Toyota Diesels for North America Petition!!

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Sign the Diesel Toyota's For North America Petition

I was petition number 2331 so its up there!!

Go petition, who knows we might get lucky!!

 

[CJ3Flyr]

2332:banana:

 

[JohnsD90]

I'm signing too, you forgot the part about Manual trannsmissions in SUV's again too. 2335

 

[JBgotM]

I am all for having the option to purchase with a diesel engine, but the petition referring to gasoline engines as "inferior" as a blanket statement is pretty stupid and reduces the credibility of the petition.

 

[Jeff Kleb]

Diesels for North America


I remember hearing rumors that the 2010 Tundra was gong to be available with a six-cylinder Caterpillar turbodiesel and that it would be a 3/4 ton model.

I guess that went "toes up" when Caterpillar quit building engines for on-road use (because of emission issues). Oh well.
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Toyota offered diesels as an option for the 4Runner (at least the past generation), but not in the US market. I don't know whether it is because of our tougher emissions rules or because most Americans still have a 1980s perception of diesel engines being noisy, soot-belching, slow, smelly and hard to start.

Mercedes had gotten away from selling diesels in the USA, but recently brought them back with the awesome Bluetec. VW has the TDI available in several models and BMW has an awesome inline-6 turbodiesel for the 3-Series. Oil burners can indeed be 'clean' and still provide great fuel mileage!

I drive big rigs and other heavy-duty trucks for a living, so I am a huge fan of the abundant, low-RPM torque that modern diesels provide. Don't know whether or not I would spend the extra $$$ for a diesel option in my personal vehicle; but might consider it for a truck or SUV. Diesels get more miles per gallon, but that advantage is somewhat neutralized by the extra 25 to 30 cents per gallon at the pump. Doh!
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[charlier180]

Toyota offered diesels as an option for the 4Runner (at least the past generation), but not in the US market. I don't know whether it is because of our tougher emissions rules or because most Americans still have a 1980s perception of diesel engines being noisy, soot-belching, slow, smelly and hard to start.

VW has the TDI available in several models and BMW has an awesome inline-6 turbodiesel for the 3-Series. Oil burners can indeed be 'clean' and still provide great fuel mileage!

A friend of mine took me for a ride in his wife's VW Jetta TDI Sport Wagon.
That was one SMOOTH & QUIET Diesel. It has the 6 speed manual transmission and it can haul AZZ when one gets on it. Needless to say the little lady was not with us during our drive. :reddance:

It only has about 4K on it and it is not broken in yet so the MPG is not as high as it could be (low-mid 40s right now).

If a diesel engine in the 4Runner means a return to the 7K towing capacity sign me up.
If not, Toyota can keep the current castrated 4Runner model since it cannot fill my needs even with a diesel engine.

 

[Duhockey]

I'm signing too, you forgot the part about Manual trannsmissions in SUV's again too. 2335

Link??

 

[JohnsD90]

A friend of mine took me for a ride in his wife's VW Jetta TDI Sport Wagon.
That was one SMOOTH & QUIET Diesel. It has the 6 speed manual transmission and it can haul AZZ when one gets on it. Needless to say the little lady was not with us during our drive. :reddance:

It only has about 4K on it and it is not broken in yet so the MPG is not as high as it could be (low-mid 40s right now).

If a diesel engine in the 4Runner means a return to the 7K towing capacity sign me up.
If not, Toyota can keep the current castrated 4Runner model since it cannot fill my needs even with a diesel engine.

VW is the only one that understands america likes diesel, hence they have been cramming the market for the past 20 years, government and oil companies dont want them in cause they all lose money because the more efficent it is the less fuel it uses, the less fuel it uses they less amount of money the oil compaines get and therefore less taxt the government can collect on, car companies also dont want them here, because a diesel is more reliable, more reliable= a longer lasting car, which means less cars being sold because people will keep there current ones longer. It boils down to money. Rant over, i just hate that i cant get my favorite vehicles in diesel when they are offered in diesel elsewhere.

 

[ShockTherapy]

2836.

 

[man03999]

2391

 

[DieselPower]

2416, but hardly see any light at the end of the tunnel

 

[JohnsD90]

I drive big rigs and other heavy-duty trucks for a living, so I am a huge fan of the abundant, low-RPM torque that modern diesels provide. Don't know whether or not I would spend the extra $$$ for a diesel option in my personal vehicle; but might consider it for a truck or SUV. Diesels get more miles per gallon, but that advantage is somewhat neutralized by the extra 25 to 30 cents per gallon at the pump. Doh!
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When it is 49mpg as opposed to 27mpg then the $.30 a gallon is worth it, and the diesel being higher than gas is complete bullshit, gasoline is a lot more refined than diesel, it is actually cheaper to produce than gas, but the demand for diesel in inelastic in this country (Most every Commercial truck) so they price where they make the most money.

 

[JohnsD90]

2416, but hardly see any light at the end of the tunnel

That light is VW, and slowly and steadily they are working there asses off to get diesel back here.