Wow, quite the attitude.
You mentioned the "Limited 3-spoke wheels", and your signature says you have a '97 Limited. I was under the impression the stock brakes for that rig would be the 199mm flavor already- is that not the case?
Please see the pictures of the measurement differences I posted earlier to answer your question. Yes, they're both 199mm...but they're not the same width. The Tundra ones accommodate about a half inch thicker rotor.
Also, the only attitude I was giving was from trying to steer the conversation away from the merits of 231 over 199, and why I was a wrong for going with 199. I already bought everything and I was in the process of putting it on. Not to mention, my actual questions in my original post were about whether or not I can reuse my pads and if the 199 calipers are similar looking to the stock 4Runner calipers.
I got two responses to my original post and one was telling me that the calipers I got were the exact same as the ones I pulled off. While that post was happening, I was noticing that the gap for the rotor was different between the two, so I measured it and it turned out that was where the important difference was. The other was about why the offhand comment I made about trimming a dust cover was a stupid reason not to go with 231s. It wasn't the ONLY reason I went with 199s (as I explained), and it isn't a helpful comment anyway since I clearly already have all of the parts to do the 199s. I'm not going to suddenly come to my senses and just send it all back, now am I?
Think of my response more as an "really? This is what you're going to focus on?" comment. I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but come on, I had two questions and I wasn't asking for advice on 199 vs 231. I ended up answering the questions myself anyway, so what help was it to comment about some inconsequential part of my thread?
Let me stress, I've been here since 2010 and had nothing but really helpful experiences here, so it was a little surprising to get that kind of response. I've always been grateful of that.
The biggest problem with the stock brakes was the thin rotors warping super easy under heavy braking so you should benefit a lot from the 199's as they do allow you to run the thicker tundra rotors. The benefit of the 231's is only a slight increase in surface area. When people hear you have to cut the dust shield they think its some huge undertaking but it truly is a very minor procedure. I personally went with 231's because i like seeing sparks fly and I'm also running 17" Tundra wheels. As for ABS, i pulled the fuse and the dash bulb. Complete garbage on these trucks especially coming to sudden stops from low speeds on shitty California roads. ABS is for people who don't know how to drive. Congrats on your upgrade, make sure you bleed em good and you will notice a significant improvement
This. I was going to run 231s if I ended up getting aftermarket wheels, but I didn't and the T4R was relieved of daily duties so I decided to leave the wheels as is since they've worked great for me thus far. Getting the 231s and keeping my wheels would have also involved cutting away at my wheels, which makes no sense for me to do when there's a perfectly acceptable solution in 199 that doesn't require that much effort for a truck I don't daily anymore.
I bled them (took a lot more bleeding than I thought it would), and I'm going to bed them tomorrow in the mountains. I think it's one of the few places where I can stop quickly from 60mph without worrying about getting rear-ended! Hah!
Ah, the Tundra 199 use thicker rotors- gotcha. The surface area of the 231 brake pad isn't the biggest advantage for me- it's definitely the larger diameter rotor giving the caliper more leverage on the rotor. Good to know the Tundra 199 rotor is thicker than the 4R 199 though.
Yes. I posted pics of the gap measurement in the calipers which would indicate about a half inch of difference in the rotor thickness.
Everyone happy here now? Thanks for trying to help at least (no sarcasm).
