timing belt

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im about to do the timing belt now on my 4.7 v8 sport and i have a few questions:
toyota said theyll do it for me for $800, my mechanic said he''ll do it for $550 now this includes parts too.(honestly i dont know what parts he''ll use and how much i can trust him-i do know that his considered a good mechanic and have lots of knowledge but...)
olso i know a guy who works in a shop here for 6years (and another 12 in his country) he said if i give him the parts he''ll do it for $150 the only thing is i dont really know what he knows...(i cant even cummunicate with him so much cause of my bad spanich and his english ) the question:

1.who should i pick?
2.what should i make sure to replace?
3.if i bring the parts to the last option above is this includes all the the things that should be replaced?
4.there is any other kit u would recommend over the aisin?

thanks
 
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Make sure the timing belt, water pump, serpentine belt, pulleys, tensioner, and o rings get replaced. If your peace of mind is worth $250, then go with Toyota. They'll do it right. If something is off with the timing, it can literally cost you your engine. Both prices are good and $550 is outstanding (assuming it will be done right).
 
First off...I'd eliminate the guy who's doing it for $150. That's absurd.

Any decent mechanic can handle this job. This is NOT rocket science. It's a little complicated...but if you've been working on cars for more then a couple of years it's no big deal. If you don't trust him...then don't use him. Find a mechanic you trust...either local independent or the dealer. We have a couple of dealers near me I DON'T trust to even change my oil. I have a mechanic I use for jobs I don't have the equipment or time to do myself. I trust him implicitly for doing the job right and for the way I asked it to be done. I can even supply him the parts. He doesn't care.
 
I would do it for 150 for a buddy that's not absurd to help a friend or someone you know. certainly if they bring you the parts.

the 550 seems to be a swell deal with parts included; however, the question of it being done right is the matter at hand. Ask him if he's ever replace a timing belt on your model of engine before. You don't really want your truck to be a test run for him to find out how to do it on this engine. Even toyota tech's can make mistakes so just because the dealer does it doesn't mean it's going to be done right. You do get the warranty of the work done though so if something were to go wrong at least Toyota will "hopefully" cover you without having to fight with them. It wouldn't be the first time a dealer makes a mistake and attempts to cover up there part to try and push one past a customer. Plus you can't ensure that all the components get replaced by the dealer. Most accounts of dealer timing belt changes I've encountered the dealer only replaced the belt and no other components.

inquire with the dealer if the 800 includes both idler pulley's and the auto tensioner as well as the belt and water pump. ensure the same with the other mechanic your considering.

at least if your co-worker or Spanish friend does the job you can be there to watch, learn, and ensure the work is done properly.
 
So the guy who can do it for me for $150 he never did it before on this engain but even the other guy that want $550 more likely that he also didn't do it (there is not a lot of 4runneers around here espacially not the 4.7L (also can i trust him eith the parts that wont be junki?)its a question off trust=if it something that any mec can do or not....
 
Are the first two prices for just the timing belt or does that include the water pump, serp, tensioners etc? Seems low to include all of those. If it does and the $550 price uses Toyota OEM parts than I would probably go that route if he warranties his work. Otherwise I would stick with Toyota. I paid 1k for mine to be done by a well qualified non Toyota mechanic using strictly Toyota OEM parts. The Toyota dealer want nearly 1.2k
 
So the guy who can do it for me for $150 he never did it before on this engain but even the other guy that want $550 more likely that he also didn't do it (there is not a lot of 4runneers around here espacially not the 4.7L (also can i trust him eith the parts that wont be junki?)its a question off trust=if it something that any mec can do or not....

any mechanic can do it, its not rocket science. Toyota will use OEM parts, the mechanic may use OEM or he may also purchase a kit similar to this: Timing Belt Kit Toyota 4 Runner 2003 2004 V8 2UZFE 4.7L on eBay!

which is a dayco brand timing belt kit just as good of quality as OEM so not to much to worry with there. You'll notice the kit includes cam shaft seals and a front crank seal. These to not need installing unless your current seals are leaking.

the advantage to having done one before is knowing what order to take the parts off in and what order to re install the parts. As well as knowing the process to get the engine in the top dead center position for aligning the timing pulleys properly. This can all be figured out with research and trial and error such as a Haynes manual giving step by step guidance. I swapped mine on my own but it took some time making sure everything was right to a T.

you have to remove the radiator and all the front drive pulley's then you actually get to the timing belt assembly and water pump. then you have to put it all back together and make sure everything is torqued to spec.

with that said Toyota originally changed my belt at the 70,000 mark. I changed it again at 139,000 (after a mud bog competition filled my timing case with mud..) anyway when I did mine I noticed toyota had left out 3 bolts when re installing all the components. The particular bolts missing couldn't just be put back on without taking everything off again so they just got done and said eh.. it'll be fine without these.. I was luckily able to find the bolts needed to replace them at a local hardware store but like I said even going to toyota doesn't guarantee the process. Its the old saying if you want something done right do it yourself. unfortunately we don't all have the ability to do so. In that situation I personally like to leave it up to someone I can either watch what there doing and ensure the process or someone I trust extremely well to get the job done right.

I mean I've even had tire shops cross thread lug nuts something simple to avoid. how hard is it to start threads on a lug nut by hand before hitting it with an impact wrench!?! I went back to them after having to break the studs off to get the tires off to rotate them a couple thousand miles later and they wouldn't even give me the studs and replacement lug nuts that they f'd up. I was given a "prove we cross threaded them and we will replace them". No this doesn't have anything to do with a timing belt but it's hitting on the who can you trust issue.

If your friend is a good mechanic and has an act for doing things right and not half assing a job then I doubt he's going to mess anything up. If you research the process and the steps to take to do the job you can watch and ensure he's not making mistakes or doings something wrong. The 550 option is a good bargain if you trust and know the mechanic well or the shop itself is reputable. I would go to toyota last as you won't even see the mechanic that works on your truck.
 
I agree with everyone above but I would like to add that a lot of shops in my area barely works on Toyotas, let alone 4Runners. I'm sure this changes depending on location but when I was calling around about my leaking transfer case, one place never called me back, another place didn't believe it was leaking from where I told him it was, even though two places diagnosed it. He wanted me to bring it in to take a look because "I never worked on one of those and I would need to see it). The other shop told me flat out, take it to the dealer or a transmission shop that knows Toyotas. I thought a transfer case was a transfer case but whatever. My point is that yes, dealers can make mistakes too, but a trusted dealer will warranty their work and make sure it is done to your liking (in my experience with my dealer). Plus, the fact that these guys have probably changed numerous timing belts on the 4.7s makes me more comfortable taking it to them. I will add, my trusted local shop quoted me $1000 to do it while the dealer did it for $800. Had the dealer not been the cheapest quote I recieved, things may have been different.
 

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