Want to change 2014 T4R Fog Lights to ion cyrstal/yellow.

[eddiebx]

Damn! I ordered H9 bulbs this morning.

Has anyone converted a ________ (fill in the blank) lamp to H16?

Man! I'm really sorry I mis-read your post! I just took a look a picture of the H16 and it looks pretty different from the H9, not sure you can make this work...maybe you can just save the H9s for your headlights?

I think you can expect shorter life span with the H9 to H11 conversion since they are really meant to be used as high beams, so an already modified spare set ready to go would not be such a bad idea. This is exactly what I have on the side, so I don't need to frantically rush to convert a set of H9s for when mine blow out

 

[syndicate1]

Man! I'm really sorry I mis-read your post! I just took a look a picture of the H16 and it looks pretty different from the H9, not sure you can make this work...maybe you can just save the H9s for your headlights?

I think you can expect shorter life span with the H9 to H11 conversion since they are really meant to be used as high beams, so an already modified spare set ready to go would not be such a bad idea. This is exactly what I have on the side, so I don't need to frantically rush to convert a set of H9s for when mine blow out

No worries, good idea. I was thinking the same thing about have spare bulbs handy.

Everything I've read is saying that the fog lights use the H11 bulb. I'll see what's there when the new bulbs show up and let you know.

2011 Toyota 4Runner Replacement Light Bulb Base Sizes

 

[eddiebx]

No worries, good idea. I was thinking the same thing about have spare bulbs handy.

Everything I've read is saying that the fog lights use the H11 bulb. I'll see what's there when the new bulbs show up and let you know.

2011 Toyota 4Runner Replacement Light Bulb Base Sizes

I'm confused, do you have a 2014 or a 2011 4runner?? A 2011 does use the H11 bulb in the fog light; it's the 2014 that does not...

I have a 2012 and have the H9 mod done in my fog lights as well (which are the same exact fog lights that are on the 2011 I believe).

 

[syndicate1]

I'm confused, do you have a 2014 or a 2011 4runner?? A 2011 does use the H11 bulb in the fog light; it's the 2014 that does not...

I have a 2012 and have the H9 mod done in my fog lights as well (which are the same exact fog lights that are on the 2011 I believe).

Confused, I guess that makes two of us. HA! I have a 2011. I should have pointed that out earlier and not presumed Toyota was smart enough to use the same fog light bulbs.

 

[pimpsta]

Throw on some HIDs and call it a day. It's worth it. I have 5K up top and 3K for fog.

 

[KVA]

Or just add more lights...

 

[mace.]

Throw on some HIDs and call it a day. It's worth it. I have 5K up top and 3K for fog.

Do you have any output shots against a wall?

 

[eddiebx]

Confused, I guess that makes two of us. HA! I have a 2011. I should have pointed that out earlier and not presumed Toyota was smart enough to use the same fog light bulbs.

Lol, then I think your good to go with the H9 bulbs you ordered! Should drop right in to your fog lights after you do the mod

Do you have any output shots against a wall?

Something like this probably:

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I'll keep quiet until I see actual pix, lol

 

[dhd1]

Have you thought about yellow Lamin-x?

 

[KVA]

Have you thought about yellow Lamin-x?

See mine above. Doubled the Lamin-x film and using PIAA yellow bulbs (note that they are not on) - still not as colorful as the LEDs in the pic.

 

[pimpsta]

Do you have any output shots against a wall?

Here ya go.

 

[mace.]

Thanks

 

[ksaldibar]

Hey all. I just got my '14 TE 3 weeks ago and wanted some deep yellow fogs similar to the 3000K HIDs I had on my '06, but I was worried about melting the housings / wiring with a higher power setup so I added some yellow lamin-x and Piaa H16 Ion Crystal bulbs. I love the deep yellow that the combination produces to contrast my 5000K HIDs, but there's little usable light. Here's a day and night pic (not the best phone shots) ... For those of you who used an HID kit in lieu of the 19W H16s, have you noticed any fuse / wiring or housing issues?

 

[mscot]

Resurrecting this thread.

I want to replace the fogs on my 2017 but I'm very confused by my searches on this site - yes, I have searched.

Here's my situation and thought pattern:

I only use fog lights for driving in fog and snow. Prior to owning this car I've always been told and experienced that fog lights should be amber to cut through fog and highlight the road in snow. Why are so many people using white lights for their fog lights? Have things changed in the past 7 years?

Since I live in CO and drive in cold/inclement weather. I would assume that continuing to use Halogen bulbs is the best as they put out enough heat to melt any ice/snow that may build up on the lens. Why are people using LEDs, which put out very little heat?

I was about to purchase these: H16 - Nokya Halogen Fog Light Bulbs

Now I'm not so sure. Can anyone educate me on the current state of fog light bulbs?

 

[(none)]

Resurrecting this thread.

I want to replace the fogs on my 2017 but I'm very confused by my searches on this site - yes, I have searched.

Here's my situation and thought pattern:

I only use fog lights for driving in fog and snow. Prior to owning this car I've always been told and experienced that fog lights should be amber to cut through fog and highlight the road in snow. Why are so many people using white lights for their fog lights? Have things changed in the past 7 years?

Since I live in CO and drive in cold/inclement weather. I would assume that continuing to use Halogen bulbs is the best as they put out enough heat to melt any ice/snow that may build up on the lens. Why are people using LEDs, which put out very little heat?

