Why I ditched my LR Discovery for a 4Runner

that makes two of us. I had an 04 CKD 300Tdi Defender XS with all the trimmings and though it was as reliable as ever it was so noisy that my wife (and friends) called it the deffener. sold it for a massive loss and imported my Surf,.. never looked back (except when i have to cross VERY deep water)
 

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Welcome

Hello:

Sadly....
...'same experience with a Chevrolet (S-10) Blazer. It was a disappointment, and I feel your pain.

Happily...
...'same experiences with the 4Runner.

~~
4DR
 
Seeing all the bad posts about the Discovery II I felt I should speak up for the lucky few having a good experience. I just bought a new 07 T4R SR5 4WD but I traded my wife's explorer on it nit my 00 Disco. And thinking about it now I ironically traded an 01 Tacoma TRD on the Disco 5 years ago. It does have it quircks but I have not had any catostrophic problems just regular maintainence - although more expensive than other cars maintainence bills. I have a take home work car so I have only driven the Rover 25K miles in the five years I have owned it. The ride is like no other 4x4 I have ever owned and like everyone else said the looks you get and a feeling of being above everyone else, height wise and prestige wise, is is great. I bought it with 52K and it now has 77K on the odometer. I bought it bone stock and have heavily modified it over the years , TJM bullbar, OME Lift, Cold Air Intake, 33" Mud Tires to name a few. It definately stands out in the crowd and gets looks anywhere I go. I do cringe if I ever need to go to the dealer for anything and there is only one dealer in the state though it is only about 20 miles away. All in all I do not regret trading the Tacoma on it though I do miss it sometimes. Now my biggest problem is deciding which SUV to drive when I run errands.
 

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Hey DWW,

That's great you've had a good experience with your Rover. I have heard only just a few stories like yours.

I sold my 2000 Disco when it had about 75K miles on it, and like yours, it never stranded me anywhere, but as the miles increased, the repairs did become more serious and more expensive with each trip to the shop.

I agree, the Rovers LOOK KILLER!! Like nothing else on the road!

BTW, great looking Disco you have! What kind of tires are those?
Coopers or Micky Thompsons??:D
 
Thanks for the compliment. I am keeping my fingers crossed that nothing major goes wrong. It is paid off and is not my daily driver so I wont be completely screwed if it dies on me. The tires are Super Swamper TrXus.
 
DWW,

You make 2 very valid and important points in your last post.

The fact that your Disco is 1. Paid for, and 2. not your daily driver does make a signifigant difference IMO.

My Disco was my DD and was not paid for, so to have large repair bills on top of a large monthly payment was a bit overwhelming to me.

Anyway, good luck man....love those tires!!!:cool:
 
Thanks. They are the best mud tires I have owned. They have suprisingly great and quiet street manners but also do a good job off road. And here is my daily driver. She doesnt cost me a cent either and someone else pays for all the gas. :)
 

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I've had a 97 Defender, 2001 Discovery, 2003 Discovery, and my wife had a 2005 Range Rover HSE. Not a single problem with any of them ever.
 
"90% of all LandRover's ever built are still on the road. The other 10% made it home.":cool:

A classic quote I stole from an adventurer on Expedition Portal.

I just think LRs don't like to sit in the garage, be driven back and forth to malls, and hate to be washed and waxed. If you do, they rebel by crapping out on you and causing you expensive repairs.

Now drive them across Africa, through 4 feet of mud, over jagged rocks, and submerge them underwater, and they will be just fine!:D
 
Had a buddy of mine that use to have a Disco, I believe it was a 97, and it was a STICK! He said it was one of just a few ever sold in the states. Anyway, towards the end, around 80k miles, he would have a milk crate in the back with bottles of fluid, like steering fluild, brake fluid, etc... Said everytime he fills up the gas tank, he has to top off the fluids, said the thing leaked everything, and burnt oil like mad.

