I’ve owned a 98 Tacoma, 03 Tundra, 08 Tundra, and currently the wife’s 15 4Runner. After 14 great years with my 08 Tundra I sold it last summer and bought an 06 Corvette for my 50th BDay present. I then picked up my other dream vehicle, 03 Ford Excursion on 35’s. Love them both, however I’m running into parts availability issues with both. Really pisses me off I can’t get simple parts from the OEM. Which will lead me to selling both of them soon. I’m looking at getting something I can keep for 30 years like a Land Cruiser or taking over my wife’s 4Runner. Will I still be able to get parts for it down the line or does Toyota do what American OEMs do?
Toyota’s parts availability track record?
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LeekT4R
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Hold on. Im looking for my crystal ball to see into the future.
Honda has their parts available for 23 year old cars. Most mfg do not have to keep parts available for 30 years though. Thats unrealistic. Aftermarket chyna parts will most likely be what you find unless its new old stock that you got lucky and found.
Honda has their parts available for 23 year old cars. Most mfg do not have to keep parts available for 30 years though. Thats unrealistic. Aftermarket chyna parts will most likely be what you find unless its new old stock that you got lucky and found.
That’s just part of the game. Finding Chrysler parts for my 1993 Dodge D-250 is impossible for certain components. Interestingly I can still easily get parts for the Cummins 6BT engine in it.
Most automakers only require their vendors to support parts for 10-15 years after they are no longer purchased for production aka Service only.
Since Toyota has long production cycles you will be able to find parts a little easier. Think about it… many mechanical parts on ‘23 4Runner are the same as a 2010 .
Most automakers only require their vendors to support parts for 10-15 years after they are no longer purchased for production aka Service only.
Since Toyota has long production cycles you will be able to find parts a little easier. Think about it… many mechanical parts on ‘23 4Runner are the same as a 2010 .
Whippersnapper02
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Generally manufacturers are only required to stock parts for 6 years after the final model year. You have plenty on the road to cover parts for a lifetime.
Thanks for the replies. I had Toyota trucks for 24 years straight and never really needed many parts bc of how well built they are. That is why I was asking. I know there are a lot of people still daily driving 3gen 4runners, so I figured they could shed some light on how it’s been.
I’m at a stage of my life where I’m putting less than 10k miles a year on my vehicle and I hate all the new vehicles with the complex EV crap. I purposely bought older vehicles bc of that, only to find that parts are disappearing. Probably dumb on my part I know. I just want to find something simple to work on w/o a bunch of electronic stuff. Something that I could put another 300k miles on. 4Runner/LC is the best option. Just might need a fuel pump etc for it in 15 years. I guess I could stock up on those type of parts. Maybe that is a better topic to discuss.
I’m at a stage of my life where I’m putting less than 10k miles a year on my vehicle and I hate all the new vehicles with the complex EV crap. I purposely bought older vehicles bc of that, only to find that parts are disappearing. Probably dumb on my part I know. I just want to find something simple to work on w/o a bunch of electronic stuff. Something that I could put another 300k miles on. 4Runner/LC is the best option. Just might need a fuel pump etc for it in 15 years. I guess I could stock up on those type of parts. Maybe that is a better topic to discuss.
Humble Leader
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Im surprised you're running into ford excursion issues given the f250 is the cousin of the excursion and there are plenty of them breaking down to create a demand for parts. try looking for f250 parts instead of excursion
as long as there's enough people bringing any model of a vehicle to a dealer for service, parts will be available
as long as there's enough people bringing any model of a vehicle to a dealer for service, parts will be available
Excursion owners are very lucky in that regard, yet when you search for OEM stuff, very common for 3/4 of the parts listed on the diagram to be discontinued. Compounding the problem is that any F250/350 that makes to a salvage yard gets raped the first day it’s on the lot.
Jetboy
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I can still buy almost all parts for my 50 year old Land Cruiser. Many still from the Toyota dealer. I think it's likely all the common stuff will be around for a long time. The 1gr engine is still the base engine in the land cruiser 300. I expect it'll be in production for another decade. And then parts available for 30 years after that.
There's going to be about a million 5th gen 4runners and another million plus Prado 150s sold in this generation. So the used parts will be around a long time as well.
