Whats the difference?
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World of difference.
I have 24,000 miles on the Bridgestone H/T 840. They ride ok. Do ok in the rain, but no expereince in the snow. They corner OK and handle ok.
According to the revies on tirerack, ok means ok. SOme owners have no problems, some owners have had lots of isseus. Not as bad as the Dunflops Grand-wreck AT 20.
The Bridgestone H/T has a tread patten suited for dry highways. Too tightly packed, and not aggressive in the wet and snow. The tread does not evacuate water as well as other premium tires does not appear to be well suited for any slop or mud. Now, mud can vary greatly in concistently and texture, from loose watery sandy stuff to thick sticky Alabama clay goo that would clog the best mud terrains. But I doubt the Bridgesetone H/T can do with anything more than thin watery slop.
It's an OK tire. Like Oklahoma. It's OK, average, not too bad, not great, nothing to write hme about, nothing to scream about, It does the job if you don't ask too much of it. Don't call it an overachiever, medicore, something that is black, round, and rolls. Works better than my ex wife. you know.
Revos are rated first right now in the total A/T tire surveys in tirerack. BFG A/T KO are rated second right behind that. They both have very competent handling in slop, wet, goo, gravel, dirt, etc. WHile it may not excell at off road like a dedicated mudder, they will overacheive in areas that 99% of the people will encounter.
So, once I roll through the summer months on the H/Ts, I will replace them with either Revos, BFG, or Toyo Open COuntry....
I have 24,000 miles on the Bridgestone H/T 840. They ride ok. Do ok in the rain, but no expereince in the snow. They corner OK and handle ok.
According to the revies on tirerack, ok means ok. SOme owners have no problems, some owners have had lots of isseus. Not as bad as the Dunflops Grand-wreck AT 20.
The Bridgestone H/T has a tread patten suited for dry highways. Too tightly packed, and not aggressive in the wet and snow. The tread does not evacuate water as well as other premium tires does not appear to be well suited for any slop or mud. Now, mud can vary greatly in concistently and texture, from loose watery sandy stuff to thick sticky Alabama clay goo that would clog the best mud terrains. But I doubt the Bridgesetone H/T can do with anything more than thin watery slop.
It's an OK tire. Like Oklahoma. It's OK, average, not too bad, not great, nothing to write hme about, nothing to scream about, It does the job if you don't ask too much of it. Don't call it an overachiever, medicore, something that is black, round, and rolls. Works better than my ex wife. you know.
Revos are rated first right now in the total A/T tire surveys in tirerack. BFG A/T KO are rated second right behind that. They both have very competent handling in slop, wet, goo, gravel, dirt, etc. WHile it may not excell at off road like a dedicated mudder, they will overacheive in areas that 99% of the people will encounter.
So, once I roll through the summer months on the H/Ts, I will replace them with either Revos, BFG, or Toyo Open COuntry....
Spensane
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So for someone like me that drives in alot of snow in the winter and hits the trails the rest of the year the Revo's would be a good buy. Would this still be true if I went with something in the size of like 33" or 285 which ever the way they are messured? But what about a tire that does good in serious mud and really deep snow? We get 300"+ and we have alot of muddy logging trails. Should I look into something from Nitto or Toyo?
Consider the BFG A/T KO.
The BFG are highly rated for snow traction and lasts a long time. In fact, the BFG has the "snowflake in the mountain" symbol for meeting or exceeding the RMA standards as severe weather sue. Some states like Oregon recognizes the RMA symbol and allow you to pass when conditions are more severe than just chains.
I have not heard anything abd about Nittos and they are cheaper too. They run about $103 for 265/70/17. Chekc out the thread where one of our boys put on Nittos on his 18" wheels. Sharp!