Another had one of those Calloway Range Rovers, the super charged one, I think a 2000? Anyway, that thing would drop the driveshaft almost monthly, and the electronic gremlins that ran in that thing was horrible. You KNOW you've got an unreliable POS when you consider a BMW 740il "reliable", which is what he traded the RR in on. He went from a BMW 740, to the RR, and back to the 740, which was in the shop quite a bit too.
 
wow...this is kind of an old post so I don't mean to resurface it...but I do have experience with the Toureg and Discovery 2 among others until my current 08 4runner.

Disco 2 was the first SUV i drove. Mind you, I'm not a big off-road enthusiast or anything of the sort. In fact, I was looking at a Cadillac Escalade since it had just been changed into that boxier type which, for once, distinguished itself from the standard Chevy Tahoe and GMC Denali. I believe it's the model before the current rounded-looking one. I just wanted something big and with AWD/4WD....hey gas was only $1.09 or something back then in California...

Never thought I'd even look into owning a Land Rover (partially because of my dislike of anything Ford...since they became the parent company of LR just before the purchase) but I needed something with 4 wheel drive, and YES, the LR Driving School and all their LR backed off-road expeditions seemed extremely alluring...as is all the technology (or what I thought was a glutton of technology) stuffed into their SUV. I always thought of the Disco as being a bit of a Soccer-Mom SUV where I'm from, but I was thoroughly impressed with the experience of looking at one. I thought...snow and dirt shouldn't be a problem in this thing.

It was a black SE model, 4.0 V8. Nice khaki leather on the inside, decent sound system.

Never had a problem the whole time I had it (mechanically). then again, got rid of it at 45,000 miles. Did have my fair share of fun in it though...drove it up to its doors in the ocean (im sure the rust on the bottom is a real pain in the ass for the next owner) and got it deep in soft sand out in the desert...mud...all kinds of fun. never deflated my tires or anything (street michelins) and the thing gets itself in and out of trouble fine. It didn't exactly pick up and go when you gassed it...but the torque was there to get you up and down things, etc. She was thirsty though, and on the freeway, would have to downshift at any slight touch of the pedal when you're above 65...it just had no high end power to just kick it up a few miles per hour.

one big complaint was the interior set up. I know many of you are nostalgic for that high seat and all that, but getting into the rear seat of the car was a plain, pain in the ass. I got so many complaints about the tires rubbing someone's dress or pants or whatever since the wheel well was so close to the entry point to the rear. and the backseat, even with the nice leather, was prone to making anyone's ass numb on a ride more than one hour. It was like sitting on a metal bench with a sheet of leather over it. just way too uncomfortable for such a pricey car.

New Land Rover smell is killer though...i DO miss that.

The Toureg is a recent addition to the family...my sister drives one. V6, all wheel drive. Comfortable seats, nice little gimmicks on the inside and decent sound system.

got to play with it a few times and I gotta say, although at first glance it looks nice, the quality of the materials used on the interior is pretty cheap. All the nobs have a crappy plastic-y feel and there's just no refinement to it.

the Engine DOES sound lovely though. it's got a real throaty sound, uncommon in V6 utes, and the power is plentiful. only thing is, there's been an ECU glitch with touregs that I don't know if they've figured out yet, but it gets power surges at odd times, and complete lack of power/no response from throttle when going up hill from a stop. Which, I can't imagine is the safest thing when off-roading. the ground clearance looks like crap though...i think it's another one of those cars meant for AWD for bad road conditions, not for taking into the dirt or brush or anything.

and yes, THEY DO NAIL YOU FOR $3000 FOR BRAKES AT THE 20,000 MILE CHECK UP. RIDICULOUS!!!!!

after the Disco 2, I drove a smaller car, until I sold that and picked up a Honda Element. Sure, it was a downgrade from the LR...haha like, degrading downgrade, but it was SO reliable, SO good on gas, and SO roomy on the inside (once you put the seats up, its practically a truck bed on the inside) and the 4WD worked...REALLY well for ice and snow. It became the road trip car of choice among friends...so comfortable and the air conditioning was killer. Sound system wasn't bad and it was easy to clean. two of my best friends at over six foot (6'4 and 6'6) and they had plenty of leg and head room in the back. the engine was punch off the line (freeway passing with a full car and luggage is a different story...hence i upgraded to a v8 4Runner)

120K, no problems, sold the car for what i've really wanted, a white v8 4WD 4Runner....minus the interior room and passenger leg room, it has been amazing to me in the short 2 or 3 months i've owned it. can't wait to get it dirty
 
importheinekin said:
wow...this is kind of an old post so I don't mean to resurface it...but I do have experience with the Toureg and Discovery 2 among others until my current 08 4runner.

