Who's feeling the pain at the pump with 4R ?

bzizzi

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I have a 2020 TRD ORP and am retired so no longer commuting 400 miles/ week to work and back. I fill up 4R now maybe once a month, only use to haul bikes to the trailhead take dog to AT for a walk and run errands. However I reliaze others still have to work for a living so are any of you considering selling your 4R for something more fuel efficient or buying a second vehicle that is more fuel efficient ? I also have a 2007 Camry that I use on occasion, was daughters car and she got a newer one, dealer didn't offer her much for car on trade so she gave to me.
It's actually still a really nice car, Camry XLE V6, runs perfect. It was funny to see expression on dealers face when she said she'll take new car but give her old car to me. They wanted to steal her trade.
 
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i don't use it often or drive a lot so it does not really matter. my daughter in high school just filled out her car around 11 gallons and paid almost $50. she was so surprised. lol!

I have a 2020 TRD ORP and am retired so no longer commuting 400 miles/ week to work and back. I fill up 4R now maybe once a month, only use to haul bikes to the trailhead take dog to AT for a walk and run errands. However I reliaze others still have to work for a living so are any of you considering selling your 4R for something more fuel efficient or buying a second vehicle that is more fuel efficient ? I also have a 2007 Camry that I use on occasion, was daughters car and she got a newer one, dealer didn't offer her much for car on trade so she gave to me.
It's actually still a really nice car, Camry XLE V6, runs perfect. It was funny to see expression on dealers face when she said she'll take new car but give her old car to me. They wanted to steal her trade.
 
I work from home, but my wife doesn't. $100 to fill either car is going to be a kick in the pants no matter how many times you have to do it. But, no. I'm not contemplating selling as it really doesn't make sense to still. It's a difference of $50-$100/month and we need the bigger cars with the kids. Hope it'll go back to normal soon.

Even worse is home heating oil right now. $5.15/gal today. When I moved into my house in 2015 it was $1.69. Minimum order of 150 gallons or they charge you way more. Thank god it's March or we'd be dropping a years worth of oil costs in 6-8 weeks.
 
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Work from home, thank you Covid.

My gains on oil stocks purchased at the bottom of market during Covid, dwarf anything I will pay at the pump.

FJB
 
Yeah. Well realistically when it's $0.40/mile to take the 4Runner anywhere highway (worse in city) versus $0.10/mile to take our hybrid anywhere (better in city), we don't take the 4Runner out much....

Except to the mall, of course.
 
I remember trucker's protests and convoys in mid-90th when gas crossed $1
then in mid-00th everybody was talking about gas jumping up to $4 and crossing $5 in CA, a few years back it came down briefly to $1, and now it is again just under $4.
Google says it is about $6-6.50 in Europe...
Keep watching :couch2::couch2::couch2:
 
Work from home, thank you Covid.

My gains on oil stocks purchased at the bottom of market during Covid, dwarf anything I will pay at the pump.

FJB


agreed, I retired a few years ago at 32 and its been a good market. I look forward to Moscow Exchange opening again :AK47: time to make some more money.
 
The 4Runner gets better MPG than four of the vehicles in our garage. It will continue to be driven when we want to drive it.
 
Fuel prices being high is annoying because it doesn't have to be that way. If we just continued oil and gas production as it was a couple years back we'd be fine.

We were energy independent, now we're not.

Now we're paying countries to ship us oil, and some of those counties should not be getting our business.
 
I work from home. So it's not a huge issue for me. But if I were commuting it would be.

Fun side thought: I sold my F250 in November. It held 40 gallons. At $5/gal, it's $200 per tank. It would go 6-700 miles if you could run through a whole tank without breaking down. lol. I only used it for towing, hauling, and supporting the tow truck companies when it was being towed home on a flatbed. So it wasn't a big fuel cost to me. My brother in law commutes to work in a Tundra on 35s. He's spending on the order of $6-800 a month for commuting fuel. That would pretty easily cover the monthly cost of a commuter car EV. He makes plenty of $, so it's not a hardship. But it probably is for a lot of folks who don't need to be driving full size trucks as commuter cars. If these prices hold up long run - I think we'll finally see a price correction as the full size trucks go on the used market. It'll take a few months for the pain to finally drive the folks who commute in them to sell em though. I'm already seeing LC200's and LX570's hitting the classifieds.
 
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Fuel prices being high is annoying because it doesn't have to be that way. If we just continued oil and gas production as it was a couple years back we'd be fine.

We were energy independent, now we're not.

Now we're paying countries to ship us oil, and some of those counties should not be getting our business.

I agree !00%
 
I recently traded in a 2017 Armada for my 4Runner. I'm more relieved than anything right now--that pig averaged 14mpg on a good day.
 
Fuel prices being high is annoying because it doesn't have to be that way. If we just continued oil and gas production as it was a couple years back we'd be fine.

We were energy independent, now we're not.

Now we're paying countries to ship us oil, and some of those counties should not be getting our business.

X2 on that, 100 % agreed!
 
I hope that will not happened... at least in my lifetime...

P.S. I am probably biased to some degree... because I am from Kiev, Ukraine..

can understand that from that aspect. I'm a second generation US citizen, family came over to US during WWII. As for a financial aspect it can be a once in a lifetime opportunity
 
My wife's old 2004 Corolla was sort of the perfect car, awesome gas mileage, super reliable, great on the highway... small though. It worked fine when we just had 1 kid. 2 kids would be pushing it in a Corolla, especially for road trips unless you could pack light (HA!). We have a Highlander now, great car but a gas saver it is not. Barely better gas mileage than my 4runner.

The newer Corolla wagon/ mini-suv would be nice to have. Corolla hatchback and Corolla Cross.
I won't be switching out of the 4runner, but I do hope gas prices come down.
 
Fuel costs in the US in 2008 were as high as they are now. Back in 2008 I was making 55% less than I do now. Back then, high fuel costs were an annoyance just as they are now for me and I would bet that my household's income is lower than most on this forum.

If paying an extra $40-100/mo in fuel costs has a significant impact on your life style, then perhaps you need to reevaluate you finances.

It would make very little financial sense to sell a 4runner for a more fuel efficient vehicle. That rationale has always made no sense to me because most parties that do that, buy a new or newer and more expensive car in the process. Sounds more like as excuse to get a new car rather than "save money".
 
Fuel prices being high is annoying because it doesn't have to be that way. If we just continued oil and gas production as it was a couple years back we'd be fine.

We were energy independent, now we're not.

Now we're paying countries to ship us oil, and some of those counties should not be getting our business.

I agree !00%

X2 on that, 100 % agreed!

This isn't totally accurate. The US has produced more oil in each of the past 3 years then it ever has in the past. A reason increased production hasn't led to lower prices is because domestic producers have been net exporters of oil since 2011, which has helped keep the national supply/demand around the same.

The US has always been energy dependent, that's why OPEC decisions always impact gas prices.
 
Bought the 2011 a few years ago for slightly less than $14k and the 99 for less than $9k (in 2006). Both drive as good as new (knock on wood), in fact the 99 drives significantly better than new because of all the work I've done to it. Those purchase prices paid for a lot of gas over the years. I am however going total bare essentials in my spending due to how things are looking... no impulse buys, eating out, fast food, drastically cut back on booze, snack food, etc. cancelling streaming services, driving less. But that's kind of how I roll anyway so not that much changing.
 

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