watches...

[hikenbike]

dial is too busy IMHO,
Titanium easily scratched, keep that in mind. I hated my titanium watches because of that.
I`d go with this
or that

Very nice suggestions.....especially like the first one. Will consider it.

I heard that the Citizens that use titanium do a good job at applying a coating that provides some scratch resistance.

Thanks

 

[hikenbike]

Nice but I like the black one better than silver ....

Citizen Men's AT4007-54E Perpetual Chrono A-T Watch: Watches: Amazon.com

Black does look great but I wanted a bit more subtle look on the wrist. Will be used for everyday and business settings.

Thanks

 

[hikenbike]

Any thoughts on this Hamilton?.....

Hamilton Men's H37512131 Jazzmaster Seaview Black Chronograph Dial Watch: Watches: Amazon.com

 

[Ol'Blue]

Any thoughts on this Hamilton?.....

Hamilton Men's H37512131 Jazzmaster Seaview Black Chronograph Dial Watch: Watches: Amazon.com

Out of all of them the Hamilton is the better choice I feel. It is made better with better components. IMO

Blue

 

[hikenbike]

Out of all of them the Hamilton is the better choice I feel. It is made better with better components. IMO

Blue

Thanks. Can you elaborate a bit more on that?

I think its a fantastic looking watch. May go take a look at one today.

 

[1engineer]

Here is one of my "dress" watches Citizen Men's BJ2135-00E Eco-Drive Promaster Carbon Rubber Strap Imperial Dive Watch: Watches: Amazon.com and here is one of my "daily" watches Casio Men's G9300-1 Mudman G-Shock Shock Resistant Multi-Function Sport Watch: Watches: Amazon.com which is on my wrist quite often. My all time favorite is this Citizen Men's BJ8050-08E Eco-Drive Professional Diver Black Rubber Strap Watch: Watches: Amazon.com which I have been wearing so long the paint has worn off a lot of the bezel lol. It is a tough watch. It is also a heavy watch. I brushed a tree trunk with it during a high speed section of my normal trail ride. It gouged the bark and bruised my wrist. I do not wear it to ride anymore needless to say. I stick to the Casios when riding.

 

[Jumpkix]

I've wanted an Omega watch ever since using it to blow up proximity mines in Goldeneye lol! :gun4:

Seriously though, love the look and feel of an Omega Seamaster. Would probably shell out the money for one if I could get a great fit.

For me, watches are just one of those great things/experiences that I enjoy. Same with a great pair of sunglasses, and a good old fashioned straight razor shave. Not to get off topic, but I highly recommend trying that at least once.

 

[KSWAY]

I traded one of my watches for my 4runner:biggrin1:

 

[Thai]

You right from now on I`ll be wearing my other watch to the range.

I do everything with my Breitling - I bought it for that reason, knowing that I could.

My job forces me to live in the dirt, cold, rain, snow, etc. If my watch suddenly decides to give up the ghost because it's -25, I smack it on a tree, and it shatters (which I doubt), I've already gotten my money's worth out of it.

Victor_inox, it is not a sure thing that your mechanical watch will break with gun range sessions. See RandyDaytona's experience.

However, if you think about it, then an average mechanical watch has about 150-200 parts to it (for a simple uncomplicated movement). The shock absorbers are not rocket science. Any high torque motion/movement may disturb the timing of the moving parts. That is why, if you go on watch forums, then you will see people cautioning against gun ranges and even golfing!

My Rolex, your Omega, RandyDaytona's Breitling will all do great in snow, rain, cold, hot, etc.. That is NOT where a mechanical watch will fail. Severe shock and high torque situation will increase your likelihood that either your timing is affected OR it goes kaput. Quartz watch internals are a lot tougher.

In the market for a new watch with a $500-700 budget.

I have heard also that Citizen does a good job with their titanium. I love my Seiko titanium, but it is a scratch magnet...but man, it is feather light! The problem I also have with titanium is the bracelets tend to feel cheap...and in my Seiko, noisy.

