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As some of you may know, Apple Watch has plethysmograph — it looks and acts like a pulse oximeter. It can measure pulse and oxygen saturation in your blood. Most (including me) assumed that the O2 sensor part is deactivated and awaiting software to turn it on and/or FDA regulation.

But, a very smart Reddit user wrote this: (I bolded what I think is important.)

"I'm a Bio-molecular engineer and sensor design expect, so I guess I'm pretty qualified to answer this. Long ass answer incoming.

So your body has an average amount of O2 in your blood stream.

The rate at which O2 is consumed is directly related to how much ATP is produced by the electron Transport chain in the Mitochondria of your cells.

ATP is pretty much only produced at the rate at which it is needed, aside from maintaining a certain concentration in your cells.

Every time your muscles contract they are using up some ATP and have to replenish it.

So... Every muscle contraction uses ATP, and every breath you take adds more oxygen so more ATP can be made

Since ATP is an energy molecule used by your body as currency, and is directly related to exactly how much oxygen you are consuming, through some calculus we can relate the rate of O2 consumed, and the amount of O2 in your bloodstream to the exact amount of energy you are burning, giving us one of the most accurate calorie counts available.

Let's say that 2.81E22 ATP = 1 Calorie because We also know that one glucose molecule can make 30 ATP. And we know that 685 calories come from exactly 1 mole (6.02 E 23 molecules) of glucose.

We also know that the transport chain that creates ATP uses Oxygen as the final electron acceptor, and generates about 10 NADH molecules and 2 FADH2 molecules we know that PER oxygen used, 2.5 ATP are made from NADH, and 1.5 ATP are made from FADH2. So... that's 30 ATP created, PER 12 Oxygen (O2) used. Doing more math we find that 7.03E22 molecules of oxygen = 1 Calorie (calorie with a big C = food calorie or kcal)

Going off your weight, gender, and height, we can figure out the required basal metabolic rate of your body. Say, you need 1600 Calories to keep your body running if you did nothing except lay in bed and breathe all day.

So during rest, the oxygen in your blood stream will be saturated. If we know the concentration... And we know the flow rate (provided by your pulse) We know exactly how much oxygen is flowing, and thus exactly how much is burned.

If you start working out, the concentration will drop, until you breathe harder and the pulse (flow rate) will increase and we'll see that and say... Well, his oxygen is now being consumed at 7E22 molecules per 10 seconds and that means he's burning 6 Calories Per minute. Combine that with a time (say 30 seconds) and I know you burned EXACTLY 3 calories.

Tl;Dr: the amount of oxygen in your blood * your heart rate * a time interval = directly relates to how many calories are burned.

Edit: to clarify further about why it doesn't need your blood volume, the sensor detects a blood oxygen concentration, and can reasonably approximate the volume because it can be guessed from the amount of flow through the slice of your wrist that the sensor "sees" and the lag time between when you start to lose blood oxygen and the time your heart rate starts to increase. That lag gives you the circulation time from the wrist to the hypothalamus in the brain, which is approximately [some known percentage]% of the total length of circulation. So you can back calculate the total length of circulation to fill in the "missing piece" of the equation."

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So, if the above user is correct, then Apple may already be using the O2 sensor to accurately calculate your calories burned during activity.
 
So it does some of the stuff a cell phone does, just not as well, but on your wrist.

#lifechangedforever

#mindblown

The reviews of this wonky device are also overflowing with Apple propaganda or marveling at common features as if they were revolutionary.

-I used to have to take my cell phone out of my pocket, now instead the text message is on my watch, saving me so much time!
-it taps my arm to inform me of an event or text instead of playing a sound!
-it has a heart rate monitor, I mean what kind of crazy watch has that?!
-it tells me to get off my ass and do shit!

I can't even remember any revolutionary device Apple has made since the iPod (which has since become obsolete with the rise of smart phones).
 
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So it does some of the stuff a cell phone does, just not as well, but on your wrist.

#lifechangedforever

#mindblown

The reviews of this wonky device are also overflowing with Apple propaganda or marveling at common features as if they were revolutionary.

-I used to have to take my cell phone out of my pocket, now instead the text message is on my watch, saving me so much time!
-it taps my arm to inform me of an event or text instead of playing a sound!
-it has a heart rate monitor, I mean what kind of crazy watch has that?!
-it tells me to get off my ass and do shit!

