Who's run the Rubicon in a 5th gen?

I say go for it. You are experienced and you know all trails are approached with the same mindset. Lines, experience and spotters are key. Could you need a new bumper cover when you finish? Maybe. Would it be worth it? Hell. Yes. To run the Rubicon in a mostly stock 4Runner? Priceless! Even Ben running it in a modded 4Runner is way cool.

Sliders - Check
33's - Check
Skids - Check

Life is short. Make the memories. I do this on my mountain bike all the time. I hear from the youngsters "Dude, you sure you want to ride that section? You are, um, ah, sorta old man" or "Man, you are a pretty big and tall guy to be riding that trail."
It's like they think I somehow magically forget that I am 6'4" and 250 lbs and friggin' 55 years old!!! When opportunities arise, no matter what the challenge, you either take them full on, or you sit on the couch in 10 years "wishing" you would have done it ten years ago.

Again, life is short. Good luck and God speed lol. Seriously, have fun!

Very well.said. I'm almost there.. Just a gas tank and diff skid away.. maybe some rear link skids. And I'll do it. There will be some munch.. hopefully not on the doors, but I think I've prepared by this time as much as I can. .. But ya only live once..
 
So... revival of an old thread.

I'm leaving Tuesday of next week for Tahoe... I'll share some pics when I get back. I'll probably spend a day this weekend fabbing some extra skids where I think I might be exposed on the soft underbelly - mainly upgrading the gas tank skid and building some type of rear bumper slider/skid plate.

As I understand it there's a lot of standing water right now. I don't want a snorkel on my daily driver. Hate to do it - but if there's spots that are over the hood deep, I'm probably just going to turn off the engine, winch through, then double check the intake for water, and keep going.
 
So... revival of an old thread.

I'm leaving Tuesday of next week for Tahoe... I'll share some pics when I get back. I'll probably spend a day this weekend fabbing some extra skids where I think I might be exposed on the soft underbelly - mainly upgrading the gas tank skid and building some type of rear bumper slider/skid plate.

As I understand it there's a lot of standing water right now. I don't want a snorkel on my daily driver. Hate to do it - but if there's spots that are over the hood deep, I'm probably just going to turn off the engine, winch through, then double check the intake for water, and keep going.
Did you ever run the Rubicon?
 
Did you ever run the Rubicon?

I did. I've done it twice now. Couldn't go this year, but fingers crossed for next year again.

https://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/259539-trip-report;-rubicon-2018-tlca-rubithon.html

My general thoughts are - it's rough but do-able. The lack of ground clearance will be an issue, so choose your lines carefully. And having someone who's got a lot of experience will help to choose the best lines goes a long way. As does having really good skid plates. Everything underneath will get pretty well abused.

What I would suggest as far as vehicle prep:
2.5-3" lift and as tall of tire as you can get in there. I had 33's the first time, 34's the second time. It did make a noticeable difference on taller tires.

Airbags in the rear. We go for about a week, so lots of gear = heavy and having the ability to max out the rear height with air springs for the worst parts was really useful. I normally otherwise have the rear set at around 2" of lift with light spring rates because my normal use is empty 99% of the time.

Full skid plate set including the fuel tank. It takes a beating, probably more than any other area. Skids for the shock mounts. I don't think the rear axle needs a skid plate other than maybe a welded on protection ring for the drain plug. You absolutely if nothing else need a skid for the transfer case and exhaust crossover. Wierdly - the stock muffler seems to be nearly immune from rocks. I've yet to do anything more than some light surface scratches. You also absolutely need rock sliders. And bumpout sliders are better for a few specific obstacles. I would also highly recommend wheel spacers - even though I kinda hate them. They put the tires out a bit more and keep the body off the rocks. I used them the second time, not the first and it really did help. But it also exposed the shock mounts worse.

If your skids don't cover them - find a way to protect the front cam tabs for the lower control arms. They'll get chewed up. Lots of options there. I don't think lower control arm skid plates have any meaningful use, but a small skid just for those or something like Marlin's kit would be even better.

The REAR lower control arms are very easy to bend and will get bent almost certainly if you dont either upgrade or reinforce them. If you are a welder or have access to one -they're very easy to reinforce with some light gauge steel channel. I did a writeup on that here: Simple DIY Rear Lower Control Arm Upgrade

And IMO a winch is not entirely necessary to get through, but you shouldn't go without one. You'll use it. And it'll safe a lot of time stacking rocks and jacking. It'll help you keep moving at a reasonable pace. Second year I used the winch only one time I'm remembering right now. But it's really nice to know it's there.

The rear bumper will get hammered without protection. Front bumper will probably scrape a little bit here and there, but not bad. No need for high clearance side cuts.

I'd just go with one spare. First time I took 2 expecting more tire damage. My wheels got pretty well chewed up both times. Expect surface damage to the wheels. I don't think you can avoid that easily. The most common issue I saw was torn off valve stems. Bring a spare valve stem or two. Don't bring a second spare tire. The weight causes more harm than the extra tire does good.

I also took a spare CV axle - both sides are the same, so you can use one spare. I have never needed it. Actually - I've never had anything break. It's been pretty much bulletproof.

You should have more than enough fuel if you fill up in south Tahoe before going. I went through about half a tank of gas for the loop from South Tahoe to Loon lake - out Tahoma and back to South Tahoe.

Finally - having all the Trail stuff - rear locker, KDSS, and crawl were all useful. Crawl has been magic a few times that amazed me - and some people in my group. But those are maybe once per trip things. I think an SR5 with a winch would make it through with a little more effort in a few spots. ATRAC isn't quite as good as a rear locker and MTS - but it's perfectly functional.

