Value of 4Runner as 6th Gen arrive

[EddieV4runnin]

I bought my 4RUNNER because it’s made in Japan

That’s why I bought mine. Never been inside another vehicle that felt so solid. They just have a different way of doing things in Japan. I love everything about it. Maybe I’m simple, but there’s really nothing I would change about the 5th gen. Even if the 6th gen was released tomorrow I’d never trade mine in. It’s been so reliable I don’t think anything on the road can touch it.

 

[thennen]

I agree with this. More speeds is not necessarily a good thing unless done right. My wife has a 9-speed in her Pilot and for descending mountain roads it is awful. Never seems to be in the right gear and poor at engine braking. It just has too many gears. Though I will concede it is nice and smooth the rest of the time for climbing and casual driving.

Still, my 5-speed Acura is always in the right gear no matter the conditions and it is quite the canyon carver.... This was one of my decisions in buying a '19 Limited. 5 speeds. Yes, it's not terribly quick but I've never felt like 5-speed was too little.

I drove the 8-speed Rav4 before deciding on the Limited. That may have worked (I didn't get the chance to test it in mountains) but I still felt like a 6 or 7 speed would have been just fine for a 4Runner. No need for anything else.

Agree with you both on too many gears.

 

[thennen]

I have bought used cars all my life which were behind on several generations. Ever since owning my 4Runner I stay a bit more up to date with value and the market trends. Just wondering what the thought's are on the 5th gen's value (especially on the refresh TRD PRO) when the 6th Gen comes out? I know this is such a vague questions as so many unknows are possible. Look at the FJ Cruisers, they hold their value very well and I feel that Toyota considers previous production line when producing something new. I feel Toyota tries to please the new crowd with value in new generations while trying to make the previous one "special" in a way with color schemes and trims and such. Amuse me and let me know what your opinion is!

I'd be interested to see how the previous gens held up after each new gen release to date. I'm guessing that used versions of the previous generation held their values each time, from 1st Gen to today. But that's just a guess - I've never researched it. I would also say that 1st Gen to 2nd Gen was probably the biggest makeover, maybe of any vehicle. Unlikely we'll see anything close to that huge of a change.

 

[TX912]

the 4R is many years behind other platforms in terms of technology - which paleo-offload purists love and its a buletproof platform so it has its niche. those same folks are of the type of mindset that wouldn't buy a 1st year of a redesigned vehicle. i think the more casual types will abandon the 4R platform if they stick to the traditional formula - the outback and other platforms are much more urban-friendly.

 

[maxp0wer]

Personally, I don't care a lot. I bought the 4Runner expecting it to last 12 - 15 years and 200k+ miles. For me, the 4Runner is more of a long term investment and will be a reliable family cruiser and off road toy for many years. By that time, it will probably still have a decent resale value.

 

[CutthroatSlam]

Why the worry? The biggest influence on resale value will be the end of this business cycle and a ton of cars coming off lease which pushes resale values down. Drive the thing for 10+ years and it doesn't matter.

 

[thennen]

Personally, I don't care a lot. I bought the 4Runner expecting it to last 12 - 15 years and 200k+ miles. For me, the 4Runner is more of a long term investment and will be a reliable family cruiser and off road toy for many years. By that time, it will probably still have a decent resale value.

My position exactly. I bought a 1988 new and kept it until 2005 with 305,000 miles, when resale value had lost its meaning. Currently have a 2001 with 265,000 miles - resale on that is meaningless to me. Rust monter is killing it. Just bought a 2019, plan to keep that for as long or longer (plan to drive it less). If 4Runners still came with roll-up windows and push/pull locks, I'd still get one because of my experience with their durability.

 

[TRD PANTHER]

Personally, I don't care a lot. I bought the 4Runner expecting it to last 12 - 15 years and 200k+ miles. For me, the 4Runner is more of a long term investment and will be a reliable family cruiser and off road toy for many years. By that time, it will probably still have a decent resale value.

