Looks good, cheap, easy to swap out for a different color nylon or leather band. I don't worry about it getting wet or sweaty and I can wash it if it gets dirty or smelly. In addition, since the nylon is a single piece that passes through both spring bars, if one spring bar breaks then the watch will stay on your wrist.
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Looks good, cheap, easy to swap out for a different color nylon or leather band. I don't worry about it getting wet or sweaty and I can wash it if it gets dirty or smelly. In addition, since the nylon is a single piece that passes through both spring bars, if one spring bar breaks then the watch will stay on your wrist.
Thai
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Ahh...thanks! Makes sense. Always wondered what was the attraction. Thanks!
hikenbike
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You'll love this and how this thread had taken off..........
Everyone in the room had an apple watch except me.
Thai
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I read beginning and end...some ignorance in there...but typical of Watchuseek.
It got boring. Anything you want to point out?Although Swiss has been making watches since beginning of time, you will be surprise at how well Apple has gotten the details right in this first attempt...see their watch bands...most of which are better than their Swiss counterparts in design and quality. The Apple Watch fluoroelastomer band is superior to ANYTHING on the market right now...disclaimer: i have not seen Rolex latest rubber band. The leather band (pics above) is a work of art. Their metal band is simply amazing in feel and ease of taking out links! I can exchange bands in less than 5 seconds without a scratch on the lugs.
Look at the Swiss "copy" of Apple Watch on previous page (H. Moser & Cie.’s Swiss Alp Watch) and compare that to the real Apple Watch. The details are better on the Apple Watch. The lugs are perfectly spaced compared to the Swiss. The leather band also much better integrated. And this is what you get for $25,000 from Swiss hand-made factory??!! Shit, i take a Rolex over that POS!
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Thai
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Uh oh, this can't be good for Swiss:
Link #1: Apple Watch beats Rolex in luxury brands ranking
"The Apple Watch has displaced Rolex on a list of luxury global brands, as measured by analytics firm NetBase, measuring social media mentions and consumer sentiment from more than 700 million posts between 2014 and 2015.
The Apple Watch took the no. 1 place in the list’s “watches” category — made all the more impressive by the fact that it was the only smartwatch featured. Other watchmakers it outranked included Tag Heuer, Richemont, Curren and Patek Phillippe."
Link #2: Swiss watch exports fell for the first time since the financial crisis - Quartz
"Bloomberg blames everything from slumping Hong Kong tourism to China’s corruption crackdown to the Apple Watch for the woeful state of the Swiss watch industry. But zoom in, and you’ll see that Swiss exports—watches included—have been declining for months."
Link #1: Apple Watch beats Rolex in luxury brands ranking
"The Apple Watch has displaced Rolex on a list of luxury global brands, as measured by analytics firm NetBase, measuring social media mentions and consumer sentiment from more than 700 million posts between 2014 and 2015.
The Apple Watch took the no. 1 place in the list’s “watches” category — made all the more impressive by the fact that it was the only smartwatch featured. Other watchmakers it outranked included Tag Heuer, Richemont, Curren and Patek Phillippe."
Link #2: Swiss watch exports fell for the first time since the financial crisis - Quartz
"Bloomberg blames everything from slumping Hong Kong tourism to China’s corruption crackdown to the Apple Watch for the woeful state of the Swiss watch industry. But zoom in, and you’ll see that Swiss exports—watches included—have been declining for months."
hikenbike
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Thai
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Nice. What is the movement? Still ETA-based? How much?
Thai
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Brand: IWC
Reference: 35111
Base: Sellita SW300-1
Movement: Automatic
Display: Analog
Diameter: 25.60
Jewels: 25
Reserve: 38
Frequency: 28800
Date: Date
Hands: Hours, Minutes, Seconds
Description
IWC version of Sellita SW300-1, developed and constructed by Sellita, according to IWC specification.
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Cost $3950 base. SW300-1 is a clone of ETA 2892 I think.
$4k watch with a relatively cheap generic movement. :yell:
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Thai
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Fyi. More on the Sellita movements: Sellita Further Targets ETA With the SW300 And SW500 Watch Movements | aBlogtoWatch
Basically, they are making replacements of ETA movements.