Disco 2 was the first SUV i drove. Mind you, I'm not a big off-road enthusiast or anything of the sort. In fact, I was looking at a Cadillac Escalade since it had just been changed into that boxier type which, for once, distinguished itself from the standard Chevy Tahoe and GMC Denali. I believe it's the model before the current rounded-looking one. I just wanted something big and with AWD/4WD....hey gas was only $1.09 or something back then in California...

Never thought I'd even look into owning a Land Rover (partially because of my dislike of anything Ford...since they became the parent company of LR just before the purchase) but I needed something with 4 wheel drive, and YES, the LR Driving School and all their LR backed off-road expeditions seemed extremely alluring...as is all the technology (or what I thought was a glutton of technology) stuffed into their SUV. I always thought of the Disco as being a bit of a Soccer-Mom SUV where I'm from, but I was thoroughly impressed with the experience of looking at one. I thought...snow and dirt shouldn't be a problem in this thing.

It was a black SE model, 4.0 V8. Nice khaki leather on the inside, decent sound system.

Never had a problem the whole time I had it (mechanically). then again, got rid of it at 45,000 miles. Did have my fair share of fun in it though...drove it up to its doors in the ocean (im sure the rust on the bottom is a real pain in the ass for the next owner) and got it deep in soft sand out in the desert...mud...all kinds of fun. never deflated my tires or anything (street michelins) and the thing gets itself in and out of trouble fine. It didn't exactly pick up and go when you gassed it...but the torque was there to get you up and down things, etc. She was thirsty though, and on the freeway, would have to downshift at any slight touch of the pedal when you're above 65...it just had no high end power to just kick it up a few miles per hour.

one big complaint was the interior set up. I know many of you are nostalgic for that high seat and all that, but getting into the rear seat of the car was a plain, pain in the ass. I got so many complaints about the tires rubbing someone's dress or pants or whatever since the wheel well was so close to the entry point to the rear. and the backseat, even with the nice leather, was prone to making anyone's ass numb on a ride more than one hour. It was like sitting on a metal bench with a sheet of leather over it. just way too uncomfortable for such a pricey car.

New Land Rover smell is killer though...i DO miss that.

The Toureg is a recent addition to the family...my sister drives one. V6, all wheel drive. Comfortable seats, nice little gimmicks on the inside and decent sound system.

got to play with it a few times and I gotta say, although at first glance it looks nice, the quality of the materials used on the interior is pretty cheap. All the nobs have a crappy plastic-y feel and there's just no refinement to it.

the Engine DOES sound lovely though. it's got a real throaty sound, uncommon in V6 utes, and the power is plentiful. only thing is, there's been an ECU glitch with touregs that I don't know if they've figured out yet, but it gets power surges at odd times, and complete lack of power/no response from throttle when going up hill from a stop. Which, I can't imagine is the safest thing when off-roading. the ground clearance looks like crap though...i think it's another one of those cars meant for AWD for bad road conditions, not for taking into the dirt or brush or anything.

and yes, THEY DO NAIL YOU FOR $3000 FOR BRAKES AT THE 20,000 MILE CHECK UP. RIDICULOUS!!!!!

after the Disco 2, I drove a smaller car, until I sold that and picked up a Honda Element. Sure, it was a downgrade from the LR...haha like, degrading downgrade, but it was SO reliable, SO good on gas, and SO roomy on the inside (once you put the seats up, its practically a truck bed on the inside) and the 4WD worked...REALLY well for ice and snow. It became the road trip car of choice among friends...so comfortable and the air conditioning was killer. Sound system wasn't bad and it was easy to clean. two of my best friends at over six foot (6'4 and 6'6) and they had plenty of leg and head room in the back. the engine was punch off the line (freeway passing with a full car and luggage is a different story...hence i upgraded to a v8 4Runner)

