Who's the next president?

[SonRunner]

"Spread the wealth" says Obama...full of crap!

So when McCain proposes taxing your Health Benefits... is that spreading the wealth? When he lowers taxes for the rich more aggressively than the middle class... is that spreading the wealth?

 

[Thai]

So when McCain proposes taxing your Health Benefits... is that spreading the wealth? When he lowers taxes for the rich more aggressively than the middle class... is that spreading the wealth?

Hey, did i not earn my living through hardwork?? Did i make a comfortable (not wealthy nor "rich") living by depending on the government to give me "breaks"?? So, do i believe in spreading the wealth?? No...there is plenty of that already today...why would i want more?? BTW, i may not earn enough, but i don't think Bush gave me any more breaks than Clinton did. Maybe i should vote for Obama so that i can leech off those fat billionaires on Boardwalk so that i can walk beside them!

 

[SonRunner]

Sorry, there is no point for me to watch such propaganda! Why? MSNBC, as noted above, lies about facts and even shows people the WRONG speech to downplay Biden's controversial speech!! WTF is that?!! Is that news or propaganda?????

So, i don't need to look at the video to know that MSNBC is full of crap.

I seem to remember when I was in college there was a class called "Critical Thinking." One of the most important things taught was to evaluate both sides of the argument. Even a liberal like me watches Fox news time to time to see what they're saying. Yet, you're so sure you're right, you won't even consider the other sides point of view. That equals close mindedness which generally equates with... you guessed it... Republicans.

 

[RonMAIDEN]

I watch it all so I can see and hear both sides.

 

[SonRunner]

Hey, did i not earn my living through hardwork?? Did i make a comfortable (not wealthy nor "rich") living by depending on the government to give me "breaks"?? So, do i believe in spreading the wealth?? No...there is plenty of that already today...why would i want more?? BTW, i may not earn enough, but i don't think Bush gave me any more breaks than Clinton did. Maybe i should vote for Obama so that i can leech off those fat billionaires on Boardwalk so that i can walk beside them!

Did you drive to work on roads paid for by the tax payers? Did the cops enforce the laws on those same roads? Were you educated by public teachers? Did you go to a public college? Did you get a tax credit for the day care for your children? Your way of life is a possibility because of the country you live in. You said your family is from Vietnam. Have you ever visited there? Do you not think some of those people work harder than you do? I know they do and do they have more than you? No. Hard work isn't everything, it's also a government that works for you.

 

[Thai]

I seem to remember when I was in college there was a class called "Critical Thinking." One of the most important things taught was to evaluate both sides of the argument. Even a liberal like me watches Fox news time to time to see what they're saying. Yet, you're so sure you're right, you won't even consider the other sides point of view. That equals close mindedness which generally equates with... you guessed it... Republicans.

That is why i watch CNN. You sir have not shown any critical thinking...i think that is pretty clear. In all of this, i have laughed and agreed with you on a few points...have you done the same?? From everything that you type, you truly are suffering from Obamasexual.

Did some Republican beat your butt when you were a kid and it is now your job to rant about them???

 

[Thai]

I watch it all so I can see and hear both sides.

Oh yeah, that is why you called yourself, "INDEPENDENT" early on?? Oh wait, you then admitted to being a Democrat...then later, being ANTI-Republican...what's next??

Again, are you not concerned about what Biden said?? You are sooooo concerned about Iraq, but fail to see the meaning of Biden's speech. There will be an INTERNATIONAL CRISIS within 6 months of Obama's term...and HIS decision will be UNpopular. Wow!

Again, i see you talk here and there, but avoid this altogether?? Is that hearing from "both" sides???????

 

[SonRunner]

That is why i watch CNN. You sir have not shown any critical thinking...i think that is pretty clear. In all of this, i have laughed and agreed with you on a few points...have you done the same?? From everything that you type, you truly are suffering from Obamasexual.

Did some Republican beat your butt when you were a kid and it is now your job to rant about them???

So you watch what you've called "Communist News Network" but you won't watch MSNBC? Give me a break.

Definitely no Republicans beating me up when I was a kid. I'm from Los Angeles... there weren't very many Republicans around. I'm a complete unapologetic political junkie. Hence I will mix it up with any conservative, or liberal for that matter, who totes lies.

 

[Thai]

You said your family is from Vietnam. Have you ever visited there? Do you not think some of those people work harder than you do? I know they do and do they have more than you? No. Hard work isn't everything, it's also a government that works for you.

Did you drive to work on roads paid for by the tax payers? Did the cops enforce the laws on those same roads? Were you educated by public teachers? Did you go to a public college? Did you get a tax credit for the day care for your children? Your way of life is a possibility because of the country you live in.

We are now comparing communist 3rd world country versus our democratic free United States of America??? Are you really that ignorant??!! Your in-laws should be shooting you just about now! WTF! This has to be one of the worst argument that i have heard in a while! Mind boggling!

As for the 2nd point...maybe you missed this part in my post:
"So, do i believe in spreading the wealth?? No...there is plenty of that already today...why would i want more??"

What part of this do you not understand?? Hello??

 

[Thai]

So you watch what you've called "Communist News Network" but you won't watch MSNBC? Give me a break.

