Worst Problem with 5th gen??

It may have been mentioned already but... My 4th gen had a handle to assist people getting in inside near each door. The 5th gen only has them for the front passenger. I guess you have to get the Lexus GX to get the handles back.
 
On my '15 SR5P my only two would be, I have to give a decent amount of gas to get it to move in reverse and the damn hood vibrates so much I actually pulled over because I thought I forgot to close it. All said, this thing is solid, I also have an 05 sport edition with 140k on it and have only changed the alternator.
 
TOY2G said:
One member has already had to have his engine rebuilt (if I remember correctly it was around 25k).

My 2013 SR5 has a knock that has been there since day one, the dealer says its normal, but our other 2013 SR5 and our 2010 TE do not make the noise.

Lastly, our 2010 TE (with 90k miles) has an oil leak the front pass side.

All and all, the 5th gen is the second best Toyota I have owned (We have owned 52, not an exaggeration). I would only ever trade it in if I found a new Landcruiser for an amazing price.
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My 2012 makes this same noise but only at idle. I've listened to it 4 other 5th gens and they all made the same noise. I am gonna try a thicker oil next go around to see if it quites down a little. This is my only complaint with the vehicle at 53k miles.
 
spooln30 said:
My 2012 makes this same noise but only at idle. I've listened to it 4 other 5th gens and they all made the same noise. I am gonna try a thicker oil next go around to see if it quites down a little. This is my only complaint with the vehicle at 53k miles.
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I would NOT try a thicker oil. Toyota designed this engine for 0W20 oil. Thicker oil will likely not flow as well through what could be some very tight passages. Just live with the noise.
 
What's wrong with not wanting my 53k engine to sound like it's got a rod knock? Manufacturers only use the 0w20 oil now days for fuel efficiency and not for any other reason. The 0w20 oil is like fn water. I'm only planning on running a 5w20 synthetic next time so it's not like I'm going to run straight 50w. Btw automotive engineers aren't always the smartest people. It's usually the technicians/mechanics like myself that see the every day problems vehicles have and can probably come up with something better then what the so called engineers designed. Obviously there's something not right with the 4.0 engines in the 4runners for them to make such a noise at idle. I am not the only person who has noticed this knocking sound. Toyota engines are usually quiet and you really only hear the injectors clicking at idle. Hell my dad's 99 Avalon with 250k is quieter then my 2012 4runner at idle. I used my stethoscope to pin point where this noise is coming from and it's mainly around the cylinder head area. More noticable near the front of the engine so I suspect it's coming from the timing chain or its components.
 
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8.7k miles on my 2015 SR5 4x4 and no issues. Well, there's a minor thing that bugs me. My brake pedal makes a squishing sound. I test drove 2 different 4Rs and they all made the same sound. I thought it'd go away but it hasn't. I usually have a podcast or music playing though so it doesn't actually bother me.

Oh, and I hate that I can't use my navigation while moving.
 
I have a 2014 TE. Biggest issue was Entune. No longer issue since last update and new Iphone and next is from wife. She is only 5 feet tall, loves to drive it, but needs climbing gear to get in and then to rappel out.
 
spooln30 said:
What's wrong with not wanting my 53k engine to sound like it's got a rod knock? Manufacturers only use the 0w20 oil now days for fuel efficiency and not for any other reason. The 0w20 oil is like fn water. I'm only planning on running a 5w20 synthetic next time so it's not like I'm going to run straight 50w. Btw automotive engineers aren't always the smartest people. It's usually the technicians/mechanics like myself that see the every day problems vehicles have and can probably come up with something better then what the so called engineers designed. Obviously there's something not right with the 4.0 engines in the 4runners for them to make such a noise at idle. I am not the only person who has noticed this knocking sound. Toyota engines are usually quiet and you really only hear the injectors clicking at idle. Hell my dad's 99 Avalon with 250k is quieter then my 2012 4runner at idle. I used my stethoscope to pin point where this noise is coming from and it's mainly around the cylinder head area. More noticable near the front of the engine so I suspect it's coming from the timing chain or its components.
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Correct engineers have an agenda. To keep their jobs by changing things. I saw this happen every year as the new Volvos came out at work. One year nothing at all changed in the engine and all of a sudden the oil change interval was bumped up to 7500 miles from 5000. Purely a marketing ploy since 5000 miles at the time barely kept them from sludging. They changed so many things that worked fine and then turned into a complete nightmare. When I used 5-20 oil in my ls400 years ago when the motor was reasonably young you could smell the oil burning at the tailpipe. Seriously I couldn't believe it. With 10-30 no smell. Im guessing that 5-20, 5-30 or even 10-30 would work fine in a gen5. Not in Alaska though. If the knocking noise bothered me I for sure would bump up the viscosity.
 
