Toyota OEM Flywheel, Definitely worth the investment!

[BankRunner]

So my 2000 has 217,000 miles on it and according to the PO, the original clutch. I bought it with about 190k 3 years ago and the clutch has been on my mind since. I bought from a used dealer who got it through auction after a dealer took it on trade from the original owner. I tracked the PO down to ask about service history and he told me he didn't think the clutch had ever been replaced, which kept it on my mind, but it wasn't slipping or making noise so I let it ride for a while.

Well I've gotten a lift and ordered bumpers and have larger tires picked out but haven't installed any of them yet. Knowing all these items would put additional stress on the drivetrain, I wanted to replace the clutch first.

I ordered a Marlin Crawler 1200lb clutch kit and started researching flywheels. Most everyone on here said go OEM, but geez they are proud of those things. I have a connection and it still cost me $325. :barf:

My runner is my DD so I couldn't afford to be without for more than a day, so I made sure I had all my parts assembled when I dropped it off at my shop. I normally do all my own work but I don't have a trans jack and with a 4 month old at home couldn't afford to spend a weekend doing it myself.

I had my shop leave all to old parts in the boxes so I could check their condition after I got it back and was surprised at their condition for supposedly having 217k on them and having a fair amount of chatter from the old flywheel. This lead me to believe the clutch had been done after all but no clue at what mileage.

Apparently when it was done they didn't use and OEM flywheel because the engine revs MUCH smoother now. I didn't think I could enjoy driving my Runner much more but it is night and day different. I used to avoid revving past about 3-3500 RPMs because it just didn't feel like to motor liked it. First time accelerating on the highway after the new and obviously better balanced flywheel installed was a blast! Revved past 4,000 for I believe the first time and it felt like I've always thought it should. :bravo:

BUY OEM TOYOTA PARTS!

 

[kolelt]

Idk who is your connection. But I got my flywheel OEM of eBay for $50 with bolts. You can get it re surfaced.

 

[d_benet]

I just had a new OEM clutch installed and flywheel resurfaced on my 2000 TFR with 185 on the original clutch. I pretty much had a similar experience... Got in the car and it was pretty much like learning how to drive a stick for the first time again. Stalled it leaving the parking lot not expecting the clutch to grab so hard and then got on the road and was ecstatic at how well it drove and easily the rpms climbed up. Glad to hear you had such good results as well.

 

[BankRunner]

Idk who is your connection. But I got my flywheel OEM of eBay for $50 with bolts. You can get it re surfaced.

So you got a used one off eBay that you had to resurface?

 

[kolelt]

So you got a used one off eBay that you had to resurface?

I got a used fly wheel. In great condition of eBay for $50 shipped. I did not resurface it because I didn't have time and it didn't really look beat up.

But you can resurface a flywheel just like a rotor.

Cost like $20-50 to resurface here. So still better then $300

Here's a OEM used
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-4Runne...3A1ab2e1011590a605b6204460ffd496c3%7Ciid%3A16

 

[nevada]

im confused.

why did you replace the flywheel in the first place?

its standard practice to resurface them. its a very rare occasion for them needing to be replaced.

that said, I think an aftermarket flywheel would have given you the same results.

 

[Roland]

Don't underestimate how much better Marlin's clutch is over stock. I have the same clutch and a non OEM flywheel and it works very well and no issues to the redline. Important to note that you should get a flywheel with + .020 which is the same that Marlin offers. He was out of stock when I did my clutch so I ordered an AMS one from Rock Auto.

 

[Scramble]

I replaced the flywheel with a new MC when I added the MC HD clutch. I think it was around $90 4 years ago.

 

[BankRunner]

I got a used fly wheel. In great condition of eBay for $50 shipped. I did not resurface it because I didn't have time and it didn't really look beat up.

But you can resurface a flywheel just like a rotor.

Cost like $20-50 to resurface here. So still better then $300

Here's a OEM used
Toyota 4Runner Tacoma T100 Tundra 3.4L V6 5-Speed Standard Manual Flywheel 5VZFE | eBay

Not trying to be a jerk, but going through the process of pulling the trans and installing a used unresurfaced flywheel is not the best plan. Like a brake pad, the clutch disc needs a machined surface to wear in properly and last. Plus it could be shuddering right of the bat. You'll most likely be doing the job all over again sooner rather than later I'd bet.

im confused.

why did you replace the flywheel in the first place?

its standard practice to resurface them. its a very rare occasion for them needing to be replaced.

that said, I think an aftermarket flywheel would have given you the same results.

I was working from the assumption mine had 217k on it, was shuddering under load and I didn't know how abused it had been before I got it. I didn't want to get it out hoping a resurface would solve it only to find it was used up with heat spots and cracks and/or had already been resurfaced and then have to wait on parts. I was also thinking if it is original, and it made it 217k, then it's worth the investment when averaged out over the life of the part.

 

[BankRunner]

Don't underestimate how much better Marlin's clutch is over stock. I have the same clutch and a non OEM flywheel and it works very well and no issues to the redline. Important to note that you should get a flywheel with + .020 which is the same that Marlin offers. He was out of stock when I did my clutch so I ordered an AMS one from Rock Auto.

Huge fan of the Marlin clutch so far. I can't believe how much better the pedal feel is and the smooth engagement.

 

[nevada]

I was working from the assumption mine had 217k on it, was shuddering under load and I didn't know how abused it had been before I got it. I didn't want to get it out hoping a resurface would solve it only to find it was used up with heat spots and cracks and/or had already been resurfaced and then have to wait on parts. I was also thinking if it is original, and it made it 217k, then it's worth the investment when averaged out over the life of the part.

I hope you didn't throw it away. its still good. just needs resurfaced.
they can usually be done 2-3 times, maybe more depending on how bad they are, before the end of their service life.

they can typically last the life of the vehicle fairly easily.

 

[kolelt]

Not trying to be a jerk, but going through the process of pulling the trans and installing a used unresurfaced flywheel is not the best plan. Like a brake pad, the clutch disc needs a machined surface to wear in properly and last. Plus it could be shuddering right of the bat. You'll most likely be doing the job all over again sooner rather than later I'd bet.



I was working from the assumption mine had 217k on it, was shuddering under load and I didn't know how abused it had been before I got it. I didn't want to get it out hoping a resurface would solve it only to find it was used up with heat spots and cracks and/or had already been resurfaced and then have to wait on parts. I was also thinking if it is original, and it made it 217k, then it's worth the investment when averaged out over the life of the part.

I'm confused. Your willing to pay $300 for a flywheel ? How is a hard flywheel and resurfacing not good? If you changing the clutch it's not hard to change the flywheel. I been using a used flywheel that has not been resurfaced for 2 years without issues. With a exedy clutch from autozone. Which is made in Japan. Everything was like $200

It's your truck so just my opinion.

 

[BankRunner]

I hope you didn't throw it away. its still good. just needs resurfaced.
they can usually be done 2-3 times, maybe more depending on how bad they are, before the end of their service life.

they can typically last the life of the vehicle fairly easily.

Oh I kept it. It turned out not to be in that bad of shape but one of the dowel pins wouldn't come out so I'm not sure what I'll do. If I can drill it out and resurface it, it may be worth something to someone or to have as a spare.

I'm confused. Your willing to pay $300 for a flywheel ? How is a hard flywheel and resurfacing not good? If you changing the clutch it's not hard to change the flywheel. I been using a used flywheel that has not been resurfaced for 2 years without issues. With a exedy clutch from autozone. Which is made in Japan. Everything was like $200

It's your truck so just my opinion.

I do believe in doing a job right the first time, even if that means spending more money. I read about every thread I could find on here about clutches and the most votes went to the Marlin clutch as an upgrade and a Toyota flywheel. Believe me I'm not crazy about spending that on a flywheel, but because I'm thinking very long term about this rig I didn't want to have regrets and/or be without my DD more longer than I could manage.

 

[kolelt]

Oh I kept it. It turned out not to be in that bad of shape but one of the dowel pins wouldn't come out so I'm not sure what I'll do. If I can drill it out and resurface it, it may be worth something to someone or to have as a spare.



I do believe in doing a job right the first time, even if that means spending more money. I read about every thread I could find on here about clutches and the most votes went to the Marlin clutch as an upgrade and a Toyota flywheel. Believe me I'm not crazy about spending that on a flywheel, but because I'm thinking very long term about this rig I didn't want to have regrets and/or be without my DD more longer than I could manage.

In no way am I trying to be a ahole. I'm just simply trying to understand why you think a brand new flywheel is any better then a used OEM flywheel and simply resurfaced? I've been using a used flywheel for 2 years probably.

Your still doing the job correctly and saving money.

 

[BankRunner]

In no way am I trying to be a ahole. I'm just simply trying to understand why you think a brand new flywheel is any better then a used OEM flywheel and simply resurfaced? I've been using a used flywheel for 2 years probably.

Your still doing the job correctly and saving money.

I don't think you're being an ahole. I just chose to go ahead a have a new one ready to put in in case the old one was shot. I couldn't afford for it to be down for long. The way my luck runs, the old one would be unusable in some way and I'd have to wait on parts. Since I wasn't set up to do it myself, which really ate at me by the way, this way helped me know everything was right.

Hoping to get my lift, wheels and tires put on over the holidays since I'm off the week between Christmas and New Years. :dancin:

 

[kolelt]

I don't think you're being an ahole. I just chose to go ahead a have a new one ready to put in in case the old one was shot. I couldn't afford for it to be down for long. The way my luck runs, the old one would be unusable in some way and I'd have to wait on parts. Since I wasn't set up to do it myself, which really ate at me by the way, this way helped me know everything was right.

Hoping to get my lift, wheels and tires put on over the holidays since I'm off the week between Christmas and New Years. :dancin:

gotch ya

 

[ThorInc]

I don't think you're being an ahole. I just chose to go ahead a have a new one ready to put in in case the old one was shot. I couldn't afford for it to be down for long. The way my luck runs, the old one would be unusable in some way and I'd have to wait on parts. Since I wasn't set up to do it myself, which really ate at me by the way, this way helped me know everything was right.

Hoping to get my lift, wheels and tires put on over the holidays since I'm off the week between Christmas and New Years. :dancin:

Have the old one resurfaced and sell it on Ebay.

 

[nevada]

Oh I kept it. It turned out not to be in that bad of shape but one of the dowel pins wouldn't come out so I'm not sure what I'll do. If I can drill it out and resurface it, it may be worth something to someone or to have as a spare.

don't worry about the dowel, the machine shop will do that part.

Have the old one resurfaced and sell it on Ebay.

this.