Definitely no Republicans beating me up when I was a kid. I'm from Los Angeles... there weren't very many Republicans around. I'm a complete unapologetic political junkie. Hence I will mix it up with any conservative, or liberal for that matter, who totes lies.

Yeah...i watch CNN, but not MSNBC because MSNBC is blatantly bias. Again, which of this points have you misunderstood?? I thought that i was very clear in what i wrote.

If you "mix it up" with people who lies, then why are you not using your ignorant logic to complain to MSNBC about their unfair, double-standard coverage??? Hell, even MSNBC reporter admitted to it!! Why don't you catch a Taxi to the MSNBC headquarter (wherever that may be)??

 

[SonRunner]

We are now comparing communist 3rd world country versus our democratic free United States of America??? Are you really that ignorant??!! Your in-laws should be shooting you just about now! WTF! This has to be one of the worst argument that i have heard in a while! Mind boggling!

As for the 2nd point...maybe you missed this part in my post:
"So, do i believe in spreading the wealth?? No...there is plenty of that already today...why would i want more??"

What part of this do you not understand?? Hello??

Exactly, the country creates the opportunities. A 3rd world country has less opportunity for a few more reasons than lower taxes.

Nobody is going to be shooting anybody. The reason you're in this country is because Americans fought for Vietnam, with guess what... tax payer dollars. Get a clue. If we went with the Libertarian isolationism mentioned earlier in this thread you'd be in Vietnam, for better or for worse. You can't deny that so get off your high horse.

 

[SonRunner]

This video is too funny! Wait for Terry Tate!

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[Thai]

Exactly, the country creates the opportunities. A 3rd world country has less opportunity for a few more reasons than lower taxes.

Nobody is going to be shooting anybody. The reason you're in this country is because Americans fought for Vietnam, with guess what... tax payer dollars. Get a clue. If we went with the Libertarian isolationism mentioned earlier in this thread you'd be in Vietnam, for better or for worse. You can't deny that so get off your high horse.

Now, to clear up your understanding of Vietnam War, the US fought VN for US interests more than anything. "Domino Effect"...remember that?? If not, then ask your in-laws.

When did i say that i want isolationism?? Isn't that what you and RonM are wanting when you guys demand Iraq abandonment?? :bash:

When did i say that i want total abandonment of government??? Again, please read very slowly what i wrote above:

So, do i believe in spreading the wealth?? No...there is plenty of that already today...WHY WOULD I WANT MORE??

Thank you.

 

[SonRunner]

When did i say that i want isolationism?? Isn't that what you and RonM are wanting when you guys demand Iraq abandonment?? :bash:

Is it abandonment when the Iraqi people and Iraqi government wants out of the country? Is it abandonment when even George W Bush is now working on a time-line? The only one who wants to stay there is the McCain campaign. You know what's unfair? The American people spending $10 billion a month on a country with a surplus while our country is in peril. We need to get the hell out of there.

 

[Thai]

Is it abandonment when the Iraqi people and Iraqi government wants out of the country?

Is it abandonment when even George W Bush is now working on a time-line?

The only one who wants to stay there is the McCain campaign.

You know what's unfair? The American people spending $10 billion a month on a country with a surplus while our country is in peril. We need to get the hell out of there.

Oh...ok...thanks for posting that!

But, wait, for $19.99, you also get an INTERNATION CRISIS (as promised by Biden himself) within 6 months of Obama's term AND Obama will make UNPOPULAR decisions! Hmmm, how is that different than what we have now in Iraq?? Hmmm, those Russians are just dying to sink their teeth into a schoolboy like Obama (remember Kennedy fiasco with the Russians??)!

Just to refresh your memory of Kennedy:

Kennedy

 

[SonRunner]

Oh...ok...thanks for posting that!

But, wait, for $19.99, you also get an INTERNATION CRISIS (as promised by Biden himself) within 6 months of Obama's term AND Obama will make UNPOPULAR decisions! Hmmm, how is that different than what we have now in Iraq?? Hmmm, those Russians are just dying to sink their teeth into a schoolboy like Obama (remember Kennedy fiasco with the Russians??)!

Just to refresh your memory of Kennedy:

Kennedy

 

[Thai]

Well here's the part you're missing. If you trust Biden about Obama being tested, logic suggests you would also trust Biden when he says that Obama is best able to handle it... right???

I don't know...there were a lot of squirming (sp?) around by Obama and Biden after that speech....

Unpopular decisions...hmmm, maybe he is seeing that Bush was not all that crazy with his decisions!

 

[SonRunner]

I don't know...there were a lot of squirming (sp?) around by Obama and Biden after that speech....

Unpopular decisions...hmmm, maybe he is seeing that Bush was not all that crazy with his decisions!

Not likely. :

 

[Thai]

Not likely. :

With that, i think that we can agree to disagree...of course, it took us 10 million pages to come to that conclusion! I am going to bow out of this thread for now...boy, it's been tiring for my fingers!! My wife is getting suspicious of my internet activity!

As always, it is nice to argue with you guys even though we have different beliefs...and as SonRunner said earlier, i hope that no one takes it personally and i would be honored to wheel with you guys.

Have a good weekend...yes, even SonRunner and RonM.

 

[SonRunner]

My wife is getting suspicious of my internet activity!

Yeah I should probably stop too. Every time my wife hears me typing she says "You're not arguing on the Internet again are you?"

:lmao: