Wait for 6th gen 4runner?

itr1275 said:
This is what I have heard from a buddy that owns a Toyota.

The next gen 4runner will be launched in the JDM market in late 2018 and arriving in the US in late 2019 for the 2020 model year. This is a complete redesign from the ground up.

Fuel economy and environmental impact are at the front of the new design effort. They are marketing the 6th generation 4runner as family friendly multi-duty people hauler for the adventure. This new platform will retain the same luxury comfort of the current generation while increasing the fuel economy to 32city/25 highway MPG for the SR5 model. They will be following the queues from several of the best selling SUVs on the market, the Nissan Pathfinder, Ford Explorer, Mercedes M-Class, and Honda Ridgeline while exceeding their environmental impact scores.

The motor will be the 23RE motor; the E is for Economy. The power plant is a follow on to the iconic and rock solid 22R motor from the original Toyota Trekker. The configuration is a single turbo 1.8L, 16 valve 4 cylinder. The 23RE motor makes use of high tech variable crank arm and variable valve timing technology to produce 167 HP. These features maximize economy and power, while maintaining a quiet sound level for passenger comfort. The Trail model comes with standard hybrid electric drive motors that adds 33 HP for in town cruising and rock crawling with the Trail model. The total horse power rating is 200 HP with the A/C not engaged.

They only transmission option is the 7 speed automatic with F1-Style paddle shifters as part of the Sport package. The SR5 and Limited drive train will be full time FWD. The Trail model gets a beefy AWD systems with Rock Crawl mode. The 4WD low is replaced by smart electronics and a what is called a torque doubler. The torque doubler is driven by the two high torque electric motors from the hybrid electric drive system. This option is only featured in the Trail. When in Rock Crawling Mode the entire electric drive system, torque doubler, and steering can be controlled from your smart phone while standing outside the truck. This allows the driver to exit the vehicle and safely observe while the vehicle navigates the obstacle.

The archaic body on frame design is replaced by body attached front and rear sub-frames. The body acts as the primary structural support and crash safety cage, with front and rear sub frames for suspension and engine attachment. This keeps integral rigidity for crash safety with the durability of a traditional full frame vehicle. It also lightens the vehicle by 30% from the current generation which helps achieve the new Eco-freindly MPG.

The new lighter chassis combine the high efficiency motor propel the next generation down the 1/4 mile in just over 17 secs. This is a tick slower than the current generation; however, who need to go fast with a car load of kids?

The 4 wheel long travel McPherson Struts suspension will sit atop 225/55R17 Michelin Defender LTX M/S Highway All-Season radials for the SR5 and Trail models. The luxurious Limited model gets a 19" wheel package featuring red pin stripes and General G-MAX AS-03 Ultra High Performance All-Season Radials

If your still reading this and getting upset, look at the title of the post. I'm sure this will be a ground breaking design and can't wait to get one in my garage.:naughty:
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But does it come with tip assist? :crutch:
 
itr1275 said:
This is what I have heard from a buddy that owns a Toyota.

The next gen 4runner will be launched in the JDM market in late 2018 and arriving in the US in late 2019 for the 2020 model year. This is a complete redesign from the ground up.

Fuel economy and environmental impact are at the front of the new design effort. They are marketing the 6th generation 4runner as family friendly multi-duty people hauler for the adventure. This new platform will retain the same luxury comfort of the current generation while increasing the fuel economy to 32city/25 highway MPG for the SR5 model. They will be following the queues from several of the best selling SUVs on the market, the Nissan Pathfinder, Ford Explorer, Mercedes M-Class, and Honda Ridgeline while exceeding their environmental impact scores.

The motor will be the 23RE motor; the E is for Economy. The power plant is a follow on to the iconic and rock solid 22R motor from the original Toyota Trekker. The configuration is a single turbo 1.8L, 16 valve 4 cylinder. The 23RE motor makes use of high tech variable crank arm and variable valve timing technology to produce 167 HP. These features maximize economy and power, while maintaining a quiet sound level for passenger comfort. The Trail model comes with standard hybrid electric drive motors that adds 33 HP for in town cruising and rock crawling with the Trail model. The total horse power rating is 200 HP with the A/C not engaged.

They only transmission option is the 7 speed automatic with F1-Style paddle shifters as part of the Sport package. The SR5 and Limited drive train will be full time FWD. The Trail model gets a beefy AWD systems with Rock Crawl mode. The 4WD low is replaced by smart electronics and a what is called a torque doubler. The torque doubler is driven by the two high torque electric motors from the hybrid electric drive system. This option is only featured in the Trail. When in Rock Crawling Mode the entire electric drive system, torque doubler, and steering can be controlled from your smart phone while standing outside the truck. This allows the driver to exit the vehicle and safely observe while the vehicle navigates the obstacle.

The archaic body on frame design is replaced by body attached front and rear sub-frames. The body acts as the primary structural support and crash safety cage, with front and rear sub frames for suspension and engine attachment. This keeps integral rigidity for crash safety with the durability of a traditional full frame vehicle. It also lightens the vehicle by 30% from the current generation which helps achieve the new Eco-freindly MPG.