First post in many years....

I agree with much of what I've read and my first (of 9) T4Rs was 1994. I just bought a '15 2WD SR5 Prem for my wife and am wondering who laid out the steering wheel controls. Admittedly, I'm not going to get used to them and should expect they're updated from my '11 Tundra, but volume control? Really?

I've bought 'em before and I'll buy 'em again. Great truck. (Now someone ask why I even waste production line time by buying 2WD...). Ha
 
camerontopa said:
I agree with you on the paint, the quality sucks. Having a white vehicle really shows a lot of those pinhole size rust spots too.
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Clay bar is your friend. All cars have this, but it stands out more on white paint. The rust is not from the vehicle, but from the metal dust that got embedded in your paint. Get a clay bar (please, please, please follow the directions), and then wax it. After a good clay bar job, the paint will be just as smooth as when you drove it off the lot.

As for following the directions of the clay bar, do not drop it on the ground. Last thing you want to do is drop it and get a stone in there. Rubbing a clay bar with a stone in it will definitely scratch the paint.
 
spooln30 said:
What's wrong with not wanting my 53k engine to sound like it's got a rod knock? Manufacturers only use the 0w20 oil now days for fuel efficiency and not for any other reason. The 0w20 oil is like fn water. I'm only planning on running a 5w20 synthetic next time so it's not like I'm going to run straight 50w. Btw automotive engineers aren't always the smartest people. It's usually the technicians/mechanics like myself that see the every day problems vehicles have and can probably come up with something better then what the so called engineers designed. Obviously there's something not right with the 4.0 engines in the 4runners for them to make such a noise at idle. I am not the only person who has noticed this knocking sound. Toyota engines are usually quiet and you really only hear the injectors clicking at idle. Hell my dad's 99 Avalon with 250k is quieter then my 2012 4runner at idle. I used my stethoscope to pin point where this noise is coming from and it's mainly around the cylinder head area. More noticable near the front of the engine so I suspect it's coming from the timing chain or its components.
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Kennyr44 said:
Correct engineers have an agenda. To keep their jobs by changing things. I saw this happen every year as the new Volvos came out at work. One year nothing at all changed in the engine and all of a sudden the oil change interval was bumped up to 7500 miles from 5000. Purely a marketing ploy since 5000 miles at the time barely kept them from sludging. They changed so many things that worked fine and then turned into a complete nightmare. When I used 5-20 oil in my ls400 years ago when the motor was reasonably young you could smell the oil burning at the tailpipe. Seriously I couldn't believe it. With 10-30 no smell. Im guessing that 5-20, 5-30 or even 10-30 would work fine in a gen5. Not in Alaska though. If the knocking noise bothered me I for sure would bump up the viscosity.
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You guys are funny!
 
spooln30 said:
What's wrong with not wanting my 53k engine to sound like it's got a rod knock? Manufacturers only use the 0w20 oil now days for fuel efficiency and not for any other reason. The 0w20 oil is like fn water. I'm only planning on running a 5w20 synthetic next time so it's not like I'm going to run straight 50w. Btw automotive engineers aren't always the smartest people. It's usually the technicians/mechanics like myself that see the every day problems vehicles have and can probably come up with something better then what the so called engineers designed. Obviously there's something not right with the 4.0 engines in the 4runners for them to make such a noise at idle. I am not the only person who has noticed this knocking sound. Toyota engines are usually quiet and you really only hear the injectors clicking at idle. Hell my dad's 99 Avalon with 250k is quieter then my 2012 4runner at idle. I used my stethoscope to pin point where this noise is coming from and it's mainly around the cylinder head area. More noticable near the front of the engine so I suspect it's coming from the timing chain or its components.
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I pose a question to you spooln: Suppose you owned a diesel - any diesel. And I said to you, 'man that motor makes noise'. Wouldn't your response be something like 'it's supposed to do that, it's inherent in the design'?
I don't see how our motor is different - there's a lot of whirly bits in a dual VVTi motor, and isn't a little tick-tick fairly common with FI?
 
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