So was mine young man! :lmao:
This is why stock bumpers will NOT save your vehicle in a collision
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So was mine young man! :lmao:
Mechanic
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One of the ups of driving an older car. I've luckily never had a crash of any sort in my 4runner, but I was rear ended by a volkswagen at 20ish kilometers an hour when i was driving my 81 eagle. His car was totaled, leaking antifreeze, hood messed up, both fenders, he could only turn so many degrees to the right before hitting the fender with his tire. But I ended up with a slight scratch on my rubber trim on my bumper.
I also went headlong at 80 kilometers an hour into a bunch of quite large trees(6 inch diameter on average) and not only did i survive without a scratch, but the frame of the car was also fine. I'm planning on piecing it together this summer. Not sure if a new car or even truck could do that. These new vehicles are definetly safer, but the older cars are definitely tougher.
I also went headlong at 80 kilometers an hour into a bunch of quite large trees(6 inch diameter on average) and not only did i survive without a scratch, but the frame of the car was also fine. I'm planning on piecing it together this summer. Not sure if a new car or even truck could do that. These new vehicles are definetly safer, but the older cars are definitely tougher.
BrianSD_42
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@Techno: yeah but looking at this picture, that Toyota easily has $4000+ in damage whether or not there was any "frame damage"
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techno
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It was a little less than $4K, but I was doing 35 mph into the side of another vehicle that was turning in front of me, not 10 mph into some snow.
Several posts have focused on the frame damage and now think that the frames are not as strong as they thought they were. I'm just saying in my collision, which I believe was more severe, the frame did just fine.
Several posts have focused on the frame damage and now think that the frames are not as strong as they thought they were. I'm just saying in my collision, which I believe was more severe, the frame did just fine.
BrianSD_42
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just curious, when you say the frame did just fine ..
do you mean that you took it to a collision shop who went over the specs with precision tools and then determined that there was no frame damage?
Or do you mean that you fixed it and it drives fine?
Because in California, all shops are regulated and they will tell you if the vehicle has any frame damage. I would be surprised if they use a micrometer.
do you mean that you took it to a collision shop who went over the specs with precision tools and then determined that there was no frame damage?
Or do you mean that you fixed it and it drives fine?
Because in California, all shops are regulated and they will tell you if the vehicle has any frame damage. I would be surprised if they use a micrometer.
techno
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The repairs were done at a professional shop. The repairs to my truck did not included anything regarding the frame. There was no straightening, bending, twisting or pulling or whatever else they might do. If there was I'm certain it would have been included in the write up for the insurance company. Body shops aren't in the habit of throwing in free repairs especially when insurance is paying the bill.
What precision tools they may or may not have used, I do not know, I didn't watch them do the work. It certainly would not have been a micrometer that's for sure.
The replacement parts all went on without any alignment issues and it does indeed drive fine. I might be lucky, assembly tolerances might have been enough to overcome an issue, wheel alignment might have need a lot of adjustment too, I cannot say for certain, but I definitely did not have visible damaged as pictured by the op.
What precision tools they may or may not have used, I do not know, I didn't watch them do the work. It certainly would not have been a micrometer that's for sure.
The replacement parts all went on without any alignment issues and it does indeed drive fine. I might be lucky, assembly tolerances might have been enough to overcome an issue, wheel alignment might have need a lot of adjustment too, I cannot say for certain, but I definitely did not have visible damaged as pictured by the op.
How Does a Tube Bumper Attach?
Doesn't the tube bumper attach to the same frame area as the OEM bumper? If that's the case, wouldn't the frame sustain MORE damage, since the bumper itself would be stronger, and not absorb any of the impact?
I'm sure there's a reason why that's not the case, but I don't know what that reason is - can someone enlighten me?
Doesn't the tube bumper attach to the same frame area as the OEM bumper? If that's the case, wouldn't the frame sustain MORE damage, since the bumper itself would be stronger, and not absorb any of the impact?
I'm sure there's a reason why that's not the case, but I don't know what that reason is - can someone enlighten me?
Your thinking is correct. But... The way I see it, frame damage is frame damage so I'm going to make MY front end as strong as possible so that I can possibly minimize or negate any damage from a fender bender or wheeling (not a huge collision as nothing will survive that) so I've eliminated my front crumple zone.
When I had my Jeep, or my 1st gen 4runner, neither had any of the crumple zone stuff, they were just plain strong. Especially by the time I was done with them and I had no fear of driving them. So why would I do anything different with my 3rd gen?
Bottom line... We are driving rigs with a substantial amount of added weight. I'm going to try to reinforce my rig to match that or better and a 5mph bumper setup isn't going to cut it in my world.
I know there is one SUV that I am very impressed with...
An '05 Honda Pilot did this to my Nissan Frontier and had nothing more than a couple scratches on the bumper cover. There was such a small amount of damage their insurance company refused to settle. Said my damage was from another incident.
These people hit me so hard it herniated two discs in my back and did other damage to my neck.
An '05 Honda Pilot did this to my Nissan Frontier and had nothing more than a couple scratches on the bumper cover. There was such a small amount of damage their insurance company refused to settle. Said my damage was from another incident.
These people hit me so hard it herniated two discs in my back and did other damage to my neck.
ChildrenOfBodom
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That was you? Man, I remember that thread from a few years ago.
I used that picture to trick my friend that I crashed, then I told her I was kidding.
How did the fix come out?
Zactly what I'm talkin bout...
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