Tire question

Brique

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Ok, so it's getting on time to replace my stock street tires, and I'm kinda glad because i want all-terrains. I'm pretty sure i want bfg at k/o in the 265/75R16 size. Last time I was at discount tire the dude was pretty adamant that my stock wheels aren't wide enough to handle them. Now I'm fairly certain he's wrong, because i see people on here running this size tire on stock rims all the time. That said, discount tire's website says the same thing, as does bfgs website.

I'm not crazy, right? 265/75/R16 will run on stock rims no problem, right?

For specifics I have a 2001 sr5 sport ed., which runs the limited 16" "coke bottle" wheels (5 spoke).

Here's a picture from someone else's truck with the same wheels:

http://i36.tinypic.com/23w870w.jpg

I'm on my phone, or I'd post a picture of mine. Also, sorry if the link doesn't work right.
 
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I am running 265/75/16 on my 2001. I also had them before the lift. I have had zero problems. They did rub at full turn both sides before the lift.
 
Mine have the 265/75/R16 on the stock split 3 spoke rims and I haven't had any problems with them at all.
 
Ok, so it's getting on time to replace my stock street tires, and I'm kinda glad because i want all-terrains. I'm pretty sure i want bfg at k/o in the 265/75R16 size. Last time I was at discount tire the dude was pretty adamant that my stock wheels aren't wide enough to handle them. Now I'm fairly certain he's wrong, because i see people on here running this size tire on stock rims all the time. That said, discount tire's website says the same thing, as does bfgs website.

I'm not crazy, right? 265/75/R16 will run on stock rims no problem, right?

For specifics I have a 2001 sr5 sport ed., which runs the limited 16" "coke bottle" wheels (5 spoke).

Here's a picture from someone else's truck with the same wheels:

http://i36.tinypic.com/23w870w.jpg

I'm on my phone, or I'd post a picture of mine. Also, sorry if the link doesn't work right.

I believe the are 7" wheels (please correct me if I am wrong) which means according to Toyo you can run a a 265. Link:
Open Country A/T II | Toyo Tires

Other manufacturers should be similar I just used Toyo because I am familiar with their website. Most likely the salesperson was looking to sell some wheels to. But do your research and know your stuff when you are ready to buy.
 
But do your research and know your stuff when you are ready to buy.

Yeah, that's what I'm working on now. I've been reading and googling and such, but I can't think of a definitive way to know for sure. Any suggestions in that area are welcome.
 
Yeah, that's what I'm working on now. I've been reading and googling and such, but I can't think of a definitive way to know for sure. Any suggestions in that area are welcome.

I just told you. Go see how wide your rims are, then look if it fits within manufacturer specs of the size/model of tire you want to run.
 
I'm running Cooper AT3s in 265/75-16 on my 2002 Limited with the same wheels. I have 2-3" lift, with no problems. They came from the factory with 265 width tires!!! (the /75 is the height multiplier - they are about 1" taller than stock tires)

BTW, Overland Journal Summer 2014 has an AT tire test - 7 tires. The lead evaluator was a professional test driver who worked for Toyota for a decade on model development, primarily testing tires for 4WD vehicles (Joe Bacal). (In other words, it was as close to a scientific test as you're likely to find in a magazine.) They tested handling limits, braking distance, skip pad (G force), dry slalom, wet cornering, highway ride, dirt oval, ruts, and rock climb (38 degree granite slab).

Tires tested: BFG All-Terrain T/A KO, Dick Cepek Fun Country, Falken Wild Peak A/T, General Grabber AT2, Goodyear Wrangler All-Terrain Adventure Kevlar, Toyo Open Country A/T II, and Cooper Discoverer AT3. Test vehicles were 2 Jeep Wrangler 4-door JKs with factory lockers.

On one test - a 1 1/2 mile dirt oval, they did 'managed controlled 4 wheel drifts' at 75 MPH with the Cooper AT3 (that was 15% faster than the next closest). On the 90 degree wet corner test the AT3 did it at 55 MPH (and quit pushing it because of safety concerns). The next closest was the Goodyear at 46 MPH. The BFG did it at 32 MPH! The Cooper, Falken, and Toyo were the only tires to complete the rock climb.

