Tire Decision

I put on 275/70/17 Cooper AT3s 2 days ago. I was torn between these and BFG AT KO but the fact the BFG are E and the Cooper are C or E, I went with the C tire and they were much cheaper, better warranty. They look great too!

If you do decide to go with BFG, find the best price in town, then take it to sears and they will beat it by 10%. I actually could have had BFG's for 50.00 more than the Cooper but like I said, I wanted the C rated tire, not the rough riding E.

I'm pretty sure the BFG's come in C as well. At least they do from Tire rack. Thanks for the tip about sears.
 
Load range E doesn't make it ride any different, I'd only choose C load range because it's cheaper...

What about P vs C? (I'm actually asking out of my likely lack of tire knowledge). I don't want a rougher ride at all, and the load capabilities if a P tire are more than I'll ever need.

If C isn't really any rougher than P, then I'd like the deeper tread that comes with the C as well.
 
What about P vs C? (I'm actually asking out of my likely lack of tire knowledge). I don't want a rougher ride at all, and the load capabilities if a P tire are more than I'll ever need.

If C isn't really any rougher than P, then I'd like the deeper tread that comes with the C as well.

I've never ran P tires on a truck before, I always used LT tires because I like the added security when towing.
 
What about P vs C? (I'm actually asking out of my likely lack of tire knowledge). I don't want a rougher ride at all, and the load capabilities if a P tire are more than I'll ever need.

If C isn't really any rougher than P, then I'd like the deeper tread that comes with the C as well.

I really noticed a difference going from P to D rated tires. This is the main reason I swapped the 5100/OMEs for the OW coilovers, the already stiff suspension combined with the stiffer ride from the tires was to much for me. It's much better with the new suspension, still not as smooth as with the P rated tires though.
 
If the stock Dunlop's are P rated then I ran those for about 3 days before getting BFG T/A KO's in load range E and the BFG's ride exponentially better than the stock radials. Other than a few German cars all I am used too is 3/4 and 1 ton pick ups so this 4Runner rides like a dream.
 
I am on my 2nd set of Bridgestone Dueller Revo's' now the Revo 2, and have been very happy with their performance. They have an aggressive enough tread pattern for me, are quiet on road, and have great life.60K miles on the first set. I just put the Goodyear Duratracs on my FJ as I wanted something a little more aggressive than the Revo's on it. Thus far I am happy with them too. They are quiet on road and have a nice aggressive look. I can't personally speak to the life on them but everything I read in my research before buying was positive. I don't think you will go wrong with either and I believe both are significantly quieter than the BFG's.
 
I love my Nitto Terragrapplers. The LT versions have a deeper tread, and look more aggressive.

I have almost 50k on mine, less than 50% worn!
 
What about P vs C? (I'm actually asking out of my likely lack of tire knowledge). I don't want a rougher ride at all, and the load capabilities if a P tire are more than I'll ever need.

In terms of actual use, the majority of applications are better served by a P type tire. Better, overall, on pavement, particularly wet pavement (non-hydroplane).

There can be reasons to run LTs, but tire design is all about tradeoffs, so any quality that is drawing someone to a particular tire likely has a tradeoff elsewhere in performance. Steel tread would never wear out but it might not deliver the best road performance.
 
and i dont believe that P tires are sufficient enough for any truck even a half ton or SUV like the 4Runner. take these numbers for your average P rated tire in the stock 4Runner size.


P265/70R17 -
Load Range - SL
Serv. desc. - 113T
Size - 7.0 - 9.0 8.00 10.7 31.7
Max load - 2,535 @ 44 psi

now you arent going to run your tires at max load PSI unless you want the center of your tires to wear out prematurely. so say you run them at 35psi your max load is around 1875# per tire. now the GVWR for a 4Runner is what 6,000# give or take? idk what the rear axle is rated for off the top of my head but i will assume its around the same as a GM 10 bolt which is 4,000# so the max load of your tires wouldnt even reach the weight carrying capacity of the trucks axles.
 
and i dont believe that P tires are sufficient enough for any truck even a half ton or SUV like the 4Runner. take these numbers for your average P rated tire in the stock 4Runner size.


P265/70R17 -
Load Range - SL
Serv. desc. - 113T
Size - 7.0 - 9.0 8.00 10.7 31.7
Max load - 2,535 @ 44 psi

now you arent going to run your tires at max load PSI unless you want the center of your tires to wear out prematurely. so say you run them at 35psi your max load is around 1875# per tire. now the GVWR for a 4Runner is what 6,000# give or take? idk what the rear axle is rated for off the top of my head but i will assume its around the same as a GM 10 bolt which is 4,000# so the max load of your tires wouldnt even reach the weight carrying capacity of the trucks axles.

If you don't think 1875lbs is sufficient, you might be making a case for P.

Load capacity 265/70/17 at 35psi.

LT--1890lbs
P----2304lbs
 
rebel,

I assume from this conversation that your BFG's are E rated? If so, do you feel that they ride rough?
 
If you don't think 1875lbs is sufficient, you might be making a case for P.

Load capacity 265/70/17 at 35psi.

LT--1890lbs
P----2304lbs

not really, LT tires have a higher max PSI a max load. running an LT tire at 44psi would result in a different tread pattern than a P tire at the same psi.

yes i run E load range on my BFG's and i dont think they ride rough. but like i said other than a few German cars all my vehicles have been 3/4 ton and 1 ton pick up trucks. so i tend to think my 4Runner drives and rides like a car.
 
1875 x 4 = 7,500

2535 x 4 = 10,140 (can easily air up to max psi if you rear axle is over when hauling)

And I'm pretty sure many F150's and Silverado's come stock with P tires. Even with their towing and load capacities stock (higher than t4r's).

Just saying.
 
P rating is more than enough for most here unless you plan to haul bricks inside the back of your 4Runner. I wouldn't pay more for LT (Light Truck) tire, also @ 51 lbs it is nearly 10 lbs heavier than Nitto's TG P-rated. Same is true for any brand LT tire.
 
If you wheel, LTs have stronger sidewalls and tread.
If you tow, LTs have stiffer sidewalls and will control rear/trailer sway.
If you want best MPG and smoothest ride, P series are best.
 
and i dont believe that P tires are sufficient enough for any truck even a half ton or SUV like the 4Runner. take these numbers for your average P rated tire in the stock 4Runner size.


P265/70R17 -
Load Range - SL
Serv. desc. - 113T
Size - 7.0 - 9.0 8.00 10.7 31.7
Max load - 2,535 @ 44 psi

now you arent going to run your tires at max load PSI unless you want the center of your tires to wear out prematurely. so say you run them at 35psi your max load is around 1875# per tire. now the GVWR for a 4Runner is what 6,000# give or take? idk what the rear axle is rated for off the top of my head but i will assume its around the same as a GM 10 bolt which is 4,000# so the max load of your tires wouldnt even reach the weight carrying capacity of the trucks axles.

Where you getting your figures from. The 4runner weighs 4200lbs....NOT 6000lbs.

So at the figure you gave of 1875 per tire....that's MORE then enough for the weight of the 4runner.
 

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