Yuge Backorder on TRD Oil Filter

[RichinRidgewood]

8/19/21

PTR4300079

Now i will have to use something else

facepalm

 

[kkqewl]

Amsoil offers one that is comparable.

 

[srsrogerissrs]

that sucks

 

[Rapid_Amble]

Amsoil offers one that is comparable.

Also back ordered

 

[1jzgte]

WIX 57173 from homedepot ship to store $7.57

absolutely recommend wix air filters as well.. nicely made air filter w/ more pleats than OEM

 

[mrblah]

i would just settle with normal OEM filters man... cheap and readily available last time i checked.

 

[RichinRidgewood]

I’m thinking that the Mobil1 filter is the next best thing until the TRD filter are back in stock. I can get them from an Autozone nearby but they are not low budget. $14

M1C-256

Amsoil are expensive and they don’t appear to be out of stock on Amsoil.com

EA15K49

$30 !!!

 

[RichinRidgewood]

Royal Purple 20-968 Oil Filter

Any body have experience with these. They are $16 have metal end caps and gaskets like the TRD filters

Single Part Result - Royal Purple : Royal Purple

 

[RichinRidgewood]

According to bobistheoilguy Royal Purple filters are made by Champion Labs

“Product of the United States” is printed on them so thats good. For all I know they could be the same TRD filters put in a different box

@$13 I ordered 4 of them. That gives me 3-4 years so I’m ok for awhile.

You can get them here:

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/chc-20-968

 

[BorotHex]

I’m thinking that the Mobil1 filter is the next best thing until the TRD filter are back in stock. I can get them from an Autozone nearby but they are not low budget. $14

M1C-256

Amsoil are expensive and they don’t appear to be out of stock on Amsoil.com

EA15K49

$30 !!!

I know these kinds of comments can get turned into “oil threads”, but I’ll say it anyway.

The media in the M1 filter is unquestionably great. All markers of a great filter present themselves…except one.

I found out the hard way that the pressure differential across the M1 filter was strangling my F150 engine.

After the exhaustive process of determining cause, I have advised people to always stick with OEM. It’s the one parameter that engineers are using that we don’t typically talk about, and that to my knowledge is still not stated. In my case, the engine was starved of oil and I only figured it out because I was able to hear slight valve train noise in the cabin. Ended up testing the downstream line with a trusted mechanic and he advised throwing the filter in the trash.

Now, it’s possible for this engine the differential is as good or better than stock. But how do you know? I want the M1 filtration, but I don’t do it anymore. Just take it under advisement and do what you think is best.

 

[Hyde802]

Youll be fine with a regular toyota or a wix.. one could argue that frequent filter changes are more important than what label is on the filter.

Fourwheeler mag did a shootout on oil filters (filters for a 22re) I cant find the article, but here a picture.

Heres another from Bob the oil guy

Best Oil Filter Bob is The Oil Guy or Not? - With Comparison Chart

 

[RichinRidgewood]

Ok so Ive now read that Champion Labs make the Amsoil filter EA15K49, the Toyota filter with TRD logo and the Royal Purple filter 20-968.

These shortages are freak’n ridiculous. First toilet paper and now oil filters wtf?

 

[DingleTower]

These shortages are freak’n ridiculous. First toilet paper and now oil filters wtf?

It's everything. I work in a bike shop. I tell customers multiple times daily 'if you see it in stock, and need it, buy it." Stock is hard to find and quick to disappear.

We try to discourage people from "hoarding" parts though. Only buy what you might reasonably need for the next year.

That being said....I'm glad I bought a big pack of filters in the spring.

 

[dezertbomber]

I know these kinds of comments can get turned into “oil threads”, but I’ll say it anyway.

The media in the M1 filter is unquestionably great. All markers of a great filter present themselves…except one.

I found out the hard way that the pressure differential across the M1 filter was strangling my F150 engine.

My 08 F150, notorious for the phaser and VCT solenoid issue, has a canister oil filter in which you unscrew the entire filter. This is when to use OEM strictly.