Hope that helps if you're thinking about going. It's a lot of fun. It's an incredibly beautiful area. Do some hiking. There's so much to go see and explore off the trail.

Maybe next year I'll take my FJ40 - but probably not. The PITA of a trailer queen is that you have to drive about 2.5 hours on the road between the two ends once you're done. So you end up with an extra 5 hours or more of highway time at the end. And I store my FJ40 at my parent's in Montana - so that adds another 12 hours to go get it, and 12 hours back up to drop it back off. It just isn't practical for me to drive up to Montana, get it, then all the way down to California, then all the way back up to Montana and then turn around and go back again south to Utah where I live now. The 4Runner does perfectly fine for that trail, has a nice highway comfortable cruise out to California at 75mph and home. It's a swiss army knife and that's why I love it.
 
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Thanks for the writeup, I'll be tackling the Rubicon this summer with a small group of Toyota's and a buddy who's done the trail a few times before. Sounds like I'm mostly ready to go after reinforcing some skid plates.

From what I can see it looks like you're well prepared. It's worked out really well for us to do it in 3 segments. Loon lake to buck island on day 1. Buck island to Rubicon Springs on day 2. And then I usually drive out from Rubicon Springs all the way to Utah on whatever day we're leaving. Typically we'll stay a few days at Rubicon Springs in the middle. If you can - I'd spend at least one full day, but ideally 2 or 3 days at Rubicon Springs. Camp out on the big rock slabs and swim in the river pools, go hike, etc. If it's a busy weekend and you're leaving on a Sunday - go early out of Rubicon Springs. Like 6-7am early. If you're not in a hurry - mid afternoon would also probably be a great time to head out. Then you won't get stuck on Cadillac Hill. There's a lot of spots where you can't pass if someone breaks down. If there's a club with 300 jeeps heading up the hill - I'd rather be out of there before they start.

FWIW it's really bumpy, so I'd avoid glass bottles. They tend to get broken from bouncing around. A fridge full of broken glass and beer soup is not ideal... There's water everywhere around, so I don't carry a ton. I just bring a water filter and a couple gallons.
 
From what I can see it looks like you're well prepared. It's worked out really well for us to do it in 3 segments. Loon lake to buck island on day 1. Buck island to Rubicon Springs on day 2. And then I usually drive out from Rubicon Springs all the way to Utah on whatever day we're leaving. Typically we'll stay a few days at Rubicon Springs in the middle. If you can - I'd spend at least one full day, but ideally 2 or 3 days at Rubicon Springs. Camp out on the big rock slabs and swim in the river pools, go hike, etc. If it's a busy weekend and you're leaving on a Sunday - go early out of Rubicon Springs. Like 6-7am early. If you're not in a hurry - mid afternoon would also probably be a great time to head out. Then you won't get stuck on Cadillac Hill. There's a lot of spots where you can't pass if someone breaks down. If there's a club with 300 jeeps heading up the hill - I'd rather be out of there before they start.

FWIW it's really bumpy, so I'd avoid glass bottles. They tend to get broken from bouncing around. A fridge full of broken glass and beer soup is not ideal... There's water everywhere around, so I don't carry a ton. I just bring a water filter and a couple gallons.

Well I did it and I'm still alive.

I agree with everything you've said in your last two posts about the Rubicon, and we ended up camping near the locations you mentioned, and staying an extra day and hiked/swam near rubicon springs.

Even with 37's my skids got beat up, and my front RCI skid that has never received any noticeable dents is now crooked. I'm sure my stock fuel tank skid won't fit back on if I take it off. Kickout sliders are a must IMO. Thankfully I didn't receive any body damage but about half our group of 10 did.

But it was a lot of fun.
 
Well I did it and I'm still alive.

I agree with everything you've said in your last two posts about the Rubicon, and we ended up camping near the locations you mentioned, and staying an extra day and hiked/swam near rubicon springs.

Even with 37's my skids got beat up, and my front RCI skid that has never received any noticeable dents is now crooked. I'm sure my stock fuel tank skid won't fit back on if I take it off. Kickout sliders are a must IMO. Thankfully I didn't receive any body damage but about half our group of 10 did.

But it was a lot of fun.

Awesome!

It's a great place. Glad to hear you had fun! I'm sure on 37's you could have made it end to end in day, but probably wouldn't have had a chance to really enjoy it. It's a great place in the world to hike and play outside of the driving part.

It definitely tests all your skids. I read somewhere that when toyota did it with a stock height 4Runner, that the fuel skid had pretty much collapsed and the tank was compressed quite a bit. Not sure where the fuel pump lives - but it must be in one of the locations that doesn't get damaged. It's a good design choice wherever it is.

The fact that we're not seeing broken axles, broken steering parts, and those sorts of things is a pretty good testament to how good the durability really is. Especially compared to the earlier IFS front ends. I'd be really nervous to take my 3rd gen IFS through without a lot of spare parts. The 4th and 5th gens seem to handle the abuse much better.
 
Thanks for the writeup, I'll be tackling the Rubicon this summer with a small group of Toyota's and a buddy who's done the trail a few times before. Sounds like I'm mostly ready to go after reinforcing some skid plates.

Last fall, I ran a portion of it from Loon Lake to Little Sluice and then back. It took all day to make that trip, probably took the better part of 4.5 hours to get to Little Sluice. Let's put it this way, I used every piece of armor that day, including the front bumper. Sliders were the most used, not used sliding, but moving boulders with them trying to squeeze through. The only carnage was a busted tail light from dropping the ass off a ledge and hammering the rear bumper, which busted the tail light.

It is doable, just make sure to be prepared with the proper supplies, spare parts, tools and time.
 

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