Toyota Trademarks FT-4X Name - FJ Cruiser Revival? UPDATE: REVEALED
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LawnDart
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The red tow hooks, bro, they're red!
1engineer
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I live in the 5th gen section. PLEASE FORGIVE ME
Understood, but if we let just any old thread get started in the 5th gen section then pretty soon we would be talking about running shoes and the best kind of crock pot over there...
Haydenatx
Member
Makes sense. Frankly I am just a snob and don't associate with anyone who drives anything but a 5th gen 4Runner. :shrug:
FourEyedWilly
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I aint given' up my roll down rear window for a submarine hatch.
99 sr5 highlander
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I feel like Toyota pretty much just gave a big middle finger to their existing 4wd enthusiast base.
4RunnerAquasport
Senior Member
If the dealer throws in lifetime popsicles? Well......nah.
The C-HR is FWD only. This would be a sub-compact crossover like the Honda HRV and Mazda CX3. Toyota is late to the game there.
The funny thing is Honda mentioned similar youthful demographic targets for the Element, only to find that the only ones buying it were 50+ year old ladies who were attracted by the small size, roomy interior, and great visibility.
I was disappointed because I was hoping for something different. (BOF, beast)
I don't think it's a middle finger though. They're not replacing the 4runner with this. They see a market in this particular category and are trying something different.
They aren't trying to lure away the off-roaders to this thing.
1engineer
Moderator
For all of you haters out there, remember three things:
1. Millennials are this vehicle's market. Not the 35 and up crowd with 2.5 kids.
2. Toyota, nor any other manufacturer (except the Apple IPod but that's a different topic), builds a product without a clear demand. So, don't blame Toyota for offering this, blame yourself. Toyota customer focus groups built this vehicle. So, good or bad, this is what they wanted.
3. Toyota is in business to make money. That's it. They don't do it out of passion, they do it to make money. In case you haven't heard, the CUV market is the strongest market out there.
Now, my thoughts: This is the direction that all auto manufacturers are heading. I look at this vehicle and I see a CRV or RAV4 with a few off road oriented options. A soft roader if you will.
As it applies to the 4Runner, remember that, while we are a passionate little group, we are just a small fraction of the 4Runner customer base. They didn't just pick some of us to be in the focus groups, they picked a cross section of their typical 4Runner customers. So the future of the 4Runner is going to be decided by their customers.
In regards to this vehicle, I would rather have it than some of the other offerings out there now. I for one am glad I am not in this target demographic. So when you start badmouthing Toyota, or Jeep, or Chevy remember that you and your peers are the ones that got us here.
1. Millennials are this vehicle's market. Not the 35 and up crowd with 2.5 kids.
2. Toyota, nor any other manufacturer (except the Apple IPod but that's a different topic), builds a product without a clear demand. So, don't blame Toyota for offering this, blame yourself. Toyota customer focus groups built this vehicle. So, good or bad, this is what they wanted.
3. Toyota is in business to make money. That's it. They don't do it out of passion, they do it to make money. In case you haven't heard, the CUV market is the strongest market out there.
Now, my thoughts: This is the direction that all auto manufacturers are heading. I look at this vehicle and I see a CRV or RAV4 with a few off road oriented options. A soft roader if you will.
As it applies to the 4Runner, remember that, while we are a passionate little group, we are just a small fraction of the 4Runner customer base. They didn't just pick some of us to be in the focus groups, they picked a cross section of their typical 4Runner customers. So the future of the 4Runner is going to be decided by their customers.
In regards to this vehicle, I would rather have it than some of the other offerings out there now. I for one am glad I am not in this target demographic. So when you start badmouthing Toyota, or Jeep, or Chevy remember that you and your peers are the ones that got us here.
PaulsTrail
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Isn’t that kind of what happened to the Scion brand also? Anyway, at the risk of sounding too much like an old fart, this looks to me like every obnoxious millennial stereotype wrapped up into one vehicle. The only other thing it needs is a built-in selfie stick. :crazy:
99 sr5 highlander
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As a millennial, this is the problem I have with it:
"Hunter says his team found that while millennials like to go outside, there’s a difference between them and previous generations. It’s not that they’re softer, they’re just “less hardcore.”
“Their needs and appetites are less hardcore and more of what we like to call, ‘casual-core,’” Hunter said. “Now in generations past, basecamp symbolized the beginning of a journey, but today for many millennials, basecamp has become the destination.”"
"Hunter says his team found that while millennials like to go outside, there’s a difference between them and previous generations. It’s not that they’re softer, they’re just “less hardcore.”
“Their needs and appetites are less hardcore and more of what we like to call, ‘casual-core,’” Hunter said. “Now in generations past, basecamp symbolized the beginning of a journey, but today for many millennials, basecamp has become the destination.”"
007Tacoma
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So, since I am 36 and have 1 kid I am not a millennial? Thank God for that. Those guys get blamed for every bad thing these days.
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