Want to change 2014 T4R Fog Lights to ion cyrstal/yellow.

[genec]

Hello,

I searched and did not find anything on this. Has anyone been able to locate replacement fog bulbs in ion crystal (piaa) or other performance yellow? I have seen some discussion about possible incorrect info in the manual which says they are H16. Person said they were really H11's, but aren't H11's 55w and the H16's 19w? I had ion crystal H3's in my 98 and they worked very well in the fog laden roads i drive. thanks.

 

[Froggy]

. . . I have seen some discussion about possible incorrect info in the manual which says they are H16. . .

Can't comment on the 2014 but the earlier Gen 5 User Manual was fairly explicit when it came to fog light bulb specifications. The attached is the 2010 version.

 

[Intruder]

I had the ion yellow PIAA bulbs in my stock fog light housings. Waste of money in my opinion. They might let other vehicles see you a bit better but they didn't provide any extra visibility for me. You're better off getting actual driving lights instead I think.

 

[iFosh]

What about some H11 HIDs in 3000k? I was thinking of doing that with my fogs on my '14 when I get it.

 

[PGRunner]

I agree with Intruder. I had Piaa Ion Yellows and they just have a slight tint to the yellow. You would be better off with driving lights or 3k HID's

 

[Keemonrunnin]

Try the luminics yellow H9 or another brand of yellow H9's and do the H9 to H11 mod. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...light-bulb-conversion-h11-h9-9005-9011-a.html

 

[KeithMaine]

I have experimented with this a great deal. Heres how to get yellow fogs: Yellow bulbs and yellow fog light film from Lamin-X. Fog Light Covers | Lamin-x

I used this combo on a new Audi last year and the yellow really pops against the white paint on the car.

 

[genec]

Thanks for all of the replies. I should have added my goal. I drive a ton in fog and a lot of snow in the mtns. I had PIAA H3 ion crystal in my 98. I swear by that slight yellow tint and the boost in W. you see the W boost listed sometimes as 55w = 110w on some bulbs. it helps in the blinding snow just to allow me to see the ridges on the side of the road so i stay "in bounds". the white did not do that for me.

so the real goal is yellow tint at 19w but with an effective W/lumen boost.
[MENTION=51485]Froggy[/MENTION]: that doc is awesome. Mine shows the fogs as 19w Type C with C being H16. The only thing I have found is OSRAM with a yellow tint applied. I see the PIAA 13519 that is ion crystal yellow but they show as "PIAA 13519 Plasma Ion Yellow 55W=110W H16 Bulb". Since the manual shows 19w, I don't think i want to take that risk.

Learning here, I am deducing H16 is just the base/bulb type and there could be H16's with different wattage? anyone know?

right now it seems my options are either these OSRAM or the Lamin-x covers (thanks for the link KeithMaine).

Ironically, while typing this, i received an email from PIAA that the H16 19w should be available Nov 18th. i guess that answers my question above too. I'll post when I get them.

Thanks.

 

[KVA]

Have you thought of "Blue" light for snow?

I run the PIAA Crystal Ion Yellow and they are "OK"...I also have the PIAA Ion Yellow Fogs and some LED yellow fogs - 2000 lumens... I wish the PIAA stuff was brighter and threw more light. Would love an option to replace factory lights with LED Yellow fogs.

Besides that I've got the VisionX Canon driving lights that you can change color at will via the lenses - yellow (fog), blue (snow), red (night vision).

I have Blue and Yellow in both spot and euro configs...these things are bright @ 2500 lumens each.

 

[FrontRange4Runner]

Here is an interesting read on why yellow light is preferred and why blue light can be a bad idea in some cases.
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

 

[KVA]

Here is an interesting read on why yellow light is preferred and why blue light can be a bad idea in some cases.
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

Thanks...interesting. Basically VisionX states the same general conclusion but expands on why blue light can work in pure snow situations.