The other thing I warn people about is the anti-reflective coating that is very popular these days. I believe that your Citizen has it from reading Amazon description. Sure, it looks amazing in the showroom...crystal clear at all angles! BUT, the coating is a coating, which means that if you hit on something, that coating may get scratched. So, even though you seek out sapphire crystal to prevent scratching, your glass will be very scratchable because the coating scratches...quite easily too. The sapphire underneath the coating will be fine, but your watch face will not look good over time. I hate it!! The coating is NOT replaceable...in other words, the manufacturer will replace your crystal instead of re-coating it...aka lots of money! On my Omega, I actually sanded the coating off. That way, I can have a pristine crystal forever instead of worrying about scratches. (I think that is why Rolex has stay away from these anti-reflective coatings. Omega and Breitling are huge fans of it.) Ideally, I just want an anti-reflective coating on the INSIDE of the crystal, but no one does that anymore. When Omega first started with these coatings, it was only on the inside surface which was great, but it did not create the showroom WOW of a double-coated sapphire crystal (both sides).

 

[Ol'Blue]

Thanks. Can you elaborate a bit more on that?

I think its a fantastic looking watch. May go take a look at one today.

This is how I buy watches and judge them. First thing for me is the movement with any quality watch(what is inside of it). This watch has the ETA 251.272 QUARTZ movement in it. It is a good quality movement that will last. It will run +/- 15 seconds a month about. So to put it numbers term it will only fall off about .5 sec a day if that, or it might gain .5 sec a day. That is pretty darn good.

When you are buying what I will call better watches allot of them use the same movements, Swiss Quarts movements. So example of this is Tag,High End Citizens, ESQ, and the list goes on, even some of the Omega's.

When looking at a very nice watch you will see the movement "sweep". That is because it makes so many ticks a second it is hard for the human eye to see it. You get that sweeping effect. Normally those are in the 2-allot of money range.

Once the movement is put in the case the rest is just looks and fit and finish and personal preference. Color, Band type, Medal type etc etc.

You can see the quality of the Hamilton just by looking at it. It might be a little more than others but it will last you a very long time. This is not a throw away watch that can't be fixed if something dose break. You will have to find a quality jeweler to do the maint. on this. Every 2-5 years is about what you will look at.

Hope this helps.

Blue

 

[Thai]

Blue... Hamilton above is a quartz movement I think.

 

[hikenbike]

This is how I buy watches and judge them. First thing for me is the movement with any quality watch(what is inside of it). This watch has the ETA 251.272 QUARTZ movement in it. It is a good quality movement that will last. It will run +/- 15 seconds a month about. So to put it numbers term it will only fall off about .5 sec a day if that, or it might gain .5 sec a day. That is pretty darn good.

When you are buying what I will call better watches allot of them use the same movements, Swiss Quarts movements. So example of this is Tag,High End Citizens, ESQ, and the list goes on, even some of the Omega's.

When looking at a very nice watch you will see the movement "sweep". That is because it makes so many ticks a second it is hard for the human eye to see it. You get that sweeping effect. Normally those are in the 2-allot of money range.

Once the movement is put in the case the rest is just looks and fit and finish and personal preference. Color, Band type, Medal type etc etc.

You can see the quality of the Hamilton just by looking at it. It might be a little more than others but it will last you a very long time. This is not a throw away watch that can't be fixed if something dose break. You will have to find a quality jeweler to do the maint. on this. Every 2-5 years is about what you will look at.

Hope this helps.

Blue

Helps a lot. Thanks.

Now let me throw in another wrinkle......I work in midtown Manhattan where there are tons of places that sell high-end CPO watches.....Tourneau as an example.

What's the take y'all have on venturing down this path? I plan to explore but only with someone that really "knows" watches and what to look out for.

 

[Ol'Blue]

Blue... Hamilton above is a quartz movement I think.

Yes it is a Quartz. It will run for a long time if taken care of.


Hikeandbike,

Like I said before. I try not to get hung up on the brand. Think of it like a car. I'm more worried about the motor and trans than the body and color of the paint. The cosmetics can be fixed up.

Do some hunting around and find a watch forum. There are a few out there. Read up on the different types of movements and jewels in the different movements. That will put you way ahead of the game. There are movements that are tried and true and pretty much bomb proof like the Quartz.

Blue

 

[1engineer]

Helps a lot. Thanks.

Now let me throw in another wrinkle......I work in midtown Manhattan where there are tons of places that sell high-end CPO watches.....Tourneau as an example.

What's the take y'all have on venturing down this path? I plan to explore but only with someone that really "knows" watches and what to look out for.

