Wheel came off at 70mph on freeway....

WandaRunner

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Hi all, I am a long time stalker of the forum, decided to join recently because I want to share a major mistake I made in hopes others will not make the same mistake.

A couple of months ago my wheel came off while driving south on the I-10 from PHX to Tucson, I was going about 75mph, felt the entire car shudder and immediately made a b-line for the offramp. As I am slowing down coming off the freeway the car lurches forward and I watch as the passenger side front tire and wheel fly across 4 lanes of traffic in front of me. Being the idiot that I am I though, "dang, thats a sweet looking wheel and tire set...oh wait....thats the same wheel and tire set I have...ohhhh, thats my wheel and tire."

Most important outcome of this accident was that no one was hurt and no one elses property was damaged apart from my own.

After several investigations by two major insurance companies and two toyota dealerships, the cause of failure was that all lug nuts snapped clean off due to improper torque, I was running 1" spacers at the time, but the spacers and spacer lugs stayed bolted to the wheel with no sign of spacer failure (multiple engineers from Toyota and insurance companies confirmed that while the spacers place added leverage force on the factory lug nuts, the factory lug nuts would have failed either way due to improper torque applied, the factory lugnuts were seriously under-torqued).

Just a couple of days before the accident I had a local offroad shop in Mesa, AZ, put on new wheels and tire, work on clearance issues, firewall tubing, welding sliders, bodylift, etc. The night I picked up my car they were bolting the wheels on in the parking lot with a hand drill and rushing to finish up. I should have checked the torque on my own wheels/ made the shop torque to spec with proper equipment. This was my mistake.

The moral of this post is twofold: 1) choose an honest company with a good reputation to work on your car, saving a few dollars is not worth your safety 2) if you do work on your car yourself, great, if not, keep an eye on what has been done and dont be afraid to check it yourself or have another professional check it out.

Stay safe everybody and enjoy you rigs.

-Tyler
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[MENTION=180098]WandaRunner[/MENTION] dang glad youre okay!

Same thing happened with another forum member here. Toyota screwed up but denies claim. not sure what happened after.

I carry my torque wrench in my cargo to also double check. trust no one! lol
 
Glad you're alright. This makes me wonder about my wheel locks. Every time I torque it down or loosen it, I can see it flexing in a weird way. Probably due to the extended length of using the key. Kind of don't wanna use them anymore.

But sweet, another Houston person. I will wave and honk if I see your ride around!

Edit: wait a second. Looking at your bottom photo, we don't have mountains like that in Houston lol.
 
Cool rig and informative post OP...glad all is okay! I couldn't help but notice the photo tee'd up a bevy of potential snorkel jokes...but so far...crickets.
 
Wow that could have turned out terrible. Agreed with others that I have heard of this before. I will be checking the torque of mine as well because last time I put them on I used an air compressor/socket to put them back on. I tightned them to PFT without a torque reading. :redface:
 
another reason why i dont run spacers. Who ever did your wheels would blame on spacers and you would have to prove that its them. If you didnt have spacers, its like their fault

when i use to track my car i would check torque every other session. I havent checked my truck now but i should more often.
 
I am surprised to see you say it was too little torque! Looks like the sheared studs would have happened from way too much torque.

I learned that these trucks only require 83 ft lbs early on. I took the truck to tire shop to switch out dunlops to duratracs within 1,000 miles of purchase. Watched the kid use a pnumatic gun and i said something to them only to get a bs response that it had torque control or some nonsense. Upon inspection i found 2 completely sheared studs and a third that was very stretched.

I have "83 ft lbs ONLY!" written on my wheel lock in sharpie and covered with clear tape to protect the writing. Have not had a problem again with that reminder on there. Also i have seen discount tire receipts that show 85 lb ft as s the reminder to the tech.
 
Holy schnizzz!

What size jeans do you wear, I'll send you a clean pair.

:scared:

j/k, glad you're ok.

That's got me wondering now, when I had my tires/shocks done a couple of weeks ago they snapped one of the studs.
 
Holy schnizzz!
That's got me wondering now, when I had my tires/shocks done a couple of weeks ago they snapped one of the studs.

Who did your work? I live in your area and am thinking of going to Discount Tire on 360, just wondering if it was them by any chance.
 
Loose wheels dink chips

It's always amazing to see a tire that's come off an axle pass the vehicle it came off of. It's the rotational inertia the wheel has that makes it spin forward.

I've seen big rig truck tires do this with dire consequences. Those are heavy.
 
Damn this sucks but glad you're OK. Have you checked the other 3 for damage or failure? What did the shop that did the work have to say about this?
 
Wow that could have turned out terrible. Agreed with others that I have heard of this before. I will be checking the torque of mine as well because last time I put them on I used an air compressor/socket to put them back on. I tightned them to PFT without a torque reading. :redface:



PFT is a terrible and dangerous method of installing wheels. If you’re going to use a gun to tighten your lug nuts, be smart about it and pick up the appropriately rated torque stick [emoji6]


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Glad you were ok. How did it feel driving on three wheels? Did the front end stay up till you got to the shoulder?

When that wheel came off the car was completely out of my control. Front end dropped and pulled me right onto the side of the road, luckily it was not drivers side which would have pulled me into oncoming traffic. At the speed I was going I pretty much just held on best I could.
 
Glad you're alright. This makes me wonder about my wheel locks. Every time I torque it down or loosen it, I can see it flexing in a weird way. Probably due to the extended length of using the key. Kind of don't wanna use them anymore.

But sweet, another Houston person. I will wave and honk if I see your ride around!

Edit: wait a second. Looking at your bottom photo, we don't have mountains like that in Houston lol.

Thanks for the welcome! Just moved from AZ about a week before Harvey came to town. We are headed down to PINS this weekend to do some volunteering/ fishing down in Corpus Christi.
 
I am surprised to see you say it was too little torque! Looks like the sheared studs would have happened from way too much torque.

I learned that these trucks only require 83 ft lbs early on. I took the truck to tire shop to switch out dunlops to duratracs within 1,000 miles of purchase. Watched the kid use a pnumatic gun and i said something to them only to get a bs response that it had torque control or some nonsense. Upon inspection i found 2 completely sheared studs and a third that was very stretched.

I have "83 ft lbs ONLY!" written on my wheel lock in sharpie and covered with clear tape to protect the writing. Have not had a problem again with that reminder on there. Also i have seen discount tire receipts that show 85 lb ft as s the reminder to the tech.

Absolutely agree with your thought; that is what I thought as well (I am not an engineer or anything close to mechanically competent). However, both insurance companies and their engineers claim it was too little torque that caused the wheel to basically 'walk' itself off the studs and give enough room to apply vertical force which lugs are not designed to handle. (had to reference my insurance documents for this response to make sure I am giving out the right info). I have no idea how they determined that.

At this point it does not matter what the real cause was, all that matters is what insurance says it was, unfortunately.

You very well could be right, and too much torque is a much more common scenario/problem.
 

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