I can't even remember any revolutionary device Apple has made since the iPod (which has since become obsolete with the rise of smart phones).

Yeah, you miss the point of it...as usual. It is strange how you comment on things that you do not understand NOR have personal experience with. I notice that a lot with you and your comments. Why is that? it is like you go out of your way to comment on something that you have no idea about. :crazy: Is it not bad enough to be ignorant of something...and then you go about proving your ignorance to everyone else?
 
Yeah, you miss the point of it...as usual. It is strange how you comment on things that you do not understand NOR have personal experience with. I notice that a lot with you and your comments. Why is that? it is like you go out of your way to comment on something that you have no idea about. :crazy:

I just don't see the massive innovation here.

Like someone looking from the outside at a cult and not understanding how someone ordinary can be seen as an intergalactic rocket car driver from the Marcab Confederacy.
 
I just don't see the massive innovation here.

Like someone looking from the outside at a cult and not understanding how someone ordinary can be seen as an intergalactic rocket car driver from the Marcab Confederacy.

Do you own one? Do you even own iPhone? Do you know what is the significance of a fitness device? Did you even understand my post above regarding oxygen saturation?

If not then the most intelligent thing to do is not say anything.
 
Do you own one? Do you even own iPhone? Do you know what is the significance of a fitness device? Did you even understand my post above regarding oxygen saturation?

If not then the most intelligent thing to do is not say anything.

That's always the typical apple response to everything.

You have a 6k apple desktop that Peter Jackson used to make a movie and it's being used to surf the web.

The iPad is super light, has a retina display, is supposedly used by pro photographers in the field to control aerial drones, but really is just handed over to shut up toddlers.

You have a glorified pulse oximeter and it now will revolutionize personal fitness--no human health, despite the fact most people will buy one to complement their iPhone and use it conspicuously to remind you how great it is.

Apple always do this, they sell some potential that none of their users actually aspire to, but gives them a sense of superiority.

The ipotato watch is just a way of your phone reminding you to check your email and texts, but you now don't have to take it out of your pocket... unless you have to respond and have normal sized fingers...
 
The ipotato watch is just a way of your phone reminding you to check your email and texts, but you now don't have to take it out of your pocket... unless you have to respond and have normal sized fingers...

This quote says everything about your ignorance...you really have no clue about Apple Watch. None what so ever!

As for the rest of your post, i have no idea what you're saying...it just rocks of pure ignorance and blatant bias.
 
That's always the typical apple response to everything.



You have a 6k apple desktop that Peter Jackson used to make a movie and it's being used to surf the web.



The iPad is super light, has a retina display, is supposedly used by pro photographers in the field to control aerial drones, but really is just handed over to shut up toddlers.



You have a glorified pulse oximeter and it now will revolutionize personal fitness--no human health, despite the fact most people will buy one to complement their iPhone and use it conspicuously to remind you how great it is.



Apple always do this, they sell some potential that none of their users actually aspire to, but gives them a sense of superiority.



The ipotato watch is just a way of your phone reminding you to check your email and texts, but you now don't have to take it out of your pocket... unless you have to respond and have normal sized fingers...


You bring up a good point, what's the point of buying shit and not being used, all the fitness stuff on the watch will turn into the exercise equipment in 90% of Americans homes nothing more then wasted money and a coat rack. The I watch will be nothing more then a watch that need to be charged once a day and replaced in a few years.

I am not judging and I don't care if someone is unhealthy but people that buy stuff for the fitness benefits will never use it. So O2, hart rate, gps tracking, Garmen and Sonto do a better job then Apple can ever hope to. With out needing a IPhone to link to.
 
So O2, hart rate, gps tracking, Garmen and Sonto do a better job then Apple can ever hope to. With out needing a IPhone to link to.

Let me help you educate yourself on the topic:

1. How accurate is the Apple Watch's step counter and distance tracking? - CNET

2. Running with the Apple Watch: Yes, you can leave your iPhone behind | ZDNet

Once calibrated (quick calibration), Apple Watch can measure your activity/exercise VERY ACCURATELY.........all withOUT needing the iPhone.
 
