When do you consider it too much rust?

dude that's nothing, sand it down prime it paint it seal it. as for the under body rust get a wire wheel and go at it then paint it with a bed liner or rubber undercoat.
once a vehicle starts to rust its near impossible to stop it but you can slow it down considerably
 
Until you get to fix it, check out rustcheck.com. This stuff will slow the rusting down. You can buy it in spray cans or get your whole vehicle sprayed by an applicator for about $200. Don't confuse this stuff with other oils like used motor oil or ATF. It's good stuff. It gets in everywhere, displaces water and slows the rusting process.
 
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This is my kind of topic. When I was in my twenties way back in the dark ages of 8 cylinder engines, I used to travel the country in rust buckets with high mileage engines. My first cross country, Maine to California car was a '59 Impala wagon. The rust got to the point that my feet went through the floor boards. I just pop riveted a piece of sheet metal on the body and kept driving. That year I did two cross country trips in it. In fact I have driven cars that have frames which have split in two and been wired back together. This I don't recommend. If it's any more than body rust, dump the car!!! I have never had a car in New England that saw the engine fail before it rusted out to un-operable. One car I had, a '73 Chevy Impala sedan which was so big I slept comfortably in the back seat, saw a good deal of rust in the back panels but had a solid frame. In Las Vegas a cop stopped me and spent ten minutes walking around the thing with a look of awe. He had never been to the rust belt I quickly surmised. Usually those kinds of cars have the most reliable engines in them in spite of the high mileage, mine did.
 
decided to bite the bullet and take it to the custom jeep shop up the road...2 of the body shops i went to didnt want to get involved, maaco gave me a pretty decent quote but i didnt feel 100% confident that they would take care of it correctly

so my plan for now is to do it in sections...this trip is the replacing the rear bumpers, cutting out the rust in the rear wheel wells, and the passenger rear quarter panel...total for that is gonna be 600 - 800 bucks..which im willing to fork up to get the job done right (i dont trust myself with body work in the slightest)...my next step is going to be the front bumper, rocker panel, and frame

im really excited that im getting this taken care of before it gets worse...should have her back in a couple days! :)
 
for 600-800 bucks you can buy a rust free vehicle with no engine or trans.
keep in mind you need to pick your battles
swapping all your interior and engine may be less of a battle then rust.
 
Bad_Vision said:
for 600-800 bucks you can buy a rust free vehicle with no engine or trans.
keep in mind you need to pick your battles
swapping all your interior and engine may be less of a battle then rust.
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yeah i know...ive already put quite a bit of money into it...but it was my first car ive had ever since high school so im kind of emotionally attached to it (as silly as that sounds)
 
well you need to throw that out it will cost you your left nut if you let it.
if you look at from a logical point of view your driveline is the heart and the body is the skin shed the skin and save the heart.
 
Bad_Vision said:
well you need to throw that out it will cost you your left nut if you let it.
if you look at from a logical point of view your driveline is the heart and the body is the skin shed the skin and save the heart.
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exactly what any logical person would say haha...well shes already in the body shop now...ill have to see how things progress, but it seems like the damage is pretty minimal at this point so ill try and stick with it...im not worried too much about the engine at this point...only 113,xxx miles on it :)
 
i took a second look at your pictures i will recommend you get rid of the chrome stripping it can cause more rust. and make sure all points that have fabric or plastic against metal are resealed i recommend Durabak bed liner it will keep water out of metal on these parts that stay wet under plastic and fabric.
 
Most of the guys here are right. When I sold cars I asked the sales manager who had many decades of experience what he looked at in a used car, body or engine. He said it was always the body. You can always put a new engine in the car.
 
got a call this afternoon sayin she's ready...and actually below what they initially said! (they said 600-800 and its actually only 550)..and thats for them putting on my new bumpers, cutting out and fabricating the rust areas in both rear wheel wells and the big rust hole behind the bumper, and painting...so all in all i dont think thats bad at all

cant wait to pick her up tomorrow!! ill put up pics asap
 
just posted new pictures: Toyota 4Runner Forum - yamar's Album: My Rust

luckily the rust didnt go too far into the body...so they cut it out and welded new sheet metal and just left it black since it was such a small amount...new bumpers, new mudflaps, rust cut out of the wheel wells and new sheet metal welded on....good start for my little restoration project
 
dont bondo you rust issues that will make them worse the proper fix is to cut it out replace it with new metal and then seal it and then u bondo it i have seen so many people think just bondoing over rust fixes it it doesnt at all it makes it worse
 
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