[4RunnerAquasport]

Again with the sitting around all Summer? Lol
I haven't popped in here for awhile and here you have another batch of detailed installs documented.
Good stuff!
And of course you can't just clean some rust and put a quick coat of rustoleum on your skid like the rest of us.
I was passing through Va a couple weeks ago, went up to the Edinburg/Taskers gap atv trails. Beautiful area.
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[indoyota]

Good stuff man! I'm currently waiting on Eimkeith's PCK bracket to be delivered soon. Will be using your guide to help me with the install. Thanks!

[y=mx+b]

Originally Posted by 4RunnerAquasport

Again with the sitting around all Summer? Lol
I haven't popped in here for awhile and here you have another batch of detailed installs documented.
Good stuff!
And of course you can't just clean some rust and put a quick coat of rustoleum on your skid like the rest of us.
I was passing through Va a couple weeks ago, went up to the Edinburg/Taskers gap atv trails. Beautiful area.
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hahaha. Yeah I try to keep myself busy lol. Was trying to do as much as I can while I was working and had income lol. Back to school I'm working too, just not as many hours.

Still need to retroactively take some pics for the suspension install writeup, then it will be ready to post a stand-alone writeup

Nice, I've been wanting to check out the Peters Mill Run/Taskers Gap area

[MacRendar]

Originally Posted by y=mx+b

I've a few threads on axle being offset, which is where I pieced together the axle scrubbing left to right. Its more prominent if you have a wheel offset/spacers that makes the tires flush with the fenders, rather than inset like the stock wheels are. There are adjustable aftermarket panhard bars that can be extended to center the axle, but they don't fix the panhard angle

I heard about the Panhard Correction Kit from somewhere down the grapevine either on here or Facebook. I'm not sure if there are other aftermarket PCKs, but Eimkeith is a 4runner owner with a small business, so I like supporting that

The roll center stuff I didn't know about, but read it from Eimkeith's Site and did some more research on it to learn more


For order of Mods, my suggestion would be to start with tires and go offroading with a group, then upgrade as you see fit. For me, the first time out an ice chunk went through my radiator, so I made a little filler plate for the gap under the stock bumper cover (RCI sells something similar). Then, I realized the stock tie downs in the front weren't really strong enough for recovery, so I purchased some aftermarket recovery points. On the next trip, I was dragging a lot and ripped out the stock skids on some rocks, so I made a skid plate. Skid plate prevented damage from dragging, but didn't really solve my ground clearance or required articulation for the trails I was going on, so then I purchased a suspension setup and larger tires. With the larger tires, I'm probably going to have to remove my fender liners, which exposes the air intake, so I purchased a Snorkel (There are alternatives if snorkel isn't you cup of tea, such as cowl intake or internal snorkel). Now I've dragged my frame across some rocky areas, so I purchased sliders to keep my doors/body safe.

Making upgrades and modifications as you need them is a great way to not spend too much money, and also have your 4runner purposed built for your needs.

Yup. I just put 32" a/t tires on it this week, got a 2" daystar kit coming as well to hopefully be installed next Saturday... I've been to the OHV trails at Uwharrie a few times now which has led me to this point..

Oh yeah, and wiring a VSC delete switch in too... good bye BEEP BEEP+stuck. I need to secure access to a dynamic power supply so that I can confidently test/troubleshoot my 4-lo/center diff actuators. 4-hi has been plenty so far. Clearance is absolute dogsh** stock lmao. I got an aftermarket skid as my factory ones rusted away. (LFD Offroad) I am very happy with it. I should probably get a gap plate at some point, but I wouldn't drive straight into ice either :P

Need to find a group to run with some time!

[y=mx+b]

35x10.5 Teaser
I mentioned that I have these tires and I'm going to get them put on soon, but @montijo505 is yanking my chain for always saying soon. Well soon is now!

I'll do a full writeup for the build thread, but just wanted to share some of my initial progress today. Might even do a standalone writeup on fitting larger tires, since theres a lot of misconception about lift helping to clear tires and greater caster being equal to clearance, when both aren't necessarily true

Alignment is currently set with LCAs pushed fully forward (rear cams pushed out, front cams pulled in) and SPC setting F. I'd do G, but I ran out of camber adjustment and was still a few degrees positive. Wheels are stock Toyota 17x7.5 +15, no spacers

Took the shock out so I could cycle everything without needing to compress the spring and whatnot


Anyway, heres the teaser pics:


Do your tires even fit if you can't full lock stuff them?


What surprised me the most, was they were completely off my unmolested body mounts. Full lock on left. Closest between tire and body mount on right. Need a lower angle for the second, but there was about 1/2" between tire and mount. I'm sure it will rub when actually off road and no just a bench test, but I'm leaving them for now


Tires also stay of UCA pretty well, so didn't put on the spacers


Currently the main issue is the wiper fluid reservoir, and Amazon can't get one until next week. I think an Advance Auto has a generic one in the next town over. If not, tupperware reservoir it is!

[y=mx+b]

Originally Posted by MacRendar

Yup. I just put 32" a/t tires on it this week, got a 2" daystar kit coming as well to hopefully be installed next Saturday... I've been to the OHV trails at Uwharrie a few times now which has led me to this point..