Of the BFG they said 'technology has advanced well beyond its current design. As a result, these classic standbys are fading into the past.' (they were also the most expensive tire they tested - $45 each more than the Coopers).

Their conclusion: 'The Cooper AT3 was the overwhelming winner and a genuine value.' They gave it the editor's choice and value award (2 awards, almost never given to the same product). Scott Brady (the publisher) says they are the best AT tire he has ever run in snow. Another 4WD magazine reviewed them last fall and said they surprised them with how well they did in mud. Here's another review: Cooper Discoverer A/T3 | Expedition Portal

Mine have 42k+ miles on them, have almost 1/4" of tread left, with probably 400 miles of forest service road travel with no flats (and lots of sharp limestone around here). I plan to buy another set this fall when these are finally worn out. (If you can't tell, I'm sold on them. And I got mine [C-load rating] for $700 out the door - mounted, taxes and all - that is a bargain. I could have gotten the 'SUV' rated ones for just over $600.)
 
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[MENTION=59733]98OzarksRunner[/MENTION] Ok, so I'm reading up on the coopers and I'm getting interested. In this size I'm seeing load range e and c as my options. What are you running and what do you recommend? Some say c for better ride and better air-down traction, some say e for a stronger sidewall (to resist damage). I get that c will have a better ride, but I also don't want to puncture or tear my sidewall off-road. Thoughts?
 
Ah, I just read again where you say you got Cs. Sorry, missed that before. So, what's the difference between the Cs and the suv rated?
 
Ah, I just read again where you say you got Cs. Sorry, missed that before. So, what's the difference between the Cs and the suv rated?

The 'SUV' are 'P' rated (passenger tires I think). The C is an LT (light truck) rated tire. E range is heavier. For heavy off-roading (rock crawling) I might go to E range, but for what I do the C rated has been plenty, and probably rides a little better on the highway. I'd go with at least the C rating, if you plan to off-road at all. Also the C rated tire had about 1/8" more tread than the P/SUV tires.
 
Yeah, my "build" is going to be a dd/off-road hybrid, and as far as extremity of my off-road, it'll be about what you'd expect to take 265/75/16 at tires on. difficulty level 5/10 kinda stuff.

So, definitely not the Ps, probably the Cs is what I'm hearing.
 
Yeah, my "build" is going to be a dd/off-road hybrid, and as far as extremity of my off-road, it'll be about what you'd expect to take 265/75/16 at tires on. difficulty level 5/10 kinda stuff.

So, definitely not the Ps, probably the Cs is what I'm hearing.

Exactly. The E's aren't a bad choice but might come with some unwanted side affects. P's should be out of mind entirely.
 
Their conclusion: 'The Cooper AT3 was the overwhelming winner and a genuine value.' They gave it the editor's choice and value award (2 awards, almost never given to the same product). Scott Brady (the publisher) says they are the best AT tire he has ever run in snow. Another 4WD magazine reviewed them last fall and said they surprised them with how well they did in mud. Here's another review: Cooper Discoverer A/T3 | Expedition Portal

[MENTION=59733]98OzarksRunner[/MENTION] - Thanks for the wealth of info. I got my Cooper AT3's several weeks ago and am happy with them so far, especially considering the price. You dropped an h-bomb of positivites there.

OP, I went with the C tires as well. They are heavier duty than the P tires but not near as heavy as the E. If you tow anything at all they are better rated for the load. The ride is definitely not rough at all on the street. They do make a bit more noise than my old P Yokohama's did but it is not a problem or annoyance and I'm fairly easily annoyed by random noises.

I've been watching my mileage and it looks like I've lost about 1mpg since going to these tires. Note that my old ones were 31's (265/70/16) and these new ones are 32's (265/75/16). My wheels are 16x8, not 16x7, but the 265/75/16 is fine for your 16x7's.

I posted a few pics in the build thread I just started:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/170137-sggazs-build-rechristening-98-sr5.html
 
I have 265/70/16 in the Cooper at3. I'm anxious to go up to 265/75 but the damn things won't wear out even by 50k. Definitely going with the at3 again. They've done everything that I have asked of them.

Just sayin
 
Hey guys, I went with the at3s load range C. What pressure are you running?

Also, the coke bottles are 16x8", which is perfect for this size tire.
 

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