Trail Edition Vs. V8

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I have a chance to bid on a Trail Edition, but most of my focus has been finding a virgin V8 up to now...

I could use a locker... but always figured I would eventually upgrade to an ARB system.

Thoughts from those wiser than I?
 
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I have a chance to bid on a Trail Edition, but most of my focus has been finding a virgin V8 up to now...

I could use a locker... but always figured I would eventually upgrade to an ARB system.

Thoughts from those wiser than I?

You will notice the V8 every time you drive, an elocker is nice to have but not necessary a lot of the time even when crawling on rocks. The locker is a nice value-add ($1000) if you can get the truck for the same price as the V8.
 
Locking rear diff is a must for me.

If you think about it with open front and rear diffs your 4x4 vehicle is essentially a 2wd vehicle in difficult terrain.
 
What are you going to be using it for? Mostly highway? Lots of rock crawling/offroad?

The V8 is great if you're one who tows frequently. Just plain great to have in general. I still make kiddish giggles when I floor her.
 
Locking rear diff is a must for me.

If you think about it with open front and rear diffs your 4x4 vehicle is essentially a 2wd vehicle in difficult terrain.

ATRAC works well though. An AWD vehicle is basically still a 1wd vehicle but you can't tell me AWD vehicles can't get more grip.

Maybe most AWD cars have some form of locking center diff, I have no idea.

I've been a lot of places without a locker, but I do hate when I have to get winched up something and my brother doesn't.
 
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I have a chance to bid on a Trail Edition, but most of my focus has been finding a virgin V8 up to now...

I could use a locker... but always figured I would eventually upgrade to an ARB system.

Thoughts from those wiser than I?

it would be much easier to swap in a locker later, than it would to swap in a v8.
 
Maybe most AWD cars have some form of locking center diff, I have no idea.

Most AWD cars have some form of limited slip diffs. E.g. Audi Quattro has a torsen center like our 4th gens.

My first sports car was a 1st gen Eclipse Turbo AWD, with both center and rear viscous LSDs. Amazing vehicle, really regret getting rid of it.
 
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Locking rear diff is a must for me.

If you think about it with open front and rear diffs your 4x4 vehicle is essentially a 2wd vehicle in difficult terrain.

with the center dif locked the rear and front remain open making your claim that one rear wheel and one front wheel drive the vehicle? TIA
 
Locking rear diff is a must for me.

If you think about it with open front and rear diffs your 4x4 vehicle is essentially a 2wd vehicle in difficult terrain.
eh, not exactly. if you have tires off the ground, or on sheet ice, then maybe. but when all 4 tires are on the ground getting traction, there is a percentage of power going to EACH tire.
also, if both tires have equal traction, they can both spin, just like when using an actual locker.

with the center dif locked the rear and front remain open making your claim that one rear wheel and one front wheel drive the vehicle? TIA
I believe that is what hes saying, but its not accurate.
it depends on how much traction each tire has.
 
retrofitting an elocker into a V8 is an awesome combo. I have done it and the total cost for everything was 1600 including installation. ( I rarely use the elocker ) I can get up most terrain without it that many rubicon jeeps have extreme trouble with- and that is with both front and rear locked. The alternate wheel-jerking atrac system programming has got me out of being stuck more times than I can count and I doubt that the elocker would have done the same.
 
Another option for the rear, which would actually be better for a mostly street and light offroad vehicle, is the Detroit Truetrac, a Torsen LSD like our center diffs. It would help traction 100% of the time instead of 0.001% like the locker (unless you're crawling rocks every weekend I guess). Also works really well with ATRAC from what I've read.
 
What are you going to be using it for? Mostly highway? Lots of rock crawling/offroad?

To be honest, mostly city driving. But I'll be doing the same desert, SoCal trail stuff I've been doing currently in my Jeep Liberty CRD.

So far I haven't seen anything I can't handle in 4LO in the Jeep, and I don't expect anything much gnarlier.

My needle is still slightly tipped towards V8, since I can always add the locker later. Plus, there might be some towing in my future.

Thanks for the input, everyone.
 
...while I'm here asking questions...

Since it looks like I'm focused on the V8, any reason I should stay away from an 06 to 08 GX470?

Frankly, there are more of them around here in SoCal than V8 T4R's and they are similarly priced.

First thing I was going to do to either vehicle is swap to an OME or Icon suspension.
 
...while I'm here asking questions...

Since it looks like I'm focused on the V8, any reason I should stay away from an 06 to 08 GX470?

Frankly, there are more of them around here in SoCal than V8 T4R's and they are similarly priced.

First thing I was going to do to either vehicle is swap to an OME or Icon suspension.

i couldn't find a 4wd v8 out in this area for a while and considered a GX, i went to test drive one at the dealer and didn't like how tall it felt, like i was setting in a captains chair, so i decided against it, if i were you i would definitely test drive both and see what you like, i got lucky and found an 05 v8 a couple of weeks after and been happy ever since.
 

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