Time for another 4Runner?

DrDubzz

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T4R folks - I've been here, been there, been gone (from the forum), now I've come sneaking back in

I've been in Golf TDI since 2004 (a 2004 and a 2010), I love the Golf, fun to drive, great mileage, looks good, plenty of passenger room, nice ergos, and now paid off.

My wife has had sort of revolving cars, but we got a 2010 4Runner in late '10 as our first family vehicle, we have two kids, traded the 10 for a 14 4Runner because she wanted fancier creature comforts and we both were hesitant to go to a crossover (not for any overly logical reason, but we wanted one of our vehicles to be rugged for living in Alaska and doing outdoorsy stuff). Plus the 4Runner was a better value for money IMO than most of the similarly sized crossovers, especially if you consider resale.

Then we go on vacation and have a minivan rental, now she has seen the light and wants a minivan (I had been promoting this idea for a while). So 9 months after the new 4Runner we have a Sienna. The van is great, no regrets, it's here for the long haul (5-7 years minimum).

So --- now we have a Golf and a Sienna, I don't have a "truck" anymore, nothing rugged, nothing I can adventure in. But I have one fewer car payment than I've had for the past 5 years and my logical side says to enjoy that for at least a few months, right?

But I can't stop looking at 4Runners, I miss having one. I don't want a pick up, I've looked and looked, I can't get excited for one unless it's 55-60K, and that's not happening, I'm comfortable with ~$40K, max 42K. I'm putting a deposit on an inbound trail edition and a TRD Pro (hard to find and all). The trail will be here in a week or two, the Pro in around a month. So it's a refundable right of refusal that will allow me to see them in the flesh.

I've looked at the Grand Cherokee, it's nice, but it's small inside, but very nice and I could get one equipped the way I would want for less, around 37-39K (Limited, V6, 4x4), but I think I would be disappointed by the lack of cubic storage in the back, and the bullet proof reliability isn't there (though it's not bad).

I've looked at every dealer in town and I don't think there's another competitor (not interested in the ancient interior of the Xterra) I'm missing.

TLDR - do you have a good reason NOT to buy a 4Runner?
 
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Buy the 4Runner. The new Grand Cherokee is more plush but they're pieces of s**t. That 8 speed automatic in them is a nightmare. And that Pentastar V6 isn't proven yet.

If you want a rugged vehicle at this price point, 4Runner is your only real choice. And like you said, they hold their value extremely well.
 
Hold on a minute, YOU wanted a minivan?!


Jk



Back to the 4runner, I say go for the trail edition unless you never intend on modifying it, in that case get the TRDP. There isn't anything out there like the 4runner.
 
Go with the base Trail (unless you NEED the premium package for the ease of cleaning leather over cloth).

If you wanted the TRDP, you would be looking at a much higher price and IMHO it's not worth it for what you're getting.

For the price of a TRDP you could have a base Trail and add some much beefier suspension and tires. For example, I paid 39k out the door (with CA sales tax) and added ICON stage 2 suspension, Nitto tires, and the grey TRDP rims for the 43k+ out-the-door price of a TRDP. As has been mentioned before on this forum, the Trail edition is the way to go if you plan on doing 4-wheeling. With a few extra goodies, it can be far superior to a TRDP and much better value.

Hope this helps!
 
Is the only difference between the base and the Premium the cloth/leather? There are a few trail premiums on their way in. I would like leather seats. I'm thinking I can get a trail premium out the door for 39, maybe 38,500. No sales tax here
 
Is the only difference between the base and the Premium the cloth/leather? There are a few trail premiums on their way in. I would like leather seats. I'm thinking I can get a trail premium out the door for 39, maybe 38,500. No sales tax here

5th Gen Features/Models/Differences

but i will spare you the time, TEP has sunroof, softex leather, turn signals on the mirrors, and pretty much nothing else. If you don't believe me check out the brochure online and do the line by line comparison.

when i was looking to buy new (and every dang dealer in TX couldnt get me what i wanted) i wanted a trail edition (NOT premium) with KDSS and they couldn't get it for me. I would have gone TE, not TEP, because a sunroof is nice but not a necessity, the turn signal mirrors seemed more expensive to replace if one ever got ripped off while offroading or in an accident (and not to mention ever having to replace the turn signal bulb sounded like a PITA), and the softex leather ONLY comes in black, and in Houston, TX i didn't want black leather seats.

you do you haha. let us know how it goes. :playball:
 
Buy the 4Runner. The new Grand Cherokee is more plush but they're pieces of s**t. That 8 speed automatic in them is a nightmare. And that Pentastar V6 isn't proven yet.

If you want a rugged vehicle at this price point, 4Runner is your only real choice. And like you said, they hold their value extremely well.

While I agree that the 4runner generally has much better reliability ratings than the Grand Cherokee, I think claiming that the Jeep's V6 Pentastar is unproven is a bit unfair. That engine has been around for a while now and is well proven, in many different applications (Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, Wrangler). Most of the "issues" with Jeeps occur in the ancillary systems (transmissions, electronics, infotainment, ect.)

All that aside, the 4runner's engine is much more ideal for a trucking/offroad mentality (much better torque than the Jeep's).
 
While I agree that the 4runner generally has much better reliability ratings than the Grand Cherokee, I think claiming that the Jeep's V6 Pentastar is unproven is a bit unfair. That engine has been around for a while now and is well proven, in many different applications (Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, Wrangler). Most of the "issues" with Jeeps occur in the ancillary systems (transmissions, electronics, infotainment, ect.)



All that aside, the 4runner's engine is much more ideal for a trucking/offroad mentality (much better torque than the Jeep's).


How long has it been around? I thought it came out in 2012?
 
How long has it been around? I thought it came out in 2012?

It's been on the market roughly since 2011, and it's been in R&D for at least 1-2 years prior to that.

4 years is a long time in the auto world. Most engines are around for only 6-7 years before they are replaced by newer/updated versions.

On a side note, I like your profile picture. I am a GSD man myself, but I rescued my guy and I can appreciate rescue efforts for other breeds (especially the pitbull which gets a bad rep because of ignorant breeders/owners).
 
The Trail Premium comes standard with softex HEATED seats BTW, and I would think the TRDP does also. Not an option on the Trail. Also standard is the homelink receiver for garage doors and the entune nav on the Premium.

ALASKA + HEATED SEATS = :dancin:
 
I have a 2014 TE that is pretty heavily modified. I have been driving luxury mobiles for the past 10 plus years. When I bought mine, I thought i would really miss things like a sunroof, heated and leather seats, etc. I even looked into putting leather into mine once I got it. To be honest I don't. The TE is just not the type of vehicle for that. In fact, I find the cloth seats to be cooler and more comfortable than any of the leather seats I have had in the past. In fact, my wife has an Infiniti JX35 fully loaded. I think my seats are just as comfortable. Plus, leather seats just don't match the demeanor of my truck.

As for a Jeep, had one of those and at 70k miles it fell apart. Door locks, A/C, windows, etc... all broke down. Total POC.

IMHO.... 4Runner is the way to go.
 
Hi there! :bigok:

I can't quit 4Runners man, I tried, but I'll be back in one eventually :llama:

I have a deposit on the Inferno TRD Pro coming in in a couple weeks, gonna see if I love it.

If not, I'll probably wait a year and enjoy that my car is paid off :tea:
 

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