Timing Belt Question

Maxil

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I just got my 98' SR5 4x4 a few days ago. In the excitement, I am going over anything and everything I need to possibly replace in the next year or so. As it has 95k miles on it, I figured the timing belt is a bit overdue, but could do it sometime this year.

As I was reading through the manual and looking at scheduled maintenence, I saw the timing belt. Now I admit I have limited mechanical knowledge, but from what I read, it said replace it at 90k if you use it for low speed driving, like a patrol car or I think it mentioned mail handler. It doesn't really say to replace it under normal driving conditions, though I suppose it is certainly possible I am misreading it?

Your thoughts are certainly welcome,

Thanks,
Maxil
 
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My Wife's '97 has almost 150K on it, and as far as we know, it still has the original timing belt. I am sure it will "go" at some inappropriate time, but it will not kill the engine.
The 3.4 is a non-interference engine. In other words, when the timing belt goes, the valve rods do not detonate inside the engine, ruining it. Some engines do this, mostly Hondas and Nissans, and some Toyotas.
( someone please correct me on my description if I messed it up )

There are some people here who change their belt on time, others ( like me ) who wait. Especially because of the $600 + / - price tag. Mostly labor costs.

It is your call, good luck!
 
The recommendation is 90,000 miles for normal driving. I am not sure about low speed driving. I would also think age on a vehicle may be a contributing factor. A 98 is 12 years old.

"topdown4runnerit" is correct in that the engine is a non-interference engine and many members go over 90,000 miles. I have 126,000 miles on my 2001 and it is the same belt.
 
I have to suggest that you do a search on the 3rd gen sub forum for 'timing belt'. You will get more than enough information on how to change, when to change it, if to change it, what else should be replaced with it, and why. Not to mention price quotes from various regions and age and mileage that some have gone before changing. It helps to have your location in your info for questions like these. Like Peter78 mentioned, 12 years old for a belt is something to consider and if you're in a winter salt state then age is even more relevant.
 
I just completed the belt replacement and the pic's in the link above were very helpful.

A few notes I would add:

1) You will NOT get the crankshaft pulley bolt out of there without a tool to hold the pulley. My brother fabricated a tool similar to the above with his mig welder and it was a godsend. He made it just long enough that it would go against the frame rail when loosening the bolt and yes, I got it off there by myself.

But brother let me tell you, that bolt is IN THERE. I had to use a 3 ft cheater bar on my 1/2" drive socket wrench to get it loose. My trusty Snap-On impact wrench wouldn't break it. That's the first bolt in history I couldn't get loose with that impact gun.

2) Toyota recommends you replace the 17mm crankshaft pulley bolt. I did. It cost $7 give or take some quarters. It comes factory applied with thread lock - I added some additional red Thread Locker to be safe. The only torque wrench I had available would only go to 150 FT/LBS. I torqued it to 150 and then torqued it

3) I drained and pulled my radiator and shroud as well as draining the transmission when doing this (since I was going to replace the fluids anyway).
Having the radiator out of the way definitely helped. The 4 bolts that hold the fan to the fan bracket suck. There is no way to get a socket behind them so you are stuck using a box end. I put blue thread locker on them when reinstalling them. There is a torque spec on them but there is no way in hell you will get a regular torque wrench behind them. There is almost no clearance.

4) It took me three shots to get the timing marks lined up after letting the tensioner go. On the third try I forwarded the timing marks one notch on the cams and when the tensioner let go it lined everything up. Don't get frustrated here. And Mike is correct, NOT having to uninstall and reinstall the tensioner with the Snap-On tool would be a great time saver:thanks::thanks:. I probably wasted a good 2 hours total starting over, because once that tensioner lets go, you have to pull it back out and recompress it with a hydraulic press... Very time consuming.

5) Speaking of the tensioner, I have a small A frame hydraulic press that I bought from Harbor Freight. Nothing fancy but it does most of what I need including compressing the tensioner. I am pretty sure a good vise would work, but the tensioner does have a lot of torque.

6) If you are going to remove the grille, odds are you will break the retaining clips. It would take an act of congress and God himself guiding you to do so without breaking them - either taking the grille off OR putting it back on. I only broke 1 taking it off but broke 3 putting it back on. Order those too before you start and save yourself some frustration.

7) And last but not least, my belt @ 93K looked really good. In fact, comparing the two it was hard to tell the difference. No webbing, cracking or anything that made me think "Oh man, glad I replaced this one".

Since this a non-interference engine, I would probably run it to 110K miles the next time around. I'm not saying to blow away Toyota's recommendations, but the belt looked pretty good and there is probably a LOT of precaution built in there. If you are @ 90K miles I personally wouldn't sweat it going another 5 or 10K until you get around to doing this.

Hope this helps!
 
the water pump failed on mine its the factory one had 188k ... so i ordered a kit off ebay a good one for 300 dollars comes with everything short of the special tools you need ... i talked to my friend at the dealer and he said to tq the crank bolt to 190ft lbs and its fine to reuse the bolt just dab some red thread lock on it

heres a write up http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/timing_belt/
 
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Yeah - I just hit 150K and it's been in the back of my mind for a while now. My buddy bought a '01 Taco and got the belt done immediately at 90K (he probably didn't know what a timing belt was but got talked into it by a shop). Guess I'll finally have time now I'm done with all of my ball joints / body lift. I'm shooting for 6 beers and 5 hours total!
 
ya it seems like a pretty simple job just need that tool to hold the crank and the little Tensioner Compressor tool l also with 150k id go ahead and change the water pump
 
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