The whole idea of Watch (or any smartwatch) is that you do not have to pull out your smartphone so often to check something as simple as time of day or date or how the weather is or stock market prices or how important the text message that you just got. My phone is now in my pocket most of the time or in my desk charging. I only pull it out to play games, surf net, or buy something. Otherwise, it is collecting lint in my pocket. :)

Remember, Apple Watch (and smartwatches in general) costs LESS than a flagship phone. So, which do you want to abuse? Taking your phone out often (thus, degrading battery and display durability??) risks dropping it, losing it, etc.. Apple Watch may be relatively expensive, but it is still cheaper than your smartphone. Yes, you can get the Watch prices to go up if you go for expensive bands and/or case materials, but you get my point. My Watch costs $600. How much for 16gb iPhone 6? 6 PLUS?

For me, i held off upgrading my iPhone and instead bought the Watch.

I definitely see the benefits, was just saying that the benefits don't suit me. The fitness tracking would be pointless to me because the two active things I do the most (climbing and surfing) I'd never wear a watch while doing. Not to mention that when I leave the house these days, I'm actually leaving my phone at home more and more. Realizing there's very few things that cannot wait until I get back. These days I'm gravitating towards things that disconnect me rather than things that help me stay more connected.

Who do I see it benefit? Possibly my gf. She ALWAYS has to wear a watch. Feels naked without on. And she also has one of those Fitbits on the other wrist at all times. Drives me bonkers with all the crap she has on her wrists. I plan on buying her one of the Fitbits with the time on it. I would consider buying the watch for her, but she would destroy it in no time.


I just don't see the massive innovation here.

Like someone looking from the outside at a cult and not understanding how someone ordinary can be seen as an intergalactic rocket car driver from the Marcab Confederacy.

For me personally, I've always gravitated towards Apple products because they just worked and worked well. I'd much rather buy the wheel that works the best (for me) than buy the wheel made first. That doesn't mean I will always own Apple products. If someone makes something better suited for me, then I'll buy it. I've noticed lately that their products have been far buggier than previous products. Not sure if that's because they're getting more popular (so maybe a lack of QC), more complicated, the lack of Steve Jobs around or a combo of any of them.

Funny thing is that in high school, I had a Seiko pager watch. In addition to giving the time and being a pager, it also gave tons of random info like sports scores, weather, stock prices, gold prices (so random) etc etc. So, I guess I may have owned the first smartwatch!
 
This quote says everything about your ignorance...you really have no clue about Apple Watch. None what so ever!

As for the rest of your post, i have no idea what you're saying...it just rocks of pure ignorance and blatant bias.

8 things I learned from wearing an Apple Watch for a couple of weeks - The Oatmeal

This guy buys apple everything because he's modestly rich and a dweeb.

He can afford a Tesla for shits and giggles.

While he's not an industry authority, he more or less sums up the good and bad issues of a iWatch.

I use a cheap G-shock because muzzle brakes have destroyed every other watch I own.

I had LOTS of apple stuff because my ex wife bought into the hype and had to get the next best thing every year and I got the handmedowns because I'm cheap and they worked fine. I even got the watch thingy she pre-ordered, but never played with it when I saw what it was going for on ebay and sold it to buy a rifle upper.
 
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8 things I learned from wearing an Apple Watch for a couple of weeks - The Oatmeal

This guy buys apple everything because he's modestly rich and a dweeb.

He can afford a Tesla for shits and giggles.

While he's not an industry authority, he more or less sums up the good and bad issues of a iWatch.

I use a cheap G-shock because muzzle brakes have destroyed every other watch I own.

I had LOTS of apple stuff because my ex wife bought into the hype and had to get the next best thing every year and I got the handmedowns because I'm cheap and they worked fine. I even got the watch thingy she pre-ordered, but never played with it when I saw what it was going for on ebay and sold it to buy a rifle upper.

Did you just get divorce?

Happy that you have a cheap G-shock...what does that have to do with this again?

Hype? Want to hear hype? Head over to Android...oh wait, you're there already...and you talk about hype?!

For someone who has no interest (and blatant bias against Apple), you sure spend a lot of time researching it. :crazy:

But, now that you have read some, i hope that you realize how ignorant your previous statements were regarding it. Hint: there is no keyboard. :rockon:
 
My watch stand:
 

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Beautiful watches. Quality high-end movements except for the Oris. For me and my wife, both our Rolexes are collecting dust in closet. We are satisfy with Apple Watch.

Are these your watches? I would feel really embarrass if I posted pics like these and NOT own a single one.

By the way, you may want to read title of thread. Otherwise, someone may think that you are a fool.
 
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