The new lighter chassis combine the high efficiency motor propel the next generation down the 1/4 mile in just over 17 secs. This is a tick slower than the current generation; however, who need to go fast with a car load of kids?

The 4 wheel long travel McPherson Struts suspension will sit atop 225/55R17 Michelin Defender LTX M/S Highway All-Season radials for the SR5 and Trail models. The luxurious Limited model gets a 19" wheel package featuring red pin stripes and General G-MAX AS-03 Ultra High Performance All-Season Radials

If your still reading this and getting upset, look at the title of the post. I'm sure this will be a ground breaking design and can't wait to get one in my garage.:naughty:
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225/55/17 tires :lol:
 
Macgeng said:
I really want a 4runner as my next car. Should I wait for the 6th gen? Would be nice if they add a power rear liftgate, push start, ventilated seats, and dual climate control for the trail premium and TRD.
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Those items are nice but I love the 4Runner because it doesn't have all the unnecessary add-ons that other cars have today. All those accessories add weight and complexities that we don't want when off-road. Keep it simple!
 
ToyoT4R said:
Those items are nice but I love the 4Runner because it doesn't have all the unnecessary add-ons that other cars have today. All those accessories add weight and complexities that we don't want when off-road. Keep it simple!
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Agreed, sounds like the GX460.
 
Macgeng said:
I really want a 4runner as my next car. Should I wait for the 6th gen? Would be nice if they add a power rear liftgate, push start, ventilated seats, and dual climate control for the trail premium and TRD.
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And full-length roof racks, a locking gas filler door and window/door controls that are not easily accessible to anyone with a coat hanger. You know, like the 4th gen T4R!
 
ToyoT4R said:
Those items are nice but I love the 4Runner because it doesn't have all the unnecessary add-ons that other cars have today. All those accessories add weight and complexities that we don't want when off-road. Keep it simple!
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LOL.. I posted that back on March of 2015. I went through 3 cars since then (2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude, 2015 Jeep GC SRT, 2016 Range Rover Sport v8 Supercharged) Still waiting to hear about the new generation model. Still a big fan.
 
Jetboy said:
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Thats the overseas made LC Prado or Lexus GX460 in the US. I considered buying the Lexus since we can't get the LC here but I hate the rear barn door like the FJC has. The hatch on the 4R is way better/more functional
 
Macgeng said:
damn.. that would be so badass. supercharged V6 would be pretty dope.
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You thing your mileage is bad now? I have a supercharged car and it's a great way to waste gas ... sitting traffic. I average about 14 mpg in the car. And it only gets worse, on the race track I get 6 MPG in the car. If can actually set the cruise control, on the freeway, I might get 28-30 MPG, but that is very rare.. extremely rare.

The 4runner is the eco vehicle at 16 MPG.

It would be better to go with the 4.6L from the GX or go hybrid and use the electric motors as supplemental power.
 
kgbagent said:
And full-length roof racks, a locking gas filler door and window/door controls that are not easily accessible to anyone with a coat hanger. You know, like the 4th gen T4R!
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Better electronics with real buttons. Limit the touch screen crap. You can't index a touch screen while driving and you have to look at it.

Add in off road info into the LCD, like inclinometers for pitch and roll, GPS location, heading, off road maps (preferably through your phone so you can update them), wheel traction information, and tire PSI. GPS tracking information export option to share with your buddies.

And for he love of God, please do not add touch buttons. They are cool, but if you have a cord near them you change the radio station every time you go around a corner. :redbrick:

A retractable LCD would be nice too.
 
They probably are going to drop the new 3.5L with the new runner.. They wanna iron out all the bugs with the Tacoma first lmao..
 
chmura said:
I would! It does not hurt to wait especially at this stage.

I just cant stand the new front end of the 4runners. I thought it would grow on me, but it has not.
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Same. I just got into 4runners and I find the 14-16 quite "plastic" looking. I think the older model 11-13 looks more beefy if you will. I don't hate them just prefer the older look.
 
Highlander is 20 city 27 highway with the 3.5 v6. 4Runner being heavier and body on frame and true 4x4, I'd say 19 city 23 highway. Is 2 to 3 mpg worth it to wait and pay more than MSRP? Do we even know that 2019 is going to be 6th Gen? What incentive does Toyota have to upgrade if sales keep going up every year?

Could they be waiting to update it the same year as the Ford Bronco comes out so as to better compete?
 
emmantik said:
According to this link there is no redesign until 2021...

Toyota and Lexus Future Plans -- Automotive News

Got it from this thread.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...ent-filing-hybrid-electric-drive-battery.html
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I really, really hope this is the case. I just bought a 2018 and it would be awesome if it stayed new for the next few years. That being said, I used to worry incessantly about things like this and don't as much now. If you always wait to get what you think is the latest and greatest, then you might be waiting forever.
 
Toyota is slow to adopt new tech. I'd bet you a dollar it'll still be a V-6 and it won't be supercharged or anything, they might change the transmission but that's probably about it.
 
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