I have been driving Toyota 4WD Trucks as my daily drivers since 1982. I’m on my 4th. I had my previous 2001 4Runner for almost 18 years prior to my current 2018 Pro. I hope to have this one for the same duration. The poor styling of the 4th gen just kept my 3rd gen more desirable. Even with the optional V8 and crawl control I never wanted a 4th and felt it was the end of the 4Runner. Even with the 5th, I did not get excited about the 5th gen until I saw the Pro and the restyle in 2015. I had a TRD supercharger on my 2001 since new and that kept it contemporary power wise. Unlike old Dodges, Chevys, Mitsubishi’s, etc., Toyota 4Runners hold interest due to there capabilities and reliability. The new 4Runner would have to be so much more powerful with at least twice the gas mileage as now for me to be interested.

 

[johnnyg88]

With the first two months of 2019 in the history books, here are your top 20 SUVs and crossovers:

1. Nissan Rogue: 58,012
2. Honda CR-V: 55,456
3. Toyota RAV4: 50,654
4. Jeep Grand Cherokee: 33,084
5. Toyota Highlander: 31,797
6. Jeep Cherokee: 31,158
7. Jeep Wrangler: 28,025
8. Subaru Forester: 26,451
9. Mazda CX-5: 24,029
10. Subaru Outback: 23,269
11. Jeep Compass: 22,361
12. Toyota 4Runner: 20,319
13. Honda Pilot: 19,546
14. Hyundai Santa Fe: 17,754
15. Hyundai Tucson: 16,855
16. Subaru Crosstrek: 16,493
17. Dodge Journey: 15,490
18. VW Tiguan: 14,850
19. Kia Sorento: 14,112
20. Honda HR-V: 13,067

 

[mteolus]

With the first two months of 2019 in the history books, here are your top 20 SUVs and crossovers:

1. Nissan Rogue: 58,012
2. Honda CR-V: 55,456
3. Toyota RAV4: 50,654
4. Jeep Grand Cherokee: 33,084
5. Toyota Highlander: 31,797
6. Jeep Cherokee: 31,158
7. Jeep Wrangler: 28,025
8. Subaru Forester: 26,451
9. Mazda CX-5: 24,029
10. Subaru Outback: 23,269
11. Jeep Compass: 22,361
12. Toyota 4Runner: 20,319
13. Honda Pilot: 19,546
14. Hyundai Santa Fe: 17,754
15. Hyundai Tucson: 16,855
16. Subaru Crosstrek: 16,493
17. Dodge Journey: 15,490
18. VW Tiguan: 14,850
19. Kia Sorento: 14,112
20. Honda HR-V: 13,067

Dodge Journey sold 15,490??? Wow, must be some good stuff to smoke out there.

 

[4FL]

I have been driving Toyota 4WD Trucks as my daily drivers since 1982. I’m on my 4th. I had my previous 2001 4Runner for almost 18 years prior to my current 2018 Pro. I hope to have this one for the same duration. The poor styling of the 4th gen just kept my 3rd gen more desirable. Even with the optional V8 and crawl control I never wanted a 4th and felt it was the end of the 4Runner. Even with the 5th, I did not get excited about the 5th gen until I saw the Pro and the restyle in 2015. I had a TRD supercharger on my 2001 since new and that kept it contemporary power wise. Unlike old Dodges, Chevys, Mitsubishi’s, etc., Toyota 4Runners hold interest due to there capabilities and reliability. The new 4Runner would have to be so much more powerful with at least twice the gas mileage as now for me to be interested.

Same with me, the 6th gen would have to be an amazing leap for me to get out of mine and into one of those.

This is my first 4runner, my first Toyota of any kind, love it, it is the second longest I ever owned a car (8 years is my record), and plan on keeping this thing, well, for a very long time.

 

[bsa70]

Your right on varibles, you just wont know until the new one has been out a while. Toyota could put out a real turd. But generally, it will decrease the desirablility. People want the latest and greatest. Mine is a 2014 and you really cant tell at a short distance between it and the 2019.

I prior was into the toyota highlander. They changed fairly frequently and that older models really lost value.

I think the biggest change that could take place is the front end. If the radical change that occurred between the 2013 and 2014 takes place and looks much better. That will kill the current generation.