I was about to purchase these: H16 - Nokya Halogen Fog Light Bulbs

Now I'm not so sure. Can anyone educate me on the current state of fog light bulbs?

With good headlights (upgrade those first), the factory fog lights really won't do much no matter which bulbs you put in them.

I am running 4300k HID low beams and Morimoto LED fogs with yellow tinted covers. Fogs on or off, don't make that drastic of a change from the inside while driving. There is some, but its never the difference of "glad I had my fog lights on, otherwise I wouldn't have seen that!"

in other words, run what you want as long as you aren't blinding other drivers.

 

[mscot]

No offense meant here but what's your experience driving in the snow being from GA/FL?
I ask b/c I grew up in GA and the snows there aren't like they are here.

And while I appreciate the feedback on replacing headlights first, I'm also looking to understand the white light and LED questions.

 

[MossJenks]

Since I live in CO and drive in cold/inclement weather. I would assume that continuing to use Halogen bulbs is the best as they put out enough heat to melt any ice/snow that may build up on the lens. Why are people using LEDs, which put out very little heat?

Because they're doing it for this point of view:

Rather than than the driver's point of view.

I have pretty strong opinions on this. Yes they should be yellow and yes they should be halogen to melt the ice off so that they can be useful in bad weather. Ideally you'd rig them so that they can be on without the headlights - so that if you get into a whiteout they'll have a chance of cutting under the fog and you won't have the headlights bouncing back off the snow/fog and blinding you. There must be instructions somewhere around here for doing that. I don't think it's exactly legal but no way you're getting pulled over in a whiteout for running fogs without headlights. Definitely no yellow tint to dim them - just yellow bulbs.

I'm not sure about the cheaper bulbs. I've had PIAA Ion Crystal (now "Plasma Ion" I think) in the past and they're fantastic but very expensive. I'm thinking maybe Hellas to save some money? The bulbs you posted are probably just as good though. Not sure but definitely doing something before the snow flies.

I also will not be replacing my headlights with whiter/bluer bulbs. Too much glare for my tastes.

 

[mscot]

I have pretty strong opinions on this. Yes they should be yellow and yes they should be halogen to melt the ice off so that they can be useful in bad weather. Ideally you'd rig them so that they can be on without the headlights - so that if you get into a whiteout they'll have a chance of cutting under the fog and you won't have the headlights bouncing back off the snow/fog and blinding you. There must be instructions somewhere around here for doing that. I don't think it's exactly legal but no way you're getting pulled over in a whiteout for running fogs without headlights. Definitely no yellow tint to dim them - just yellow bulbs.

I'm not sure about the cheaper bulbs. I've had PIAA Ion Crystal (now "Plasma Ion" I think) in the past and they're fantastic but very expensive. I'm thinking maybe Hellas to save some money? The bulbs you posted are probably just as good though. Not sure but definitely doing something before the snow flies.

I also will not be replacing my headlights with whiter/bluer bulbs. Too much glare for my tastes.

Thank you for this. I'm willing to spend money to do it right. My family rides in this truck with me after all.
Is this what you're talking about: https://www.amazon.com/PIAA-13509-Yellow-Performance-Bulb/dp/B00EUU7FCM

If so, that doesn't seem terribly expensive when people are pissing away $500 for LEDs.
I believe we need the H16 for the 14+. Yes?

I think Antman did a write up on separating the fogs from the driver. I didn't realize they weren't separate to begin with. That's f-ing dumb.

 

[MossJenks]

Yeah, I think so. I have an older model but the Sylvania bulb fitment guide shows H16 for 14+. The PIAA bulb fitment guide doesn't seem to work with is slightly disconcerting.

They're not terribly expensive but more expensive than other options. My biggest hesitation is that I don't have experience with the newer Plasma Ion bulbs. When I got the Audi I just ditched for my 5th gen I had a pair of Ion Crystals sitting on the shelf that were the right size. Before that I added an awesome set of PIAA combo fog/driving fixtures to my 3rd gen. The Ion Crystal bulbs were wild - they looked purple when viewed from head on but cast a strong yellow light on the road from the driver's point of view. I think they changed them to the Plasma Ion bulb because people wanted the yellow "look" when viewed head on. So I'm just not sure what that did to the quality of the lighting from the driver's perspective.

I'm pretty sure they're not separate by federal law. It is totally stupid though because it defeats 80% of their purpose. Yeah, they're nice as they are for significantly widening the lighted area but there's just no substitute for low mounted fog lights in dense fog or heavy snow. They don't get used that way a lot but they're SUPER nice to have when you need them. On my Audi there was no way to separate them unless I totally rewired them - being an Audi it doesn't have basic switches and relays but instead a "central control module" that's a $700 part when it goes out.

Here's Antman's writeup:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/92013-antmans-thread-2.html#post811096

It's a bit of a PITA but probably worth it. I think I'll skip the part of hacking into the instrument cluster and may bypass the factory switch altogether and add my own switch with an indicator light. I love computers but they've made this sort of thing a lot harder - last time I did this mod to a car was a Subaru and all I had to do was run a wire from the fusebox to the existing relay.

 

[mscot]

I may get around to doing the mod but I have a 13 year old and a few weeks worth of work left to get my woodshop finished so it will probably wait until next summer/fall at the earliest.
Thanks for the advice. Ordering those lamps soon.