Stop and think for a minute: How many "high end" watches such as Rolex, Tag, Doxa and others are sold each year? Not many is the answer. Most who buy these watches keep them forever too. There might be "tons" of shops who sell watches but very few are CPO high end watches because there is just not that many out there. What might be high end to them is not high end to me.

 

[Victor_inox]

Helps a lot. Thanks.

Now let me throw in another wrinkle......I work in midtown Manhattan where there are tons of places that sell high-end CPO watches.....Tourneau as an example.

What's the take y'all have on venturing down this path? I plan to explore but only with someone that really "knows" watches and what to look out for.

Tourneau is a great place to feel a watch, not buying it unless you want to pay retail as almost none of them will sell with discount but you can be 100% sure it will be genuine piece, market full of fakes, replica as crooks calling it.
go register on watchyouseek forum, you will gain a lot of knowledge.

 

[Victor_inox]

Stop and think for a minute: How many "high end" watches such as Rolex, Tag, Doxa and others are sold each year? Not many is the answer. Most who buy these watches keep them forever too. There might be "tons" of shops who sell watches but very few are CPO high end watches because there is just not that many out there. What might be high end to them is not high end to me.

true that,
for a watch enthusiast Tag, omega ,rolex, hamilton is far from hi end.
this is hi end:High-end watches
I like this one

maybe one day i could afford it.

 

[stanleybb50]

Man... All this talk of 'high end' sounds like 'staus' rather than the quality of the movements... Just saying..

Or rarity, materials, etc. Am I right? What's not good about the movements in my Movado, it my Seiko 5? Not "high end", but not paying out the a** with my middle class money either

 

[hikenbike]

Stop and think for a minute: How many "high end" watches such as Rolex, Tag, Doxa and others are sold each year? Not many is the answer. Most who buy these watches keep them forever too. There might be "tons" of shops who sell watches but very few are CPO high end watches because there is just not that many out there. What might be high end to them is not high end to me.

I don't necessarily agree. I'd bet the Wall Street types (who don't give time to truly appreciate anything) probably turn around watches like they chew gum so they always have the latest and greatest or to change a look. These are toys to them.

Either way, I think I'm taking this down a notch anyway. I've never worn watches because I've never been comfortable with them or any kind of jewelry but I'd like to start. Rather than aim high, I think I'm going to start with something like this that is light, simple, and modest to see if I take to it......

Citizen Men's CA0020-05E Eco Drive Strap Watch: Watches: Amazon.com

Will then upgrade from there if I feel the urge. I may or may not. One step at a time. The help and comments from all of you is truly appreciated.

 

[Victor_inox]

Man... All this talk of 'high end' sounds like 'staus' rather than the quality of the movements... Just saying..

Or rarity, materials, etc. Am I right? What's not good about the movements in my Movado, it my Seiko 5? Not "high end", but not paying out the a** with my middle class money either

you obviously not a watch guy or you would understand why some pieces is high end and others just made to show approximate time.
nothing wrong with your movado or seiko5. out two of them i`d prefer seiko, movado is too girly for my blood.
BTW Precious metals has very little to contribute to the price of the fine watch.
Often resell price of stainless steel Rolex sub is higher then solid 18k gold cased one.

 

[stanleybb50]

true that,
for a watch enthusiast Tag, omega ,rolex, hamilton is far from hi end.
this is hi end:High-end watches
I like this one

maybe one day i could afford it.

Are you saying Tag, Omega, and Rolex are NOT "high end"? Or is your grammar just referring to Hamilton only??

you obviously not a watch guy or you would understand why some pieces is high end and others just made to show approximate time.
nothing wrong with your movado or seiko5. out two of them i`d prefer seiko, movado is too girly for my blood.
BTW Precious metals has very little to contribute to the price of the fine watch.
Often resell price of stainless steel Rolex sub is higher then solid 18k gold cased one.

The Movado was from my wife for a wedding present. Not "manly", but I love it due to it being from my wife, and that's what my Seiko 5 Sport is for.

I'm still wondering why you say some pieces are "high end" and I still say it's status, rarity, "maker" (some old a** dudes hand making/etc) that makes a watch "high end". Kinda like a ridiculous designer purse for women, or all their "high end" clothes.... Tell me I'm wrong?

Define a "watch guy" for me please... Do you mean that I'm not a "watch snob"??