 

[bsa70]

Very hard to believe the jeep compass out sells the 4runner. The chrysler line is currently the worst vehicle far as dependability in the US right now. I wonder how much the price is a factor in this. I dont keep up with prices...

 

[jhguth]

Very hard to believe the jeep compass out sells the 4runner. The chrysler line is currently the worst vehicle far as dependability in the US right now. I wonder how much the price is a factor in this. I dont keep up with prices...

rentals and fleet vehicles

 

[usdashworks]

i dont see the 4runner going away from its roots anytime soon...

 

[Starsky]

Based on historical T4R sales, I'm happy they have a reason to have a 6th generation. Hopefully, they'll keep the best parts and fix the weakest ones.

Jan. 2019 was the highest January sales of any year since the 4Runner has been produced. It's not the most practical daily driver, and I think that has a huge impact on sales, especially given the price point and specialized feature set.

The 6th Get T4r is just as likely to drive 5th Gen prices up as down, depending on the new features and MSRP.

 

[johnnyg88]

Next-gen Toyota Tacoma and Tundra to be built on shared truck platform:

Toyota plans to use a new truck platform to underpin the next-generation Tundra and Tacoma, according to a report from Automotive News. Unnamed sources within Toyota revealed the news, saying the platform is known internally as "F1" and will be used in those pickups on a global scale.

Of course, the Tundra is a full-size pickup, while the Tacoma is midsize. This means that Toyota's truck platform needs to have a degree of modularity, similar to the company's TNGA platform that underpins both large and small cars. Toyota sources report that the shared platform is nearing completion, and we can expect to see a truck built on it as soon as the 2021 model year. If that's true, it's almost certain we'd see the platform hit the Tundra first. That truck's roots trace all the way back to 2007, and the truck is really feeling its age against the modern domestic pickups. We've also seen spy shots of a Tundra mule running around, trying hard to conceal what's underneath.

Toyota has done significant work to the Tacoma recently. It was completely overhauled in 2015, and Toyota just released a light refresh for the 2020 model year at the Chicago Auto Show. This leads us to believe the Tacoma might carry on as-is, adopting the F1 platform some time after the Tundra does.

Toyota builds the Tundra and Tacoma at a plant in San Antonio, Texas. There is also some Tacoma production in Mexico. Moving both trucks to a shared platform could potentially make production easier for Toyota at its plant in Texas. Unfortunately, we don't have any details to go on for what the new underpinnings will consist of. An educated guess from recent spy shots suggested that it might be a coil spring or air spring setup in the rear — keep in mind, that's pure speculation at this point.

This also brings up the question of a Sequoia redesign. That SUV is largely based on the Tundra, so a refresh to that platform could mean the Sequoia isn't too far behind. For now, there's no concrete information on that one, but we can assume something is in the works.

If the timeline suggested in the report is true, we can expect to see this new F1 truck platform revealed in 2020. Electrification in some form is expected to be a part of the equation, but we'll need to wait to learn more details. It's certainly an interesting move to put different-size pickups on the same platform. We just hope it doesn't come with compromises to both trucks.

This article does not mention 4R, but you'd have to think if the Tacoma is getting this....well.....

 

[Blue109]

That ought to drive up the value of previous gens!

On the other hand...add lane sensing and adaptive cruise control and self parking and self driving and skynet and self whatever else and people will line up for it. The "LOW-TECHness" of the 4runner is one of the things I love about it.

 

[6172crew]

If they try to use the tacoma 3.5l the old 4runners will be worth millions. I traded my taco because of the engine and trans package. That taco was a fart box with a nice interior. :suspicious:

 

[TacoRunn0517]

I don't think anyone would be going out on a limb by saying that the 5th Gen will mimic the resale values of it preceding Gens. 4Runners hold their value based on what they do and the lack of comparable competition. For me, resale value isn't much of a factor because I'll be holding on to my Runner until rust claims the frame haha. I've had mine for over 22 months and have put 68K miles on the ODO. I can expect my 4Runner to run. Mile after mile. As long as 4Runners continue to do so, resale value will stay near the top of the North American market.