What Type of Tires On Your 4Runner?

[charlier180]

I will be getting the LTs because I will be towing and could use the stiffer ride and its ability to handle heavier loads better. Koz

When my stock Dunlops need to be replaced I will be looking at the LT Revos as well.
By then, my Blizzaks may also be worn out and I can get the LTs and keep them on all year long.

Koz, when you do get the LTs for your 4Runner please post and let us know how they perform for you especially in poor weather conditions and when towing.

BTW, according to the Tirerack web site these LTs should be available any day now. Also they look to be about $28 more per tire than the REVOs with the passenger car rating.

 

[Koz]

When my stock Dunlops need to be replaced I will be looking at the LT Revos as well.
By then, my Blizzaks may also be worn out and I can get the LTs and keep them on all year long.

Koz, when you do get the LTs for your 4Runner please post and let us know how they perform for you especially in poor weather conditions and when towing.

BTW, according to the Tirerack web site these LTs should be available any day now. Also they look to be about $28 more per tire than the REVOs with the passenger car rating.

I have a set on my Taco and they are the best tires I've ever had on a truck.

Koz

 

[Bluto]

The REVOs that are offered for the 4th gen T4R (265/65+70/17s) are passenger P rated tires. Soon the 265/70/17 Light Truck (E load range & have the same dementions as the 265/65/17 P rated) will be available.

P265/70/17 = 31.7" diameter - 7.8" tread width - 13/32 tread depth
P265/65/17 = 30.5" diameter - 8" tread width - 13/32" tread depth
LT265/70/17 = 30.6" diameter - 8.2 tread width - 1/2" tread depth - E load rating (10 ply)- more aggressive tread pattern - side wall that extends to propect the rims from rock damage.

I will be getting the LTs because I will be towing and could use the stiffer ride and its ability to handle heavier loads better.

Koz

Bridgestone list 31.6" for the LT. I don't think tiresack has it correct. :

 

[Falls]

KOZ , Why not get the 265/70/17's ? It seem's that size work's well on the 4R's and look's a little better too.

 

[Koz]

Bridgestone list 31.6" for the LT. I don't think tiresack has it correct. :

Thanks Bluto, It was my typo! I edited my post. I got the specs from the Bridgestone site.

Koz

 

[JB.]

BFG AT KO

Can't add much to Olliebear's statement.

Don't take this the wrong way (It's just my opinion) but the REVO does everything better then the KO except off-road abuse. Koz

I'd go for more things better.

The snowflake would seem to argue for better snow performance in the KO. Unreliable impressions aside (anyone's), just looking at the tread, one would conclude better off road traction too, although, maybe not a large difference.

I take a very concrete view of evidence. Outside of experts or VERY experienced people, I don't trust impressions much (my own included). For the KO, that leaves me with 6 plies, snowflake, chunky tread, and a bazillion in service with no obvious, large problems. I now have something concrete for REVOS in the recent Consumer Reports testing. They performed extremely well but, interestingly, just good - (Exc-VeryGood-Good-Fair-Poor) in snow.


I can't wait till the REVO LTs are available for the 4Runner.
Koz

Me neither, although, with the price difference, I'd also be interested in seeing the Nitto Terra Grapplers available like that.

REVOS are undoubtedly a better choice for most people, but tires are a very personal and duty specific tool. When I'm out in the desert 15 miles from even a graded dirt road driving on a bed of rocks, I'm very happy to have the extra plies. Ditto for the snowflake in winter.

 

[Mixed4u]

Got my '05 SE V8 2WD Galactic Gray. Last August. It came with the GrandTrek AT20's. I have the tires rotated at every 5K service. 4Runner has a little over 15K right now. I live in SoCal where the weather ranges from great to mild and I don't take the 4Runner off-road. I just drive it around, keep it details every week and look at it alot...ALOT!!! The tires seem to be pretty much still new and the ride is fine, but I don't have anything to compare them to. I kind of want them to hurry up and wear out so that I can justify upgrading the wheels/tires. I ordered my 4Runner with that big fat factory rear spoiler, Valor tip, moonroof and that Sport Bumper Trim piece. I switched out the headlights for the SilverStars a couple of days ago during the 15K Service at the dealer. I think I'm getting the 4Runner fever. This is my 3rd 4Runner in 18 months. I'm going to hang on to this one for awhile.

 

[CuzzinOlaf]

I picked up a set of Bridgestone Dueler AT 693s. They are the almost the same tire as the Revos but the version before. This being the case I got them for just over $500 mounted and balanced with the road hazard warranty.

 

[Pirate VI]

Ive got the stock Michelin Cross Terrains, but how come some trucks come with one brand while the others come with another? are the michelins optional over the dunlops?

 

[Koz]

BFG AT KO

Can't add much to Olliebear's statement.



I'd go for more things better.

The snowflake would seem to argue for better snow performance in the KO. Unreliable impressions aside (anyone's), just looking at the tread, one would conclude better off road traction too, although, maybe not a large difference.

I take a very concrete view of evidence. Outside of experts or VERY experienced people, I don't trust impressions much (my own included). For the KO, that leaves me with 6 plies, snowflake, chunky tread, and a bazillion in service with no obvious, large problems. I now have something concrete for REVOS in the recent Consumer Reports testing. They performed extremely well but, interestingly, just good - (Exc-VeryGood-Good-Fair-Poor) in snow.


I can't wait till the REVO LTs are available for the 4Runner.
Koz

Me neither, although, with the price difference, I'd also be interested in seeing the Nitto Terra Grapplers available like that.

REVOS are undoubtedly a better choice for most people, but tires are a very personal and duty specific tool. When I'm out in the desert 15 miles from even a graded dirt road driving on a bed of rocks, I'm very happy to have the extra plies. Ditto for the snowflake in winter.

The worst quality of the KO is that they suck in deep snow and ice (I

 

[JB.]

The worst quality of the KO is that they suck in deep snow and ice (I

 

[Baba Booey]

I am going to have a tough time deciding when my OEM Bridgestone H/Ts give up.

I've read lots about the REVOs, Cross Terrains, Terra Grapplers and BFG KOs.

However, I may be inclined to give these Nokians a try. I use another style of their snow tires on my Subaru sedan, and they have been fantastic.

These are "all-weather" tires from Finland, and they are severe (snow) service rated all-seasons:



Nokian WRs

Any thoughts?

 

[RonMAIDEN]

Got a bit over 1000 miles on my Terra Grapplers and I really like them and they are good in the snow and ice and they resist hydroplaning quite well which is way more than I can say for the two sets of BFG A/Ts I've driven on.
I also like the fact that everybody doesn't have the Nittos.

I've had the Nittos off road twice and are on par with the Yok Geolandar AT+IIs I had on my '97 Runner which they performed nicely.

 

[olliebear]

Snow and Mud and Gravel varies.

Just as the Eskimos have 200 words for snow, there are varying types of snow and ice. Thick smooth ice which no tires will have traction without studs, to packed snow driven over by numerosu vehciles, to loose dry fluff, to deep powder, to wet pack, to fluff pack with ice on op.

Mud varies from waterlogged dirt, to water wet sand, to watery gravel, to clay soup, to clay-dough, to thick clay gumbo that will clog up and turn TSL Boggers into slicks, to stuff that is slikcer than oil and dries to harder than concrete on your tires nad wheelwells.

Gravel varies from sand, to pebbels, to slcik rock, to sharp shale, to all variations with mud or snow or water combinations.

There will be slop that no tire will get through. There will be driving conditions that will challenge nad stop the best tires. Add your own driving pattern and the speed, coerning, braking, or weight, the type of vehicle, the size of the vehicle, pick up truck with notiriously light rear ends breaking traction or SUV with more balanced weight distribution, safety features to control skids nad stability control, and driving ability and you will never have a controlled testing enviroment that can test out all variables.

Granted that, you will alwyas find some person who had a negative experiene with BFG A/T KO or any othe tire on some surface or road medium. The answer is not what some individual has experienced, but whaqt the majority of owners have experienced. While we can't conduct a controlled experiment, we can evalute the huge amount of empirical data gathered by the millions of mile and milions of owners of BFG KO A/T have had over the years (and decades).

Whne one factors in all the variables and gathers a rough estiamte of an "average" then one will find many, many more happy and satisfied owners over the widest span of raod conditions over a comparatively small number of complaints. A leadfoot driver's complaint of traction but driving a pick up in the rain in oil slick asphalt amy not be a true indicator of a tire's performance.

That being said, the Revo was one of my top choices along with the Toyo AT Open Country, but I needed for a tough tire with the best track record of performacne across the widest spectrum of road conditions, including light off road slop. Drive down 23 miles of gravel in New Mexico to see Pueblo Bonita. While a passenger rated tire can do it, see how the tire gets chipped and cut and gouged. Anticipate mudholes, winter snow turing into Spring slop. Drive out to see Meteor Crater---miles of hard ashpalt turing into rulbimng dirt or mud or snow depending on the season.....rolled up in low 4x4 to get to Burro Schmidt's Tunnel in the California High Desert, cross into blistering Mojave to visit tucked away Mitchell Caverns in the hills between Barstow and Las Vegas--north of Amboy Caves and South of Cima Domes.....roll around in Canyon de Chelly.....wow.

I've been wanting to join a club to cross the Mojave Trial that stretches from the Nevada State line to Barstow. That's the ancient trade route the Indians used to connect trading from the coastal tribes to the desert tribes. General George Patton trained his armoured units there prior to going over in WWII. You can still find plenty of volcanic rocks there.

While I don't do rock climbing, I chose the BFG for what it can do well across the widest terrain and getting me back. There's a BFG ad that says "How much is it worth to you not to have to walk back?"

 

[4runnerpastya]

ive got about 20k miles on my baja widetrack ht's.

 

[Falls]

Like I stated prev. in a post. I've ALWAYS run BFG and think they are the best all around AT out there and they have never let me down even in deep Wi snow's.

With that said I wanted to try Revo's and have them on but to be honest I have not had a chance to try them in heavy off road conditions , or deep snow. I also am skeptical of these tire's due to puncture resistance from a P rated tire , tread depth of the revo compared to the BFG. The BFG is a "C" rated tire in a 265/70/17 , where as I was told the Revo LT will be an "E" rated tire , which IMO is way overkill for the 4R's need's. It designed for F250/350 ect...that pull heavy loads

I was just reading tonite in a Four Wheeler that had a tire shopper guide and rated the Revo as good in snow and rough road condition's. IMO that does not hold water as a true all terrain tire. Other's like Nitto, BFG were rated much higher to take on all different terrain type's. I was kind of disappointed to read that having just put Revo's on , but the true test will tell when I get a chance to try them out for myself. If they don't perform off road in the snow and mud they will come off. So far they are excellent on road and in the rain.

Here is how the mag. described the following tire's as far as usage goes.

Revo's - "Designed for a good upgrade for snow and rough roads"

Nitto AT - " Designed for sand,gravel,mud - it does'nt care"

BFG AT - Was not featured in this shopper's guide,so I can only go from year's of running them that they worked well in all condition's , except gooey muck. For me deep snow performance was not a problem.

Just my .02

 

[JB.]

I also am skeptical of these tire's due to puncture resistance from a P rated tire

Just so you know, the P-rated Revos have seen lots of hard, off road use by quite a few members here with no reported failures and nothing but praise.

 

[Falls]

Just so you know, the P-rated Revos have seen lots of hard, off road use by quite a few members here with no reported failures and nothing but praise.

That's what I hoping for , and like I said I can't wait to try them out. I'm not knocking them by anymean's just what I read and have not driven them except in rain and very minor snow. I'm still BFG partial though. Just like the look and toughness of them.

 

[Bobby]

My 4runner came with Dunlop GrandTreks and got swapped out after 7k miles to Bridgestone Revos (265-70/17). They kick ass in the snow.

 

[White Lightning]

This is a great site! I did all my research here for many months prior to deciding on the 4 Runner. Thank you for all the great information.

My white 04 SE 4WD V8 came with the 265/65 17 Dunlop