 

[KVA]

This is most interesting part...got to try it out:

"Good results have been obtained by removing the lamps, cleaning the lenses thoroughly and making sure they're warm, then spraying them with several wet-but-not-drippy coats of Dupli-Color Metalcast yellow. This is a transparent yellow paint product of the correct hue, with good adhesion and durability. Let each coat "flash off" (dry most of the way) before applying the next, and use thin coats so you don't get drips and sags in the wet paint. With each successive coat, the yellow tint will grow deeper. Make it about 2 shades deeper than you think looks right, and it'll turn out well in the end. Of course, the coating needs to be permitted to dry and harden completely before you take the fog lamps out on the road"

 

[eddiebx]

Instead of painting, what I did was just take off the fog light and wrapped it with yellow vinyl (I got mine from R-vinyl); it's been holding up pretty well for over a year already. The color is pretty much a nice solid yellow close to those OEM lexus is300/es300 fog lamps. Keep in mind the film will reduce the light output a tiny bit, but right now I have the H9 bulbs in there in addition to the yellow film so it's probably now at least as bright as a clear lens and H11 bulb.

Here it is close up:


This is how the color looks compared to a regular halogen headlight bulb:


And finally a full frontal shot because I have nothing better to do and already had this picture sitting around, lol:

 

[FrontRange4Runner]

Instead of painting, what I did was just take off the fog light and wrapped it with yellow vinyl (I got mine from R-vinyl); it's been holding up pretty well for over a year already. The color is pretty much a nice solid yellow close to those OEM lexus is300/es300 fog lamps. Keep in mind the film will reduce the light output a tiny bit, but right now I have the H9 bulbs in there in addition to the yellow film so it's probably now at least as bright as a clear lens and H11 bulb.

Good Idea! Is "yellow" would you say the light is? Iv'e been looking into some foul weather lighting for heavy snow storms. Sometimes the headlights basically cause a whiteout type of situation which sucks.

 

[jrandom]

Iv'e been looking into some foul weather lighting for heavy snow storms. Sometimes the headlights basically cause a whiteout type of situation which sucks.

Agreed, IMO it is stupid that you have to have the headlights on in order to use the "fog" lights. I have spent hundreds of hours working/driving (I drove a snowcat in the Wasatch for close to a decade) in white out conditions and less bright == way better visibility.

In fact most often when driving up the canyon to get to work in said blizzards all you really need is your parking lights, a touch brighter would be better but headlights are just plain too bright. I am curious to see what the DRL's on my new 2013 are like.

 

[genec]

installed my PIAA 13509 H16 ion plasma fogs. i like them. wish they were less $$ tho.

 

[syndicate1]

Try the luminics yellow H9 or another brand of yellow H9's and do the H9 to H11 mod. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...light-bulb-conversion-h11-h9-9005-9011-a.html

I recently finished the H9 and H11 headlight conversion and I have to its 10x's better than factory.

Which bulb would I use to convert (upgrade) the factory fog lights to be like the headlights? the H9 or the H11?

Sorry Keemonrunnin, I'm just a bit confused form your post since it mentions both H9 and H11.

Thanks!

 

[eddiebx]

I recently finished the H9 and H11 headlight conversion and I have to its 10x's better than factory.

Which bulb would I use to convert (upgrade) the factory fog lights to be like the headlights? the H9 or the H11?

Sorry Keemonrunnin, I'm just a bit confused form your post since it mentions both H9 and H11.

Thanks!

Our factory fog light is also H11, so you go ahead and do the H9 to H11 again for the fogs as well. This is exactly what I did.

Please note, the fog light housings don't have a glare shield cap covering the tip of the bulb (like in the headlights housings); and the H9 bulb tips are not dipped in opaque paint, soooooooo...it's going to produce a wee bit more glare than with the H11. Proceed at your own risk

 

[eddiebx]

I recently finished the H9 and H11 headlight conversion and I have to its 10x's better than factory.

Which bulb would I use to convert (upgrade) the factory fog lights to be like the headlights? the H9 or the H11?

Sorry Keemonrunnin, I'm just a bit confused form your post since it mentions both H9 and H11.

Thanks!

Ugh, I just realized that this thread is about 2014 fog lamps... Those are H16, not H11...so what I said above does not apply. I was talking about '10-'13 fog lamps, sorry!

 

[syndicate1]

Ugh, I just realized that this thread is about 2014 fog lamps... Those are H16, not H11...so what I said above does not apply. I was talking about '10-'13 fog lamps, sorry!

Damn! I ordered H9 bulbs this morning.

Has anyone converted a ________ (fill in the blank) lamp to H16?