Basically, they are making replacements of ETA movements.
hikenbike
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Oris uses a ton of Sellita as well as ETA but it is really a clone to the point that they make it very unclear as to which exactly is in your watch. The spec listings for many of their watches will often show - Movement: X or Y because they are so similar. Fairly generic, average workhorse movements.
That IWC up there is a $400 watch with a luxury brand name.
CombatBevo
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Guns & Watches
After reading through 15+ pages; here’s my little collection……Yes I’m a G-Shock Fan-Boy……Plus the Hole Shot that was given to us by Oakley to test out in the Sand-Box….Which faired very well by the way; even in a high shock/vibration element like the M2A3 BLK III BFV……
After reading through 15+ pages; here’s my little collection……Yes I’m a G-Shock Fan-Boy……Plus the Hole Shot that was given to us by Oakley to test out in the Sand-Box….Which faired very well by the way; even in a high shock/vibration element like the M2A3 BLK III BFV……
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Thai
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LOL, a watch matched to every gun! :gun6:
hikenbike
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Gotta say.....I'm neither a gun or GShock fan.......but that's a cool post. Well done!
stanleybb50
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I just picked up one of these on a trade via forums. Still on the way to me, but I'm pretty pumped! Condition is supposed to be new in box and from his pics, it looks that way.
I know Oakley watches won't get any respect, but I'm excited and like the way it looks! It's just a battery/quartz movement.
These are pics I found from Google searches.
I know Oakley watches won't get any respect, but I'm excited and like the way it looks! It's just a battery/quartz movement.
These are pics I found from Google searches.
Thai
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Interesting article: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/why-jack-forsters-cant-take-off-the-apple-watch
My wife and I have not touched our high-end Swiss since owning Apple Watch. My brother has Rolex DeepSea and GMTIIc in safe while wearing his Apple Watch daily.
Some quotes from link:
"Having worn an Apple Watch almost exclusively for the last month, I feel absolutely confident that mechanical watches aren’t going anywhere for now. But the Apple Watch isn’t either. It’s almost improbably well done, and it shows a willingness to think creatively that ought to be heeded by the luxury watch industry – and it also suggests to me that underestimating its impact, and Apple, is dangerous.
Conventional wisdom has it that the Apple Watch is only really a threat to quartz and mechanical watches in a comparable price range. I’m not sure that’s true, and there are several reasons. One place the threat is most obvious might surprise you: the bracelet of the black DLC-coated Watch. This is probably the single best designed bracelet I’ve ever seen on any watch, period. It’s astonishingly intelligently designed and should have the watch industry really worried.
In dismissing the Apple Watch – or in rushing to market with poorly thought out, or obviously overpriced and cynically designed smartwatches – I think the Swiss watch industry is missing something, which is that Cupertino may understand luxury better than Europe right now. If that bracelet had been designed in Switzerland it would probably have added four figures to the cost of the watch it came on, and I'm not sure that there is a watch brand in Switzerland with the imagination to design something like this right now.
The big picture, though, is that you get something that has enormous thought put into every detail – both hardware and software – to such an extent that it would be oppressive if it weren't in general so good. What scares me about luxury watchmaking nowadays is that it often forgets that good design, and getting the details right, still matter. Yes, luxury is storytelling to some extent, but that often turns into products and companies that over-deliver on marketing and under-deliver on product quality, and when the gap between the story and the product becomes too noticeable people simply lose interest.
I think the Apple Watch is winning the smartwatch wars right now for several reasons: better UI is one (I struggle to find Android Wear compelling, in any form, at least so far) and its ability to keep your phone in your pocket, and your head up, is another. One of its biggest secrets, though, is this: it shows every indication of having been made by people who love and understand watches, and who know that for any kind of wearable to succeed, it has to be love at first sight. And that's why it's not only a threat to other smartwatches, but to mechanical watchmaking. It’s a truism in watchmaking that the face sells the watch, but that truism is based on something bigger, which is that for something you’re going to have on your skin all day, you decide in microseconds, and with your heart, not your head, whether it’s for you. I used the word “seduced” several times in writing about Apple Watch, because its ability to be instantly seductive is the reason you give everything else about it a chance. The Apple Watch is seductive; Google Glass was not, and the rest is history.