The 4R uses a cartridge filter, where the flow components and cap are the same, and we just change out the filter element alone. Since the filter element is not as drastic of a potential difference as changing out the entire canister filter, I would lean toward it being far safer to experiment with brands.

I used the Mobile 1 filter from Autozone as well and I'm sure it's working just fine, but not sure how I'd really tell the difference without measuring anything lol. It was my first oil change with the 4R, so we'll see how things look in 10K miles...

 

[badattitude]

yes, the Royal Purple is exactly like the TRD, I cant find these either!

 

[cbaty08]

i would just settle with normal OEM filters man... cheap and readily available last time i checked.

This is what I just did this morning.

Purchased the standard, and put in a (backorder) order for 3 TRD filters.

 

[RichinRidgewood]

yes, the Royal Purple is exactly like the TRD, I cant find these either!

I posted the Summit link up a few replies

 

[kenwilliams0803]

It's everything. I work in a bike shop. I tell customers multiple times daily 'if you see it in stock, and need it, buy it." Stock is hard to find and quick to disappear.



We try to discourage people from "hoarding" parts though. Only buy what you might reasonably need for the next year.



That being said....I'm glad I bought a big pack of filters in the spring.

It IS everything. Not just new cars, not just microchips, etc. Raw materials are through the roof and availability is down. Shipping is through the roof, you have to fight for the space, and containers (if you use them) are up thousands of percent. Labor is impossible to come by. Sick days are rampant due to covid (or claimed as that). This is currently spanning all industries. I work in automotive myself, but all industries are feeling the pinch, and bad.

I have customers with certain products on order since February and they may not get them until next year. We even send a crew of sales guys down to help work the line at our main plant just about every week now. Salaried employees making six figures or even $200K in some cases doing $15/hr production line work. Yep it's that bad. I've done it myself. It helps a little with the labor problem but we just can't get caught up overall. It's going to be a while before everyone digs themselves out of this hole. It's a deep one. We all need to be mindful of that as consumers.

My company is all about "one team, one dream" but its going to take some time here, for everyone I see and talk to.

 

[osugsxr]

It IS everything. Not just new cars, not just microchips, etc. Raw materials are through the roof and availability is down. Shipping is through the roof, you have to fight for the space, and containers (if you use them) are up thousands of percent. Labor is impossible to come by. Sick days are rampant due to covid (or claimed as that). This is currently spanning all industries. I work in automotive myself, but all industries are feeling the pinch, and bad.

I have customers with certain products on order since February and they may not get them until next year. We even send a crew of sales guys down to help work the line at our main plant just about every week now. Salaried employees making six figures or even $200K in some cases doing $15/hr production line work. Yep it's that bad. I've done it myself. It helps a little with the labor problem but we just can't get caught up overall. It's going to be a while before everyone digs themselves out of this hole. It's a deep one. We all need to be mindful of that as consumers.

My company is all about "one team, one dream" but its going to take some time here, for everyone I see and talk to.

agree one team one dream, should hopefully get better once only fans does away with porn.

 

[seatia]

My 08 F150, notorious for the phaser and VCT solenoid issue, has a canister oil filter in which you unscrew the entire filter. This is when to use OEM strictly.

The 4R uses a cartridge filter, where the flow components and cap are the same, and we just change out the filter element alone. Since the filter element is not as drastic of a potential difference as changing out the entire canister filter, I would lean toward it being far safer to experiment with brands.

I used the Mobile 1 filter from Autozone as well and I'm sure it's working just fine, but not sure how I'd really tell the difference without measuring anything lol. It was my first oil change with the 4R, so we'll see how things look in 10K miles...

Probably the best way is to send the oil samples to a lab.
They can tell you the size of the particles let thru the filter if you ask.

These days it's hard to find the micron rating of most filters.
Too small and you may starve for oil and/or end up going over relief with no filtration at all and too large and the particles will accelerate engine wear.

A safe bet is just to use the oem and change more often.
I buy retail at a local Toyota dealer and they are less than 4 bucks apiece.