she couldn't control, was somber with no personality.
now: has been solely on mjj, both cannabis oil and smoking mjj, has not had a single seizure in over 8 months, is back to being the vibrant social butterfly that she is, is #1 in her department at her job, is very happy and positive, is living a normal life.:hippie:
before: was on several seizure medications, was having 1-3 seizures a week, was depressed, psychologically somewhat unstable, had crazy thoughts that she couldn't control, was somber with no personality.
now: has been solely on mjj, both cannabis oil and smoking mjj, has not had a single seizure in over 8 months, is back to being the vibrant social butterfly that she is, is #1 in her department at her job, is very happy and positive, is living a normal life.:hippie:
RunninInGA
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Some municipalities in GA have reduced penalties to misdemeanor levels for smaller amounts.
wallytoo
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how about the provinces? what's the take up there?
RunninInGA
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Provinces? We have counties in Georgia. Assume you thought Canada??
wallytoo
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yes and no. i'm aware you are in georgia, but i was asking about canada. i wondered whether you were aware of provincial policy on it, and whether it made any difference to you.
i am not aware (of its policy), and it has minimal influence on how i live.
AntleredRuin
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1 point with 2 examples.
Marijuana is good for you (or at least is not bad)
My wife's grandpa (at 92 yo) smokes a joint a day due to chronic pain from multiple hip surgeries. Just one joint in the morning helps the pain 100x better than a bottle of Advil. This in turn gives him a better outlook on life and helps his mood, which is very important in an elderly person. They can't lose the 'will to live'.
My experience: a single toke helped my asthma far better than any emergency inhaler I've ever tried. Now, my asthma is well under control now from lung exercises, etc, but it used to be pretty bad. Asthma attack in the middle of the night? Light a joint. Calmed the asthma down and definitely calmed me down. No real 'need' for it now, though, so don't got none....
Marijuana is good for you (or at least is not bad)
My wife's grandpa (at 92 yo) smokes a joint a day due to chronic pain from multiple hip surgeries. Just one joint in the morning helps the pain 100x better than a bottle of Advil. This in turn gives him a better outlook on life and helps his mood, which is very important in an elderly person. They can't lose the 'will to live'.
My experience: a single toke helped my asthma far better than any emergency inhaler I've ever tried. Now, my asthma is well under control now from lung exercises, etc, but it used to be pretty bad. Asthma attack in the middle of the night? Light a joint. Calmed the asthma down and definitely calmed me down. No real 'need' for it now, though, so don't got none....
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RunninInGA
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Like you, Canada's policies on marijuana have no impact on my life so I do not care about them.:usa2:
Spokanesteve
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Just things I have seen from my job:
MJ is a VERY complex drug. It has both stimulant and depressant qualities. It also has euphoric and hallucinogenic qualities. It causes long term health issues, especially in younger people.
I have done many cases where people high on MJ committed numerous crimes. One was a DUI case where a young man high on MJ collided with a middle aged dentist with a family, killing the dentist and badly injuring his wife.
Another was a MJ dealer who got in an argument with a customer during a drug deal while UI and attacked him with a razor knife nearly slicing his face off (over 100 staples).
I also did a case with a group of deaf people who were hanging out and smoking pot, got in an argument and the belligerent "leader" of the group shot another guy.
It is a myth that people on pot don't commit violent crimes. It is a myth that pot is harmless. It is also a myth that usage doesn't go up in teenagers when it's legalized. Just look at all the issues CO and WA have had.
Pot today is much more potent than when the baby boomers were kids and it's a drug whose only purpose is to alter one's perceptions. There are medical prescriptions for people that need/want MJ for medical reasons (it's called Marinol).
Just my 2 cents but backed up by my actual life observations and experiences.
Cheers, Steve.
Just things I have seen from my job:
MJ is a VERY complex drug. It has both stimulant and depressant qualities. It also has euphoric and hallucinogenic qualities. It causes long term health issues, especially in younger people.
I have done many cases where people high on MJ committed numerous crimes. One was a DUI case where a young man high on MJ collided with a middle aged dentist with a family, killing the dentist and badly injuring his wife.
Another was a MJ dealer who got in an argument with a customer during a drug deal while UI and attacked him with a razor knife nearly slicing his face off (over 100 staples).
I also did a case with a group of deaf people who were hanging out and smoking pot, got in an argument and the belligerent "leader" of the group shot another guy.
It is a myth that people on pot don't commit violent crimes. It is a myth that pot is harmless. It is also a myth that usage doesn't go up in teenagers when it's legalized. Just look at all the issues CO and WA have had.
