Thermometer sensor

carina71

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Does anyone know where the sensor is for the outdoor air thermometer?

My thermometer seems to be off by more than 10 degrees and I want to make sure mine is not being insulated somehow (eg. covered with ice).
 
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I don't, but mine is always with in 2 degrees of all the remote thermometers I pass by. Sounds like your's may be covered somehow.
 
Is this a change since you added the radiator cover?

PS, mine's been 2 degrees warm from 118F down to -3F so it must be up front some where.
 
ToyotaDoodz said:
Is this a change since you added the radiator cover?

Yes it is, but I can't imagine I covered it up. It is also a change since it registered "--" several times during my "extreme cold" trip. So I am sort of wondering if I did not somehow reset/recalibrate it that day.

Thought I would start with the obvious first, and find the bloody thing.
 
Good point. I don't have my books at work.

I'm guessing it's going to be in a place where decreased air flow in the engine bay will make it read warmer from engine heat. I've noticed a "heat soak" effect after driving a while and parking. The engine heat elevates the reading while parked until I drive a 1/2 block or so. It sure appears that air flow either cools it off or moves the engine heat away from it.

All circumstantial, observed evidence over time on my part. Where's a "CSI" when you need one. :D
 
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The air temp sensor is behind the front grille and above the bumper.

It's pretty accurate when you're moving, but can be affected by engine heat or sun heating the vehicle.
 
MicaBlue03 said:
The air temp sensor is behind the front grille and above the bumper.

It's pretty accurate when you're moving, but can be affected by engine heat or sun heating the vehicle.

Okay, time to get my eyes checked. I still don't see it. Any chance you could post a pic for me?
 
carina71 said:
Okay, time to get my eyes checked. I still don't see it. Any chance you could post a pic for me?

You can clearly see it in the pic below. :D

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I'm looking for it now.
 
You thought I was kidding . . . :D:D

Look again. On my 03, it's on the vertical pillar to the left of the horns. Same wire bundle. Wiring diagam calls it the A/C Ambient Temperature Sensor

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Okay, got it!!!

Thanks guys! Probably, I disrupted the airflow through my radiator when I shielded it, and air is not circulating around the sensor as good as it used to.

Now, to come up with a solution. HMMM....
 
Thanks ToyotaDoodz. You beat me to it--I wasn't going to get the chance to look into this until this weekend. If I can find the time I'll look at the repair manual set and see if it reveals anything more.

Carina71, I don't know what other uses the vehicle has for the ambient air temp, but I would avoid anything that would tend to distort its readings if possible. It may be used for the engine computer/fuel injection operations, and a bad temperature reading could throw it off.

So if, for example, you want to block off part of the radiator in really cold temps, you could try to keep that area clear. Just a suggestion, though, as I don't drive in really cold temps anymore.
 
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MicaBlue03 said:
Thanks ToyotaDoodz. You beat me to it--I wasn't going to get the chance to look into this until this weekend. If I can find the time I'll look at the repair manual set and see if it reveals anything more.

I saw an opportunity to 1. come home for lunch, 2. play in the sleet and snow on the way, 3. give carina71 a hard time (and he took it very well.) :D

I'm looking at the manuals now but am having trouble getting into the "Toyota Speak" repair manual frame of mind of Friday afternoon. :cool: It's almost Corona time. :D:D
 
carina71 said:
Okay, got it!!!

Thanks guys! Probably, I disrupted the airflow through my radiator when I shielded it, and air is not circulating around the sensor as good as it used to.

Now, to come up with a solution. HMMM....

The material you used is like a reflective foil, right? Paint the front of the foil black in front of the sensor to absorb heat away from the sensor?
 
ToyotaDoodz said:
It's almost Corona time. :D:D

Carina says:

It's 9:54 AM (my time), must be Corona time!!

You guys are great!

Let me know if the sensor is incorporated to the fuel injection computer.
 
carina71 said:
Carina says:

It's 9:54 AM (my time), must be Corona time!!

You guys are great!

Let me know if the sensor is incorporated to the fuel injection computer.

Alaska time is a few hours behind me. :D

Woah! How am I going to tell if it's tied in to the FI system?
 
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ToyotaDoodz said:
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Woah! How am I going to tell if it's tied in to the FI system?

Well, actually I was hoping MicaBlue would let me know. Heck, I KNEW you wouldn't be smart enough to figure it out!:wtf:

Actually, I'd be a little surprised if the two were tied together. I expect the engine temperature sensor is the only one incorporated into the FI computer.

GEEEZZE. And you call yourself a computer expert.:D :D
 
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carina71 said:
Well, actually I was hoping MicaBlue would let me know. Heck, I KNEW you wouldn't be smart enough to figure it out!:wtf:

Whew! Thanks for letting the pressure off me. :D I'm going out to change my headlight fluid now. Later I'll let the summer air out of my tires and put in fresh winter air. :cool:

These repair manuals are good but they don't go into the programming real well.
 
ToyotaDoodz said:
Whew! Thanks for letting the pressure off me. :D I'm going out to change my headlight fluid now. Later I'll let the summer air out of my tires and put in fresh winter air. :cool:

Don't forget to check the loose nut between the steering wheel and driver's seat!
 

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