I currently have the Stock Duelers and a set of TRD Pro wheels arriving soon... I plan to do a 6112/5160 in the next couple months with a pretty mild lift (1.5 in) but the largest tire I’d want to run is probably 255/75-17. So the question is, should I just switch the Duelers over to the new wheels and run them down or switch over to K02s or Duratracs in the aforementioned size today? I have a feeling I’m not going to be happy with the Duelers and I can sell the wheel/tire combo for more $$ today (less than 300 mi on them)... any suggestions from someone who’s been in this spot?
To keep the Duelers or not?
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TRDORP4Runner
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I'm doing pretty much the same thing, duelers/TRD OR wheels are getting removed this weekend in place of 255/75/17 Duratracs and TRD Pro wheels.
I will sell the duelers and TRD OR wheels after the switch.
I will sell the duelers and TRD OR wheels after the switch.
I’m leaning that way.
Chris In Milwaukee
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What do you do with your vehicle that renders the Dunlops useless? I can understand that they're probably not ideal in Central Florida offroad muck and sand. On pavement and in today's snotty snowfall up here on the frozen tundra, I'd say they performed pretty admirably for stockers. Certainly not an aggressive tire by any means, that's for sure.
MooseT4R
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Same. On a vehicle literally named "Off Road" no less. My sister's Toyota van had better stock tires, Toyota should be ashamed.
We pulled ours off and got I think $300-325 for the 4 from some guy who was putting them on his beater Tahoe or something.
Toyota just could have chosen nearly any P-rated AT tire and it been a better fit. Want to put AT20s (an all-season not AT tire) on a Rav4, go for it, but a TRD 4Runner? Even just driving gravel roads with the AT20s gave me pause.
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Chris In Milwaukee
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I appreciate you sharing your experiences. I shall remain vigilant!
ravens_wood
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are those modifications for the aesthetic? any significant off-road excursions in the plans?
need vs. want
the_fornicator
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I sold my duellers with like 900kms on them for $450 which supposedly last around 40-50K kms. But that's 40-50K kms on a boring-looking, sub-par functioning, and just-average-in-every-sense tire.
Then I bought some 285 duratracs for $1200 which look way cooler, are snow rated, and supposedly last around 80-100K kms. I have dedicated winter tires, but the snow rating on the duratrac makes it nice so that I can drag my feet come fall and spring when it comes time to swap the winters on or off. I had dedicated summer tires on previous vehicles and I hated the frantic, last-second swap whenever the snow hit.
Then I bought some 285 duratracs for $1200 which look way cooler, are snow rated, and supposedly last around 80-100K kms. I have dedicated winter tires, but the snow rating on the duratrac makes it nice so that I can drag my feet come fall and spring when it comes time to swap the winters on or off. I had dedicated summer tires on previous vehicles and I hated the frantic, last-second swap whenever the snow hit.
Search forum for threads re falken wildpeak at3w and general grabber atx. Both come in p rated / standard load which should be about 10lbs lighter and help with acceleration. Both are rated good for snow. Both well liked and both probably AT LEAST 50 percent cheaper than the good year and bfg's.
I'm sure you'd be happier with anything better than the stock tires. And if you care enough about how things look to get custom rims then the look of an aggressive all terrain is probably worth it alone. I'm just a 4runner n00b tho!
I'm sure you'd be happier with anything better than the stock tires. And if you care enough about how things look to get custom rims then the look of an aggressive all terrain is probably worth it alone. I'm just a 4runner n00b tho!
mteolus
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My Dueler's wore out at 30k anyway, looking back I would have gotten rid of them immediately. One tire I had to replace at 20k because the tire was defective and it cost me about $95 because Toyota wouldn't replace it even if it was defective.
P-rated are lighter in weight, but won't be as durable off-road. But if you don't do much off-road stuff P-rated should be fine.
P-rated are lighter in weight, but won't be as durable off-road. But if you don't do much off-road stuff P-rated should be fine.
Ripper238
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Stock Duelers are pretty terrible, but they help with MPG and noise, so they seem to be okay for highway commutes for now.
But I purchased a set of the TRD Pro wheels in Matte Gray and put the Dulers on them and will be putting Duratracs on the OEM rims for the winter and off road initially.
Since ill have 2 sets of rims ill have a set for Highway/winter and a set for off road. Eventually the Gray TRD rims will have the Duratracs and the OEM rims will have KO2's.
But I purchased a set of the TRD Pro wheels in Matte Gray and put the Dulers on them and will be putting Duratracs on the OEM rims for the winter and off road initially.
Since ill have 2 sets of rims ill have a set for Highway/winter and a set for off road. Eventually the Gray TRD rims will have the Duratracs and the OEM rims will have KO2's.
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I do a fair bit of beach driving in some fairly remote locations.
Nuke
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My 3rd or 4th Gen and now my 5th gen came stock with the Dunlop AT20s. I frequently drove in snow with the 3rd and 4th gen and the AT20s were pitiful. I didn't care for them in the rain, either. I've been running Michelin LTX M/S, Firestone Destination LE and LE2s and a General (can't recall the model) and found them hands above the AT20s in overall performance.
Check the AT20s rating on Tirerack. They're at the bottom of the class.
They aren’t bad tires by any means. Mine are wearing evenly, balance without issue, and handle just fine on the road/ mild off road excursions. Would I rather have some knobby aggressive tires? You bet, but these will do just fine for the first 40,000 miles of my vehicles life.