120K, no problems, sold the car for what i've really wanted, a white v8 4WD 4Runner....minus the interior room and passenger leg room, it has been amazing to me in the short 2 or 3 months i've owned it. can't wait to get it dirty

As the OP I can vouch for the crappy rear seats in the Disco. Really hard to get into, and easy to get a dress dirty on the tires. I did like the second sunroof over the backseats though.

I am 6'3 and anytime I was first in line at a light, I had to lean way up to see the light because of the angle of the windshield. I also did not like the way the Disco's tailgate swings open to the side. It wont stay open if you are on even a slight slope. I LOVE the 4Runner gate swings up and is a perfect umbrella in the rain while loading or unloading the truck.

I remember replacing brake pads AND rotors all the time on the Rover......WTF? I babied that truck!!

So glad that Rover is long gone!!!:awais::
 
LandRvr Convert said:
... I also did not like the way the Disco's tailgate swings open to the side. It wont stay open if you are on even a slight slope. I LOVE the 4Runner gate swings up and is a perfect umbrella in the rain while loading or unloading the truck.

I remember replacing brake pads AND rotors all the time on the Rover......WTF? I babied that truck!!

So glad that Rover is long gone!!!:awais::

Someone admiring my Disco II remarked that the way the rear door swings open left to right was designed for a right side drive vehicle (that parks with the curb on the left), and not adapting it to the left side drive for the north america and other markets was a testament to British smootiness, or stubborness.

Concur on the brake pads. The Disco II was soo damn heavy. My 4Runner is on its second set at 53K
:D
 
Wrong Side Drivers

Shimajilosan said:
Someone admiring my Disco II remarked that the way the rear door swings open left to right was designed for a right side drive vehicle (that parks with the curb on the left), and not adapting it to the left side drive for the north america and other markets was a testament to British smootiness, or stubborness.
:D

You could say the same for the GX470, RAV4, and Honda CRV.

Maybe an aversion to retooling vs. "smootiness" (or a combination of both!).
 
Re: Wrong Side Drivers

Gromulus said:
You could say the same for the GX470, RAV4, and Honda CRV.

Maybe an aversion to retooling vs. "smootiness" (or a combination of both!).

If only those vehicles copy the G-wagen, then we would all be happy, world hunger would be gone, and all can rejoice with new hope! Boy, i sound like a Presidential candidate! :D
 
"90% of all LandRover's ever built are still on the road. The other 10% made it home.":cool:

A classic quote I stole from an adventurer on Expedition Portal.

"Do you know why the British drink their tea warm? Because Land Rover also makes their Refrigerators..."

Another LR quote I've heard.
 
As the OP I can vouch for the crappy rear seats in the Disco. Really hard to get into, and easy to get a dress dirty on the tires. I did like the second sunroof over the backseats though.

I am 6'3 and anytime I was first in line at a light, I had to lean way up to see the light because of the angle of the windshield. I also did not like the way the Disco's tailgate swings open to the side. It wont stay open if you are on even a slight slope. I LOVE the 4Runner gate swings up and is a perfect umbrella in the rain while loading or unloading the truck.

I remember replacing brake pads AND rotors all the time on the Rover......WTF? I babied that truck!!

So glad that Rover is long gone!!!:awais::

Land rovers are beasts and what are you talking about my disco 2 is only on its first set of brakes at 69k miles. And the rear seats in the disco are one of the best features its stadium seating you can see everything and they are very comfortable. I would not hesitate buying another Disco or defender, the range rover i wouldnt buy.
 
Land rovers are beasts.

LRs are extremely overrated "beasts"...they are not that great off-road, nor are they good on-road...and their reliability is absolutely the worst, by far! In other words, they are living on their reputation of many moons ago...and right now, their heritage is in the toilet.
 

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