The tread pattern is very similar to Toyo Open Country. SOme have said that Toyo makes the the Nitto....I have no solid facts for that. I have the Toyo on my Tahoe and it works well in dry and slush and wet. I see lots of folks use Toyos up here and they make a quality tire. I just don't see enough reports on long term wear on Nittos to know or have enough confidence how it will do in wet, snow, slush, and wear lifespan. How will it do in trails? How will it do in rocks? Dry shale? sandstone? There is a reason why BFG is the #1 tire for off roaders--both mud and A/T.
However, if you have a lot of deep snow, mudders are supposed to be better. The downside is muds lose to the A/T when you drive on or near road surface. The lack of siping and overly aggressive paddles don't work as well.
Right now, BFG is the only one offering LT C load for 265/70/17.
Toyo offers in P load nad LT in E. ONe extreme to another. NItto does not offer anything but P load. Revo is supposed to come out with an LT in the fall, but in E load. That leaves BFG as the only one with an LT C load...if you don't consider some Coopers or LEs Schwab tires that do come in C load....
Check ouf the tread carcass and sidewall plies. BFG has 5 plies on the tread and 3 plies on the sidwewall--in a C load! Toyo has 5 plies (2 poly, 1 nylon, and 2 steel) but only 2 on the sidewall. I think Revos has the same 5 and 2 construction.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the above. You have to accetp some trade offs from one to another.
Spensane said:
The BFG are highly rated for snow traction and lasts a long time. In fact, the BFG has the "snowflake in the mountain" symbol for meeting or exceeding the RMA standards as severe weather sue. Some states like Oregon recognizes the RMA symbol and allow you to pass when conditions are more severe than just chains.
I have not heard anything abd about Nittos and they are cheaper too. They run about $103 for 265/70/17. Chekc out the thread where one of our boys put on Nittos on his 18" wheels. Sharp!
The tread pattern is very similar to Toyo Open Country. SOme have said that Toyo makes the the Nitto....I have no solid facts for that. I have the Toyo on my Tahoe and it works well in dry and slush and wet. I see lots of folks use Toyos up here and they make a quality tire. I just don't see enough reports on long term wear on Nittos to know or have enough confidence how it will do in wet, snow, slush, and wear lifespan. How will it do in trails? How will it do in rocks? Dry shale? sandstone? There is a reason why BFG is the #1 tire for off roaders--both mud and A/T.
However, if you have a lot of deep snow, mudders are supposed to be better. The downside is muds lose to the A/T when you drive on or near road surface. The lack of siping and overly aggressive paddles don't work as well.
Right now, BFG is the only one offering LT C load for 265/70/17.
Toyo offers in P load nad LT in E. ONe extreme to another. NItto does not offer anything but P load. Revo is supposed to come out with an LT in the fall, but in E load. That leaves BFG as the only one with an LT C load...if you don't consider some Coopers or LEs Schwab tires that do come in C load....
Check ouf the tread carcass and sidewall plies. BFG has 5 plies on the tread and 3 plies on the sidwewall--in a C load! Toyo has 5 plies (2 poly, 1 nylon, and 2 steel) but only 2 on the sidewall. I think Revos has the same 5 and 2 construction.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the above. You have to accetp some trade offs from one to another.
Kmvreter
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The UP = Northern Ontario in many ways. Beautiful country, same weather.
If you are into rotating to winter tires then get a second set of steel wheels. BFG for winter, Michelin CT for summer (once your stock H/T's wear out.)
Otherwise, with one set of wheels use Revo's year-round.
Life is a compromise, except in the North in the dead of winter. You don't want to get stuck!
If you are into rotating to winter tires then get a second set of steel wheels. BFG for winter, Michelin CT for summer (once your stock H/T's wear out.)
Otherwise, with one set of wheels use Revo's year-round.
Life is a compromise, except in the North in the dead of winter. You don't want to get stuck!
Spensane
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Thanks for all the great info, I think I will be getting a set of the Revo's after I get the lift on. But it might not be until spring since I have to get new rims also. I can't use the stockers because I have free tires for life for my dealer but it is only on the size and type I have. So I will get the others for summer and keep the stockers for winter.
