Tundra Axle Swap

Donk0

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Recently picked up a new Runner and unfortunately I'm getting the build bug again. I used to wheel a 1976 Bronco however it was far from family friendly and even less friendly as a daily driver. So now I'm considering a mild build (read 33"s) with enough stregth to withstand some time in the rocks.

Anyone ever installed a set of Tundra axles on their 4Runner, does it even make sense? I'm looking for some added strength and don't want an over the top project like an SAS conversion.

Great forum by the way.
 
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from my understanding the only difference between ours and the turndras is length, i could be wrong though......as far as i know with out modding the cv's yourself
TC is the only company you can get these from.......
 
from my understanding the only difference between ours and the turndras is length, i could be wrong though......as far as i know with out modding the cv's yourself
TC is the only company you can get these from.......


The 4runner uses a 3 point inner cv joint while the Tundra uses a 6 point cv joint.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/85875-4runner-cv-shafts-will-work.html

Once i start my 2uz-fe conversion, i will experiment with the tundra (sequoia) inner cv on our half shafts.
 
The 4runner uses a 3 point inner cv joint while the Tundra uses a 6 point cv joint.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/85875-4runner-cv-shafts-will-work.html

Once i start my 2uz-fe conversion, i will experiment with the tundra (sequoia) inner cv on our half shafts.

you have any idea besides the mount what the difference is? i don;t see the point in doing this if the half shafts are the same dia. unless your going to a long travel set up......i would be tempter to run the tundra cv's as well if i knew they could take more of a pounding......as i believe that most of our cv's tend to fail at the stub or basically the shaft fails correct? the CV joint it' self is fairly rugged......honestly i don't know this is just how i understand it to be...am i on the right path here?
 
you have any idea besides the mount what the difference is? i don;t see the point in doing this if the half shafts are the same dia. unless your going to a long travel set up......i would be tempter to run the tundra cv's as well if i knew they could take more of a pounding......as i believe that most of our cv's tend to fail at the stub or basically the shaft fails correct? the CV joint it' self is fairly rugged......honestly i don't know this is just how i understand it to be...am i on the right path here?

This is just my opinion but the 4runners 3 point joint binds badly in high articulation. The tundras has more articulation and at full drop, will still keep turning.

Is it stronger, It seams that most of them have been breaking inside the diff housing so it might not make a difference as the 2 cv joints have the same dimensions . The funny this that i hardly hear of the tundra or sequoia breaking the cv joints.

It might be that it has different metal compositions making it stronger. Who knows.
 
Has anyone swapped in a Tundra rear axle on our 4Runners? I was wondering how well it would work if you did the TC long travel up front and had the wider rear Tundra axle to match??? There must be someone on Pirate who's done it....
 
the inner joint isnt the issue on out cv's its the outer joint thats a big POS!. The only difference between our cv joints is really the length. Total chaos designed their kit to use stock tundra cv's in a tacoma. However they sell "modified tundra axles" and this really gets people confused. All they are doing is machining the edge off the inner tulip so the inner will not bind at full droop with Long travel. What they dont tell you is this makes about a 1/2" to 3/4" difference in where the droop binds the cv. With long travel you are supposed to run limit straps so if you strap it 1/2" sooner you can just user regular tundra cv's which cost about $90 each.... I would sacrifice that 1/2" of droop for $180 per pair of cv's compared to TC "Modified axles" which are about $1000.

THe tundra front diff is that exact same as ours... Same spline count (27) and everything. Who cares about that inner joint. Its a good design on 4runner/tacoma cv's. I have never heard of someone breaking the inner joint. Its always the outer or the shaft breaks off in the diff. THe real issue is the junky race on the outer...

As as far as a tundra axle in the back. Sure it will work. But what do you want to do? Run leafs? Move the gas tank and 4 link it? ANything can be done but if you just want a stronger wider axle i would suggest looking for a ford 9, dana 60, toyota 9.5 (80 series lc rear end), corp 14 bolt. Cutting the stock 4runner brackets off the axle on putting them on a different one is alot of work you will get better results completely ditching the stock rear suspension. Want an easy swap? Use chevy 63 leafs and chop all the other brackets off. IMO a 4link is easy enough to get half decent numbers on our trucks with straight lowers About 36" long and uppers about 35º slightly shorter. If you want to go that route get the 4 link calc and play with it.

Good luck
 

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