Would you buy 265/75R16 Duratracs E for the price of C?
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JayRolla
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No never, if C's are available for the same price or cheaper go with the c's. E's are heavy load for towing and ride like a rock. I know because my wifes SUV has them.
white_n_slow
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I'd prefer to have the C's, all factors being equal. I have to air down my E's (Hankook) pretty low to get the ride quality back, and I'm sure my mpg suffers.
JayRolla
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Yeah I could see this if hauling 5000lb's.
KidVermicious
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I have E Duratracs on our '99 and they're fine. If you're going to be off pavement at all, I wouldn't run a Duratrac in anything less than an E. Too many reports of torn and pinched sidewalls.
But I won't buy a Duratrac again anway. Most overrated tire ever.
But I won't buy a Duratrac again anway. Most overrated tire ever.
Probably comes from 14 years of driving 3/4 ton diesels. Heck the 4Runner rides better than my car does. But the stiffer carcass is nice when going around corners and rode imperfections. Don't feel it wobbling all around.
MattAK
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Yeah I think I'd be happier with them if I did more serious off-roading and this wasn't my DD. In my case I think I would have been happier with C's even with the thinner sidewalls.
JayRolla
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Hmm, maybe. Dad drove 50' rigs for most of his life and im sure he never would run those e loads. LOL, guess to each his own.
JayRolla
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E loads can puncture just like a C load. The extra weight is not good either. They load is for hauling weight, not offroad ability.
MattAK
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Not gonna argue that. Some might like the heavier sidewall for OR though, depending on how much you plan to scrub them. :cheers:
BrianSD_42
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Es are not better than Cs. Ds are not better than Cs or better than Es etc. Certainly not from a value perspective.
If anything I would suggest you try to find out the ACTUAL weight per tire for the model and size you are looking at.
Looking at 33" sized tires:
My General Grabber AT2s 285x75x16 are 59 lbs per tire and rated D
BFG TAs 285x75x16 / 33s are ~ 55 lbs per and rated E
then looking at 31.5 - 32" tires
* General Grabber AT2s 265x75x16 (31.5") are 53 lbs per tire and rated E only
* Cooper Discover ATPs 265x75x16 (31.5") are 41 lbs per tire, off road rated and come in load range C.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/d....do&fl=&pc=11803&counter=0&ar=75&rd=16&cs=265
Consider that the stock tires probably did not weigh more than 40 lbs per tire. Now consider you are pushing a tire weighing 59 lbs. That is nearly 50% increase in weight per wheel. It does matter!
I've got the bigger 285s (@ 32.8") but I'd consider going back to the 31.5 and in a much lighter tire in a heartbeat. In fact my friend just bought a set of those lighter weight Cooper Discover tires. He has a Toyota as well. Perhaps down the road I can convince him to let me try them out for a for a few days.
If anything I would suggest you try to find out the ACTUAL weight per tire for the model and size you are looking at.
Looking at 33" sized tires:
My General Grabber AT2s 285x75x16 are 59 lbs per tire and rated D
BFG TAs 285x75x16 / 33s are ~ 55 lbs per and rated E
then looking at 31.5 - 32" tires
* General Grabber AT2s 265x75x16 (31.5") are 53 lbs per tire and rated E only
* Cooper Discover ATPs 265x75x16 (31.5") are 41 lbs per tire, off road rated and come in load range C.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/d....do&fl=&pc=11803&counter=0&ar=75&rd=16&cs=265
Consider that the stock tires probably did not weigh more than 40 lbs per tire. Now consider you are pushing a tire weighing 59 lbs. That is nearly 50% increase in weight per wheel. It does matter!
I've got the bigger 285s (@ 32.8") but I'd consider going back to the 31.5 and in a much lighter tire in a heartbeat. In fact my friend just bought a set of those lighter weight Cooper Discover tires. He has a Toyota as well. Perhaps down the road I can convince him to let me try them out for a for a few days.
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MyHigh
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I actually had that happen,
Went to Americas tire and ordered a set of Duratracs load C and the installer put a set of E's on my truck. I actually drove it for two days and was very upset with my purchase, the performance of my truck took a dive, not that we have much to begin with. I have a manual and noticed I needed to hold gears a little longer and run the RPM's higher. Then on small hills that I could easily go up in third gear, I was needing to drop it down to second, which is huge!!
Then it came down to ride quality, now I didn't have much to compare it too because I had just purchased the rig not long ago, but the ride was very much so, a harsher ride. I remember thinking I could feel a penny on the road if I ran over it.
If I remember correctly it was only about 6-8 pounds difference between the 275/70/17 load C and E but that's a lot when it's figured in as your rotational mass. ( if that's the right word to use). So I eventually went to let some air out of my tires, trying to get them a little softer and while doing so I noticed they installed the wrong load range tires. So back I went and got the proper load range C installed and I love them!!
Went to Americas tire and ordered a set of Duratracs load C and the installer put a set of E's on my truck. I actually drove it for two days and was very upset with my purchase, the performance of my truck took a dive, not that we have much to begin with. I have a manual and noticed I needed to hold gears a little longer and run the RPM's higher. Then on small hills that I could easily go up in third gear, I was needing to drop it down to second, which is huge!!
Then it came down to ride quality, now I didn't have much to compare it too because I had just purchased the rig not long ago, but the ride was very much so, a harsher ride. I remember thinking I could feel a penny on the road if I ran over it.
If I remember correctly it was only about 6-8 pounds difference between the 275/70/17 load C and E but that's a lot when it's figured in as your rotational mass. ( if that's the right word to use). So I eventually went to let some air out of my tires, trying to get them a little softer and while doing so I noticed they installed the wrong load range tires. So back I went and got the proper load range C installed and I love them!!
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MattJakobs
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I wouldn't. I just took off 265/75/16 BFG KO2's that were E-rated last week because I didn't like the stiffness and rough ride. They were very harsh on road and not worth it in my opinion. For a DD, you'll like the C-rated's much more. Spend the money for the C-rated tires and be happy for the next 50,000 miles.
MattAK
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Just to add to this, Tirerack thinks that the E rated Duratracs weigh 51 lbs/tire vs the C rated at 45 lbs/tire in 265/75-16.
seems to me the OP has already decided on Cs but the tire shop probably has a set of Es in stock that they want to move. I'd go with what I wanted myself, but might be swayed if the tire shop offered a better deal.
I've got Cs and I'm very happy with them. I don't think they're overrated as mentioned above. I think that they make a decent off road tire that can be comfortably daily driven.
I've got Cs and I'm very happy with them. I don't think they're overrated as mentioned above. I think that they make a decent off road tire that can be comfortably daily driven.
