Trading in the 4Runner..
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honda250xtitan
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congrats on the new truck, those things are sweet...get the baby duramax!!
Bumbo
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I recall seeing a thread in the past where the same thing happened to some 4Runner owner(s).
I think there was a RTFM moment for the Toyota owner, perhaps where is one too for the Chevy, or a soon to be installed switch or mode to disable said saftey feature.
srsrogerissrs
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This.. I had a bad shimmy in the steering wheel and ended up replacing my pads/rotors AND getting them road force balanced in order for it to go away. I will admit, it has the tiniest shimmy now, way better than before.
However the new ZR2's are sweet. Two of my buddies picked up the diesel version and we took them to moab. I was jealous of the fuel economy they were getting versus my 4runner.
Jixxer6
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I was thinking the same thing. Talked to a guy last weekend complaining of this. He had 1” spacers. Pushing the caster forward would make it more stable at speed too.~4 degrees or so.
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Hans Moleman
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It's just hard to find someone who is worth a crap to balance or find tire problems now. It doens't help when the 4Runner platform is so sensitive to tire imbalances and defects.
I currently have slight steering wiggle that comes and goes. Everytime after a road force and lug adapter balance it would be all fine and dandy driving home. Then the next day it comes back. It likes the truck is playing mind games :rant:
I currently have slight steering wiggle that comes and goes. Everytime after a road force and lug adapter balance it would be all fine and dandy driving home. Then the next day it comes back. It likes the truck is playing mind games :rant:
Jetboy
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I had forgotten about adjusting the steering rack preload. Is that still possible in the 5th gen. It was a common adjustment/fix for play in the rack in the 3rd gen as they wore. I think I adjusted mine around 200k miles and it make a very noticeable difference - but it also had 200k miles of wear on the gear/rack without ever having been adjusted. [MENTION=66389]BlackWorksInc[/MENTION] discussed this a while ago and this is the fix that Lexus uses for the same problem - Lexus replaces the preload spring with a higher spring rate one. I'll have to take a look at mine sometime soon. The actual spring swap is a simple with the right tools. I don't know for sure what access looks like. It was super easy on the old ones.
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Congrats on the new purchase! We just traded in our 2016 Tundra Trd Pro for a 2018 GMC 3500 Denali with the Duramax. Jury is still out on it.
thennen
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Did I read you correctly? Did you take this off the dealer lot and immediately have the problem you're posting about, THEN do a lift and change tires? Did you not return to the dealership with the stock vehicle and the complaint, before doing mods? Trying to get the story straight, that's all.
TRDORmike
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Close. Put about 3-4 thousand KMS on it with I think 2 dealer visits. The forum goers on here swayed me to buy new wheels and tires which some said was a fix/made it better however the issue was still present. Just tried to live with it while performing many alignments/balances for about 20,000kms. Sold them because issue was not fixed and went back to stock seeing if it was possibly fixed with the different things I did but now it was only the aftermarket wheels are tires. Sold those, roadforced the OEM set and still there... put another 2k on it and I’m now here. With it sold and a so far great new little truck outside. Excited to experience life with a bed and have many plans for the truck to come.
GoXplore
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My wife and I own both. 2018 ZR2 Crew Cab gasoline engine and 2018 T4R TRD Off Road Premium. I prefer the T4R. The ZR2 is a nice truck but it's kind of boring in the sense that there's not much to do to it, and I like projects.
That said, the ZR2 is a fantastic truck. We took it, brand new, on a road trip across four states and back on our first week of ownership. Extremely comfortable.
That said, the ZR2 is a fantastic truck. We took it, brand new, on a road trip across four states and back on our first week of ownership. Extremely comfortable.
shrub1
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This.. I had a bad shimmy in the steering wheel and ended up replacing my pads/rotors AND getting them road force balanced in order for it to go away. I will admit, it has the tiniest shimmy now, way better than before.
However the new ZR2's are sweet. Two of my buddies picked up the diesel version and we took them to moab. I was jealous of the fuel economy they were getting versus my 4runner.
Wow!
Are those Chevys bone stock??
JKLNHYD
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Yes they are! It's the stock stuff you can't see that makes them even more offroad capable.
Muzzle of Bees
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There is your problem. Another example of a dealership that has an opportunity to do things correctly and fails miserably. It is really hard to find a good mechanic. It is especially difficult when the options are limited and apathy takes over.
shrub1
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From what I can see they look pretty good. Much better than other stock pick ups. Perhaps the Ranger at some trim level will rival it when it comes out here in the US. The Chevy looks good though.
Jetboy
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They did a good job with a factory lift on them. My friend has one. Likes it so far. But he doesn't off road at all. Just commutes to work in it. The clearance around the bumpers and belly are just as high as my 4Runner with a 3ish lift and 33" tires. I do have a good bit more ground clearance under the axles though. Probably 2 inches more because of the 33" tires vs the 30" ones they come with (31 nominal measures 30.2) and the shock hangers that are so low. That rear axle just makes you want to bang your head on the wall.
Overall I think GM did a great job with it.
Most are wowed by how "built" the ZR2 looks stock. This is easy to accomplish when you cut away the front corners of the bumper to reveal the entire wheel well, it's an illusion of clearance and height. The parts that come into contact with ground underneath, you know the stuff that actually matters, is lower than a stock 4Runner.
Don't get me wrong here, I am in no way bashing on the ZR2, I like them and applaud GM for bringing a fierce competitor to the table in this segment, but don't be fooled by simple body work modifications.
Don't get me wrong here, I am in no way bashing on the ZR2, I like them and applaud GM for bringing a fierce competitor to the table in this segment, but don't be fooled by simple body work modifications.
Bumbo
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While what you are saying is correct, 8.9" vs 9.6", the cut away corners give a much more aggressive approach/departure angles, which is widely useful in it's own right, even without the ground clearance in certain instances.
Personally I think it's easier to actually lift the truck than to start modifying bumpers, body panels, fenders.
Being a desert guy, it’s not really the ground clearance that is holding me back now. I don’t really feel like chopping up the bumper or buying a new one to get the same result on my 4Runner either.
I hear what your are saying, but cutting away the corners only helps your clearance at the corners, it doesn't improve your break over angle in the middle where everything is.
Desert running is an entirely different can of worms. If that's what you plan to do with it then I would certainly favor the V6 over the diesel.
