Whenever I see a nice Jeep it's always so clean it makes me sick
After thinking about it maybe he meant "why would you offroad in something so nice?"
New Jeeps=you better love (and trust) Fiat.
When I started looking for a 4x4 my private mechanic warned me over and over again to stay away from jeep if I wanted to continue to do business with him. I think that says a lot.
I roll with a Jeep crew who all drive Wranglers and XJs. They always scratch their heads wondering how a Yota can keep up with them on the trails. Then they get jealous because I ride with windows up and A/C blasting, while they have their tops/windows down and face masks on to prevent from inhaling dirt. They can't run their A/C because their engines overheat.
I had the opposite experience years ago in CO, my 98 taco walked over obstacles my friend's wrangler had to make a couple tries on. I was locked and he wasn't, but I found the longer wheel base to be the deciding factor. He had to get his whole jeep over at once, my taco had the front wheels past by the time the rear wheels had to contend with it.A while back I had a 2011 taco with the trd off-road package. My sister had a 2011 4 door wrangler. We went off roading. I was impressed/sad at how well her stock jeep did in comparison to my taco
Couple months ago, going up, near the top of Pucker Pass in Moab. Brolifted Silverado coming down passes me and "warns" that "It's pretty steep up ahaid, you might not make it."
And my runner is.. well look below!
Thought about going off but just said "I'll be fine" and he parted with "Hope you don't break anything".
W. T. F.
It was telling that he thought so much of Pucker Pass that he even needed to say something when in reality it's nothing but a nice scenig trail. The "Pucker" part is maybe a 3/10. Probably the worst thing he's ever done![]()
Which video?
To be totally honest, I am a real newbie when it comes to offroad driving. I've done it many times on tame terrain and a couple times on some tough stuff. I've always thought Jeeps were really good platforms, with the short wheel base, solid axle up front, relatively light weight, etc. With the same driver, are our 3rd gens really a match to, or superior to, many of the Jeep platforms? Of course, let's assume equal mods, or equal money spent on mods.
A stock 3rd gen is pretty capable. A few weeks back I took a couple of guys through a pretty tough trail in the national forest. One was a stock 99 with street tires. He didn't have any problems except ground clearance in a few spots. I believe he did have a locker.
I kind of want to get a stock 3rd gen with a rear locker, put some good 265/75/16 tires on it and see how far I can take it.
When it comes to modding it is about the same, I have owned a Cherokee and my buddy is modding his jk while I am doing my 3rd gen. On occasion I would help him look through forum for group buys and online deals. They do have more parts but for quality it is the same price.Stock for stock and the same driver, your base model Wrangler isn't any more capable than a 4Runner. It'll get up some stuff the 4Runner can't climb, and vice versa, depending on whether the specific obstacle favors a shorter or longer wheelbase. An elocked 4Runner will probably make it through more stuff than a base Wrangler. On the other hand, a Rubicon is super-capable with front and rear lockers and a low range tcase and will mop the floor with any stock 4Runner, elocker or not.
Start adding mods and it all becomes meaningless though. Lift, tires, lockers, etc, all game changers. It might be a little cheaper to mod the Jeep than a 3rd gen 4Runner? Dunno. I guarantee it's cheaper to mod my 1st gen than to mod a Jeep, that's all I care about (because #brokeassrustyYotaguy).
This does not factor in reliability. Jeeps break more parts and have more engine trouble, in my experience.
I kind of want to get a stock 3rd gen with a rear locker, put some good 265/75/16 tires on it and see how far I can take it.
Moral of the story is 3rd gen 4Runners are awesome.