Bruin1md
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.......struggling with this decision.
Had a 2016 GX 460, on which I loved the V8 and KDSS, and since sold it and got a Ram 1500 Rebel that I've had for 18 months (hemi V8).
I'm spoiled in that I'm not sure I can get used to the 4.0 V6 on the 4runner (I didn't much like the 3.5 on the Taco TRD pro I drove last year), but I'm getting the chance to pick up a '20 TRD pro for around $2500 under MSRP.
I'm moving to the desert soon and will using the truck for lots of interstate driving b/w Vegas and L.A. and some light to moderate off roading in Nevada, Utah, and CA......I'll have time to go explore. It might go from light/moderate to moderate/serious off roading-- i'm not sure yet.
I'm not big on doing lots of after market mods, but I did put XD wheels and BFG KO2's on my GX and posted pics back in late 2015/early 2016. Looked pretty good and drove well, with the exception of some minor rubbing up front that I took care of. Surprisingly, my Ram 1500 Rebel with Toyo Open Country AT tires drives smoother than did my Lexus with that After market set up.
I'm not desperate to sell my truck by any means and had planned on keeping it for at least another year, but my neighbor may want to buy it at a good price, and the Toyota dealer is willing to do a courtesy trade so I can save on sales tax.
My 2017 Ram 1500 doesn't have any modern safety features (frontal collision warning, adaptive cruise) as a FYI, and is one major reason for me considering getting something with those features (adaptive cruise, frontal collision warning, emergency braking)
TRD Pro plusses/minuses:
+ Rig is set up great for non hardcore off roaders like me. I'll likely do almost nothing to it-- not even sure I will add a lift.
+ Fox shocks allow for amazingly smooth ride across poor roads and highway driving. Actually makes for a great cruiser from what I hear.
+ Presumed fantastic resale on a special color (AG) Pro
- No KDSS. I loved KDSS on my GX but am hoping I won't miss it too much on the Pro as I don't plan on turning
- Price of the TRD Pro. $2500 is great but I may be able to get a fair amount more off on a TRD ORP.
- Anemic V6. Not familiar whether adding a supercharger messes with the warranty, and/or how much people find this helps.
TRD ORP plusses/minuses:
+ KDSS is an option
+ Will save me $8-9K vs the Pro
+/- Can still get TRD Pro wheels and then get some KO2's or Falkens instead of the Nitto Grapplers.
- Resale may not be as good as the Pro
- While KDSS is great for cornering, the Pro may actually be the more comfortable cruiser.
-Anemic V6....see above.
As an aside, I have a Shelby GT350 as my 'fun car' so my 4runner doesn't need to handle like it's on rails ; )
Also, going back to Lexus is sort of 'meh' to me mostly b/c of the design of the suv. I thought the 470 >>>460 in terms of looks, and that Lexus took a huge step backwards in the design of that thing.
The dealer gets an AG TRD Pro coming very soon. If my neighbor doesn't want the truck after all, then I'll likely just keep my Ram 1500 for another 8-10 months at least, and re visit this next year after people give more feedback on their '20's over the next several months. I'm in no rush--unless my neighbor says he absolutely wants the truck--in which case I need to make a decision quickly.
If the consensus is that the ORP > Pro, then I can always tell the dealer I want to order a '20 TRD ORP with KDSS, sell the truck, and wait on the 4runner. If the consensus is get the pro, then that's a transaction that I would make in a week or so.
Also, there are no local dealerships that have both a Pro and and ORP with KDSS for me to drive back to back.
Would love to hear people's opinions on these options.
Had a 2016 GX 460, on which I loved the V8 and KDSS, and since sold it and got a Ram 1500 Rebel that I've had for 18 months (hemi V8).
I'm spoiled in that I'm not sure I can get used to the 4.0 V6 on the 4runner (I didn't much like the 3.5 on the Taco TRD pro I drove last year), but I'm getting the chance to pick up a '20 TRD pro for around $2500 under MSRP.
I'm moving to the desert soon and will using the truck for lots of interstate driving b/w Vegas and L.A. and some light to moderate off roading in Nevada, Utah, and CA......I'll have time to go explore. It might go from light/moderate to moderate/serious off roading-- i'm not sure yet.
I'm not big on doing lots of after market mods, but I did put XD wheels and BFG KO2's on my GX and posted pics back in late 2015/early 2016. Looked pretty good and drove well, with the exception of some minor rubbing up front that I took care of. Surprisingly, my Ram 1500 Rebel with Toyo Open Country AT tires drives smoother than did my Lexus with that After market set up.
I'm not desperate to sell my truck by any means and had planned on keeping it for at least another year, but my neighbor may want to buy it at a good price, and the Toyota dealer is willing to do a courtesy trade so I can save on sales tax.
My 2017 Ram 1500 doesn't have any modern safety features (frontal collision warning, adaptive cruise) as a FYI, and is one major reason for me considering getting something with those features (adaptive cruise, frontal collision warning, emergency braking)
TRD Pro plusses/minuses:
+ Rig is set up great for non hardcore off roaders like me. I'll likely do almost nothing to it-- not even sure I will add a lift.
+ Fox shocks allow for amazingly smooth ride across poor roads and highway driving. Actually makes for a great cruiser from what I hear.
+ Presumed fantastic resale on a special color (AG) Pro
- No KDSS. I loved KDSS on my GX but am hoping I won't miss it too much on the Pro as I don't plan on turning
- Price of the TRD Pro. $2500 is great but I may be able to get a fair amount more off on a TRD ORP.
- Anemic V6. Not familiar whether adding a supercharger messes with the warranty, and/or how much people find this helps.
TRD ORP plusses/minuses:
+ KDSS is an option
+ Will save me $8-9K vs the Pro
+/- Can still get TRD Pro wheels and then get some KO2's or Falkens instead of the Nitto Grapplers.
- Resale may not be as good as the Pro
- While KDSS is great for cornering, the Pro may actually be the more comfortable cruiser.
-Anemic V6....see above.
As an aside, I have a Shelby GT350 as my 'fun car' so my 4runner doesn't need to handle like it's on rails ; )
Also, going back to Lexus is sort of 'meh' to me mostly b/c of the design of the suv. I thought the 470 >>>460 in terms of looks, and that Lexus took a huge step backwards in the design of that thing.
The dealer gets an AG TRD Pro coming very soon. If my neighbor doesn't want the truck after all, then I'll likely just keep my Ram 1500 for another 8-10 months at least, and re visit this next year after people give more feedback on their '20's over the next several months. I'm in no rush--unless my neighbor says he absolutely wants the truck--in which case I need to make a decision quickly.
If the consensus is that the ORP > Pro, then I can always tell the dealer I want to order a '20 TRD ORP with KDSS, sell the truck, and wait on the 4runner. If the consensus is get the pro, then that's a transaction that I would make in a week or so.
Also, there are no local dealerships that have both a Pro and and ORP with KDSS for me to drive back to back.
Would love to hear people's opinions on these options.