And - it's a Toyota. Odds are pretty good that you won't need many parts over that time. I think 300k miles is reasonable to go without any major parts or repairs. My experience with my last 4runner was that the seats were the first thing to really start to deteriorate after about 20 years and 220k miles. Stitching in the leather was failing. The only other repairs it ever needed was the power antenna and a wheel bearing at 210k. My rx350 just had the second part fail. First was a rear shock seal at 75k miles - Lexus replaced it. Then at 113k miles one of the tail light bulbs went out. Cost me $2. So far that's it in 13 years. I kinda want a new one. But there's just never anything wrong with it. Not even little things. Gas, tires, oil, and air filters and a battery a few years ago. It's so cheap to own.
There's going to be about a million 5th gen 4runners and another million plus Prado 150s sold in this generation. So the used parts will be around a long time as well.
And - it's a Toyota. Odds are pretty good that you won't need many parts over that time. I think 300k miles is reasonable to go without any major parts or repairs. My experience with my last 4runner was that the seats were the first thing to really start to deteriorate after about 20 years and 220k miles. Stitching in the leather was failing. The only other repairs it ever needed was the power antenna and a wheel bearing at 210k. My rx350 just had the second part fail. First was a rear shock seal at 75k miles - Lexus replaced it. Then at 113k miles one of the tail light bulbs went out. Cost me $2. So far that's it in 13 years. I kinda want a new one. But there's just never anything wrong with it. Not even little things. Gas, tires, oil, and air filters and a battery a few years ago. It's so cheap to own.
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I worked for an OEM supplier for many years, my last 12 years in charge of Service.
IIRC, Honda’s Terms and Conditions called for 20 or 25 years of obligation to provide service parts after ending production.
In Toyota’s case, they didn’t specify a time limit. You were expected to provide service parts as long as there was a demand. Only when dealer annual demand dropped to extremely low numbers could we discuss discontinuing a part number.
IIRC, Honda’s Terms and Conditions called for 20 or 25 years of obligation to provide service parts after ending production.
In Toyota’s case, they didn’t specify a time limit. You were expected to provide service parts as long as there was a demand. Only when dealer annual demand dropped to extremely low numbers could we discuss discontinuing a part number.
I've reached a breaking point with the Excursion. Had a leak from the cheap plastic connector on heater core on firewall. Of course no OEM heater hose assembly was available, so I have to create one and use the $12 Dorman connector. In order to access the connector to remove it, I had to dump all my freon to disconnect the AC lines and replace the heater core bc I had to destroy the connector/nipple to get them off the nipple. What a effin PIA that was. The very next day I hopped in it for a Home Depot run and to enjoy my first coolant leak free drive in a few months. Hahaha, not so fast! Rear wiper motor goes out in rain storm. I've had it. Not even fixing it. Don't care. She gone!! Being put for sale on Friday. I don't mind working on my vehicles as a casual hobby, but I'm not a mechanic and I'm tired of working on it every week. Going back to the good life with Toyota where I fiddle with it once a year and change the oil. I'm on the hunt for a 4th gen V8 Runner.
fotorunner
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I have a 2000 4Runner and so far I've not had a problem finding Toyota parts for it.
CutthroatSlam
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Parts for my ‘94 and ‘95 Suburban K2500s w/ 6.5 diesel are getting skinnier on availability. DS4 Injection Pump no longer available new and you can’t get new pump heads. Could convert to mechanical DB2 injection pump. Most everything else is available and the things are pretty cheap to keep running.
‘94 is at 295K miles. ‘99 is at 240K miles. Redo the interior on the ‘94 and will be prepping and painting both this year. New Suburban is $80+K and you can’t get a 3/4 ton. The 3.0 liter in line six diesel they offer is a POS. I’ll keep my fully depreciated K2500s. They are not my commute vehicles.
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My 06 Corvette has weird shit discontinued. Like the driver windshield wiper arm and motor assembly. You can get passenger side from GM though. I may have that reversed, but you get the idea.:noidea:
CutthroatSlam
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I hate California, but there are a few things that I love there. (1) No rust on vehicles; (2) A ton of Pic-a-Part boneyards to search for parts. I am proud to be one of the few English speaking pickers who also owns LKQ stock with a decent gain on it.