Pot today is much more potent than when the baby boomers were kids and it's a drug whose only purpose is to alter one's perceptions. There are medical prescriptions for people that need/want MJ for medical reasons (it's called Marinol).
Just my 2 cents but backed up by my actual life observations and experiences.
Cheers, Steve.
AntleredRuin
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I know I'm replying to a 2 year old post, but screw it, this thread came back to life anyways.
So maybe not money necessarily, but WORK.
WORK leads to a productive life (usually through the route of money). Your family may have no money to speak of, but they also could not have what they have if they did not WORK. Being constantly high or drunk does not lead to productivity.
The 'appeal' of MJ is that it does not affect as harshly, as quickly, or as long as alcohol. Not to say that someone on MJ CAN'T do a stupid thing, but statistically it IS safer.
I can do something stupid because i got 'high' on paint fumes and sugar cookies while painting my kitchen. I could go for a drive and get in an easily avoidable wreck because I was 'under the influence'. Statistically, though, how often does that happen, especially compared to alcohol related tragedies?
IMHO citing the problems CO has had leaves out some very significant details. There have been deaths but these have typically been from people coming to CO just to legally use. What's happened is a novice eats far more than they should and bad things happen.
Not unlike alcohol the user should use common sense when first trying it. The problems I'm familiar with are all related to edibles when someone eats a whole candy bar which is supposed to be 10 doses. Pretty much like a first time drinker who downs a bottle of whiskey. "You can't fix stupid" comes to mind.
I'm not unfamiliar with pot or alcohol use. As an old guy who has been smoking pot for 50 years I'm a big supporter. On the flip side I don't drink any alcohol since it has better control over me than I have over it.
It's easy to cite instances where someone gets crazy as Steve mentioned but I think anyone that compares the bad stuff users of alcohol do will show that they do much more damage to themselves and others.
Everything in moderation.
Not unlike alcohol the user should use common sense when first trying it. The problems I'm familiar with are all related to edibles when someone eats a whole candy bar which is supposed to be 10 doses. Pretty much like a first time drinker who downs a bottle of whiskey. "You can't fix stupid" comes to mind.
I'm not unfamiliar with pot or alcohol use. As an old guy who has been smoking pot for 50 years I'm a big supporter. On the flip side I don't drink any alcohol since it has better control over me than I have over it.
It's easy to cite instances where someone gets crazy as Steve mentioned but I think anyone that compares the bad stuff users of alcohol do will show that they do much more damage to themselves and others.
Everything in moderation.
These examples are pretty common and show that serious research is needed in the benefits of the medical marijuana. There's a lot to be learned and some people have discovered tremendous health benefits. Look up Charottes Web for the most impressive benefits for seizures. Just a bit of this strain changes the lives of families.
The biggest variables are the strain, admininstration and dosage which are currently hit or miss. As mentioned people react differently to the same strain not unlike opiates. I'm currently trying to find what works best for pain management. I haven't tried it for asthma but guess I should since I was up at 4 a.m. this morning trying to breathe.
The "image" of the pot smoker is one that irritates me. Almost all coverage here in CO is of college students or younger puffing away in clouds of smoke. That's simply not representative of the users. My age group (over 60) are a big segment of the market, not to get high (though that's not bad) but to deal with things like pain, loss of appetite, insomnia, anxiety, etc.
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It's funny, I don't even smoke the stuff, but have done so much research on it. I used to partake in my College days, but grew out of it.
Definitely strain and dosage dependent for different affects. And each person it can vary wildly.
For pain management you want something high in CBD (Pure Indica's) like white Rhino or Aurora, or you can get milder Indica dominant strains like any of the Kush varieties, or you can go straight CBD concentrates with smaller amounts of THC.
As to the "image of the pot smoker". That's just like everything else. Liberal media portraying all gun owners as red neck morons, Conservative media portraying all homosexuals as being super flamming in your face types.
It's just the way our propaganda machine- er,ah I mean media does things. Sensationalism and extremism. It sells.
But let's be honest here, the largest segment of MJ users by far is twenty something kids.
I am glad other states are legalizing and decriminalizing. That will take the strain off of CO. Too many idiots moving here just for weeds.
I wish the Feds would just decriminalize already. Disband the War on Drugs and let the states handle it how they see fit like it should be done.
Oh shucks, I'm getting super not safe-spacey...Time to bone out before I get 86'd yall...:ballchain:
Gun owning gays confuse the hell out of the right & left media.
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