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The “night shade” edition. Haha.

Everyone is doing this now and it’s so lame. They’re just saving you the plastidip work at a premium.


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That rack gives the 4runner the I'm going bald but I'm in denial about it so I'll grow the back out really long and hope no one will notice look, that I know we all love.

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Sigh - no new colors

Ditto. The entire Toyota lineup gets a plethora of color options except the 4R. Same colors since 2010 with the exception of the blue change in 2014 and PROs. Anyone want to guess why the Tacoma and Tundra owners still get to have the Quicksand and Cement as standard colors but not the 4R?!

:dammit:
 
Anyone want to guess why the Tacoma and Tundra owners still get to have the Quicksand and Cement as standard colors but not the 4R?!

:dammit:

Yes, for the same reason why they don't offer the Pro with KDSS: it's made in Japan. Bear with me.

It's made in Japan at the Tahara plant, which is one of the most automated factories in the world. The 4Runner is likely its most mature assembly line there, since the truck has been around since 2009. It's also the one with the smallest throughput (units sold). Changes in integration (yes, including adding more paint colors) disrupt the 4Runner's tightly run assembly and takt times, on an export-only vehicle that is already at the mercy of import tariffs. Just adding paint colors is probably enough to shave profit margin down to unbearable levels. The Pro is the exception, and they charge dearly for the new changes (up again by $3500 this year). By contrast, pickup production is in San Antonio with 2 shifts and in the case of the Tacoma, more demand than supply. They have no tariffs and by extension, a more comfortable profit margin.

For the same reason, they do not install Pro suspension or any other trim pieces on the 4Runner in Japan- it would disrupt a mature and optimized production process. All Pro trucks (4R, Tundra, Tacoma) start with the Off Road model and then are changed by a TRD task team AFTER the assembly is complete. In the 4Runner's case, after it arrives port-side in the US. This is justifiable for a small volume of units that command a vastly higher price, such as the Pro.

When Toyota reviewed the man-hours required for the Pro upgrade task team, they still have to make sure there is a comfortable margin. It is my assertion that the complete disassembly of the KDSS end links and extra cylinder manipulation would kill this margin. Thus, no KDSS availability on the Pro.
 
Does the Limited Nightshade have any chrome? I can't seem to find any good pics.

The only thing I dislike about my Limited, Chrome.
 
Ditto. The entire Toyota lineup gets a plethora of color options except the 4R. Same colors since 2010 with the exception of the blue change in 2014 and PROs. Anyone want to guess why the Tacoma and Tundra owners still get to have the Quicksand and Cement as standard colors but not the 4R?!

:dammit:
red change also: salsa red was dropped and replaced with barcelona (more of a "red") red.

that recycled FJ roof rack is an abomination.
 
Yes, for the same reason why they don't offer the Pro with KDSS: it's made in Japan. Bear with me.

It's made in Japan at the Tahara plant, which is one of the most automated factories in the world. The 4Runner is likely its most mature assembly line there, since the truck has been around since 2009. It's also the one with the smallest throughput (units sold). Changes in integration (yes, including adding more paint colors) disrupt the 4Runner's tightly run assembly and takt times, on an export-only vehicle that is already at the mercy of import tariffs. Just adding paint colors is probably enough to shave profit margin down to unbearable levels. The Pro is the exception, and they charge dearly for the new changes (up again by $3500 this year). By contrast, pickup production is in San Antonio with 2 shifts and in the case of the Tacoma, more demand than supply. They have no tariffs and by extension, a more comfortable profit margin.

For the same reason, they do not install Pro suspension or any other trim pieces on the 4Runner in Japan- it would disrupt a mature and optimized production process. All Pro trucks (4R, Tundra, Tacoma) start with the Off Road model and then are changed by a TRD task team AFTER the assembly is complete. In the 4Runner's case, after it arrives port-side in the US. This is justifiable for a small volume of units that command a vastly higher price, such as the Pro.

When Toyota reviewed the man-hours required for the Pro upgrade task team, they still have to make sure there is a comfortable margin. It is my assertion that the complete disassembly of the KDSS end links and extra cylinder manipulation would kill this margin. Thus, no KDSS availability on the Pro.
Not every day that someone uses ‘takt,’ and properly at that, props.
 
I’m hoping their “build” site is not fully operational. It shows that I can’t get KDSS on an Off Road...only on an ORPremium, and then only with a moonroof!
 
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While I agree the blackout craze is getting long in the tooth, I do like the nightshade a lot better than all the chrome. Still, I just wish they'd put the heated/ventilated seats in the OR/ORP trim and I'd be the first in line to throw money at them.
 
It's made in Japan at the Tahara plant, which is one of the most automated factories in the world. The 4Runner is likely its most mature assembly line there, since the truck has been around since 2009. It's also the one with the smallest throughput (units sold). Changes in integration (yes, including adding more paint colors) disrupt the 4Runner's tightly run assembly and takt times, on an export-only vehicle that is already at the mercy of import tariffs. Just adding paint colors is probably enough to shave profit margin down to unbearable levels. The Pro is the exception, and they charge dearly for the new changes (up again by $3500 this year). By contrast, pickup production is in San Antonio with 2 shifts and in the case of the Tacoma, more demand than supply. They have no tariffs and by extension, a more comfortable profit margin.
Does the 'chicken tax' apply to SUVs? I didn't think it did.

If that's the case, Toyota is only paying 2.5% tariff. The 4Runner is running in one the most automated factories and most mature assembly lines they have. It's among the oldest vehicles without a major model change and is running one of the oldest transmission and engine models. The 4Runner's BOF competitors have pretty much all died off.

I would imagine the 4Runner is one of the most profitable vehicle Toyota is producing. I doubt adding a new paint color (also a pretty automated process) does much to the bottom line.
 

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