Oh yeah, and wiring a VSC delete switch in too... good bye BEEP BEEP+stuck. I need to secure access to a dynamic power supply so that I can confidently test/troubleshoot my 4-lo/center diff actuators. 4-hi has been plenty so far. Clearance is absolute dogsh** stock lmao. I got an aftermarket skid as my factory ones rusted away. (LFD Offroad) I am very happy with it. I should probably get a gap plate at some point, but I wouldn't drive straight into ice either :P

Need to find a group to run with some time!

I ran stock for a few trips, and I think its well worth doing for the experience. Without much advantage from lift, articulation, or bigger tires, I think you really get to learn about how the 4runner performs

yep, stop clearance is doodoo haha. I scraped the bottom a lot until my stock skids ripped off, so good call going with the LFD before they actually get ripped off haha.

and yeah lol ice is no bueno. It wasn't completely solid, but I was second through so there were still some chunks. Probably not needed unless crossing water of unknown contents

For groups, check Carolina 4runners Off-Road Group on FB: Carolina 4Runners Off-Road Group, Tidewater Toyotas: Tidewater Toyotas, and COVA Overland: Log into Facebook. Also if you're into TacomaWorld, there are some regional forums that may have a group closer to you

[montijo505]

Those tires are going to look awesome! You have all necessary tools, give your body mounts a makeover lol


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[y=mx+b]

Originally Posted by montijo505

Those tires are going to look awesome! You have all necessary tools, give your body mounts a makeover lol

Thanks! I might go wheeling and see if they actually touch when not just on jackstands. Then chop from there

I also kinda want to be able to say I've got (skinny) 35s with unchopped body mounts that don't rub lol

[gm350reratliff]

I really like those tall and skinny 35’s! I’m running 255/80 ST Maxx now but those Kenda RTs will probably be my next tire. I’m curious to see the alignment angles once you get it on the rack.

[y=mx+b]

Originally Posted by gm350reratliff

I really like those tall and skinny 35’s! I’m running 255/80 ST Maxx now but those Kenda RTs will probably be my next tire. I’m curious to see the alignment angles once you get it on the rack.

Thanks! I was hesitant to go the skinny tire route, but I think its growing on me.

Camber is set to +0.2 (closest I could get to 0 without, so I'm fine with that. A hair negative would probably be better, but this isn't a race car)

Toe I have measured at 1/16" in on the HTs

Caster is probably 1.5-2°, but I won't really know until I get the printout. LCAs forward, SPC position F. Drove around on that alignment on the smaller tires for a bit and the lower caster isn't really as big a problem as its made out to be

I'm going to take it to firestone eventually to cash in on the lifetime alignment and have them just touch the toe and give a printout of all other specs. Caster is what it is for tire clearance, I've been setting camber with an angle finder, and toe I just find a bit fiddly to get right (ie both tires neutral toe/a tad toe in AND correctly oriented with the steering wheel)

[Billynath1988]

This is an excellent write-up and detailed build thread man. Love the way this is looking!

What's the mounted, under vehicle measured diameter of the Kenda's?

As you know I don't have on my tall skinny 35's yet as of this post,
but from experience with my 34's, You will definitely rub that body mount when wheeling on any decline with the wheel cut. So plan to chop it some lol.

My only suggestion would be to get some extended bump stops going to prevent your tires from popping body panels. I run the durobumps and they work excellent

When you do your final alignment, please post up the printout.

[y=mx+b]

Originally Posted by Billynath1988

This is an excellent write-up and detailed build thread man. Love the way this is looking!

What's the mounted, under vehicle measured diameter of the Kenda's?

As you know I don't have on my tall skinny 35's yet as of this post,
but from experience with my 34's, You will definitely rub that body mount when wheeling on any decline with the wheel cut. So plan to chop it some lol.

My only suggestion would be to get some extended bump stops going to prevent your tires from popping body panels. I run the durobumps and they work excellent

When you do your final alignment, please post up the printout.

True diameter is about 33-3/4"


Yeah I understand things are going to shift when actually wheeling, but its just funny to say I didn't have to chop em lol

Because they're skinny tires, I've got no spacers to clear the UCA and they actually come up inside the fender flares a decent amount. Especially because the IFS cambers in as it stuffs. I did trim a little front and rear, and they don't rub full stuff, at least here in the perfect world on jack stands lol.

Also they have a more rounded profile, so the very tops of the tires are almost 8.5" wide, vs my 265 wildpeaks (which would be essentially the same width) had a more square profile, so the top of the tire was closer to 9.25" wide. Both around 10-10.5" at the full width of the tire Its kinda hard to describe, but I'm curious to see once its flexed out how things really shift, then take pictures to document, and then trim/chop from there

[y=mx+b]

Ta da! No more rubbing at full bump lock to lock (except for the wiper fluid reservoir. Going to work on that this afternoon)


I think the +15 offset suits these tires well, they're flush or maybe 1/2" poked. The skinnies don't look good with too much negative offset


Still getting used to the skinny look in the rear

[Yotascape]

Hell yeah! Those tires look real nice!

[Billynath1988]

Looks great! I think having the spacers on...specifically for the rear might benefit a wider stance look. Other then that looks good. What is your plan for washer fluid?

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