Apple’s actually succeeded in doing with the Apple Watch what they did with the iPhone: inventing a new experience. Whether that experience is one ultimately more compelling than the one offered by mechanical watches, nobody knows. What I don't think the luxury watch world can afford is complacency. If it fails to realize that what the Apple Watch actually offers is not competition, but a convincing alternative experience – and if it doesn't take the hint that luxury is ultimately about attention to detail, not marketing or price point – it could be in serious trouble."
My wife and I have not touched our high-end Swiss since owning Apple Watch. My brother has Rolex DeepSea and GMTIIc in safe while wearing his Apple Watch daily.
Some quotes from link:
"Having worn an Apple Watch almost exclusively for the last month, I feel absolutely confident that mechanical watches aren’t going anywhere for now. But the Apple Watch isn’t either. It’s almost improbably well done, and it shows a willingness to think creatively that ought to be heeded by the luxury watch industry – and it also suggests to me that underestimating its impact, and Apple, is dangerous.
Conventional wisdom has it that the Apple Watch is only really a threat to quartz and mechanical watches in a comparable price range. I’m not sure that’s true, and there are several reasons. One place the threat is most obvious might surprise you: the bracelet of the black DLC-coated Watch. This is probably the single best designed bracelet I’ve ever seen on any watch, period. It’s astonishingly intelligently designed and should have the watch industry really worried.
In dismissing the Apple Watch – or in rushing to market with poorly thought out, or obviously overpriced and cynically designed smartwatches – I think the Swiss watch industry is missing something, which is that Cupertino may understand luxury better than Europe right now. If that bracelet had been designed in Switzerland it would probably have added four figures to the cost of the watch it came on, and I'm not sure that there is a watch brand in Switzerland with the imagination to design something like this right now.
The big picture, though, is that you get something that has enormous thought put into every detail – both hardware and software – to such an extent that it would be oppressive if it weren't in general so good. What scares me about luxury watchmaking nowadays is that it often forgets that good design, and getting the details right, still matter. Yes, luxury is storytelling to some extent, but that often turns into products and companies that over-deliver on marketing and under-deliver on product quality, and when the gap between the story and the product becomes too noticeable people simply lose interest.
I think the Apple Watch is winning the smartwatch wars right now for several reasons: better UI is one (I struggle to find Android Wear compelling, in any form, at least so far) and its ability to keep your phone in your pocket, and your head up, is another. One of its biggest secrets, though, is this: it shows every indication of having been made by people who love and understand watches, and who know that for any kind of wearable to succeed, it has to be love at first sight. And that's why it's not only a threat to other smartwatches, but to mechanical watchmaking. It’s a truism in watchmaking that the face sells the watch, but that truism is based on something bigger, which is that for something you’re going to have on your skin all day, you decide in microseconds, and with your heart, not your head, whether it’s for you. I used the word “seduced” several times in writing about Apple Watch, because its ability to be instantly seductive is the reason you give everything else about it a chance. The Apple Watch is seductive; Google Glass was not, and the rest is history.
Apple’s actually succeeded in doing with the Apple Watch what they did with the iPhone: inventing a new experience. Whether that experience is one ultimately more compelling than the one offered by mechanical watches, nobody knows. What I don't think the luxury watch world can afford is complacency. If it fails to realize that what the Apple Watch actually offers is not competition, but a convincing alternative experience – and if it doesn't take the hint that luxury is ultimately about attention to detail, not marketing or price point – it could be in serious trouble."
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Mandelbaum
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I own a G-Shock and love it. My Invicta by all means should be destroyed but it's still ticking.
Thai
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Swiss continues to decline: With 63% share, Apple Watch pushes global smartwatch shipments past Swiss watches for first time
It looks like smartwatches, esp Apple Watch, are hurting Swiss badly.
It looks like smartwatches, esp Apple Watch, are hurting Swiss badly.
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