Well, the saga continues. The radio is shot who't connect to to bluetooth, and shuts down and doesn't power back on, and they are still trying to figure out why the steering wheel shakes violently at 60 and above. They were telling me that I might want to contact Toyota HQ and file a claim i might have gotten a lemon. I am kind of upset. My wife was aready at the Jeep dealer looking at the wranglers. I am sad that they won't be able to fix it. I have a lift sitting in the garage, and was planning on getting UCA's and some tires along with some some sliders and a bumper. I am now in limbo waiting. Anyone go through this with a brand new car?
Just dropped of the 4Runner at the dealer and left in a rental.
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JP421
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What Toyota considers a lemon Jeep considers it good enough...
Good luck, hope they take care of you and get it taken care of.
It did it from the get go. I have been taking it to the dealer every friday since April. I said they could keep it and get me a voodoo blue trd pro. or jist give me the trd wheels and tires and we can see what happens. The radio is supposed to be going in today. I guess happy 10k miles to me, but hey I at least have a 2018 Camry in the driveway.
JP421
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Have you seen this thread by chance?
Toyota is Replacing my '18 4Runner TRD ORP... Advice Requested!
mesooohoppy
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there is a gal on here who had the same issues with the steering and toyota ended up buying it back. i cant find the thread right now, but im sure someone knows exactly where its at.
I don't want to go through what she is going through. Man that's shitty.
drewsro
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You should make them put one of the new 2020 radios in
mesooohoppy
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im a dummy. its already been posted in post 5. **facepalm**
LimeLED
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There are quite a few here who have dealt with steering vibration issues, myself included. It seems the steering is sensitive to the slightest vibrations. My fix came when a 4Runner centric off-road shop spent 6 hours balancing my stock tires. Now, the only time I get any shake is when starting out after not driving it for a few days; likely the tires flat spotting. After I drive it for 15-20 minutes it tends to go away.
Regarding the Jeep Wrangler...
I've never owned one, but I've rented one JK Sport and two JL Saharas to date during trips and vacations. In total, I've spend about a month driving them. I love the open air feeling when you have the soft top down or the Freedom panels out, but there is no way I would buy one. They wonder all over the highway and creak and rattle going down the road. In my experience, they are nowhere near as comfortable as my 4Runner either. The 4Runner has better seats, is more spacious, and has a better seating position.
To top it off, the JL build quality issues are atrocious. Go spend some time on the JL forum. They have an ongoing, user contributed list of over 100 items to check before taking delivery. The list is from other users receiving their JLs with those issues. We are not talking minor or trivial issues either. Having a problem with the head unit in a 4Runner sucks, but there are JL owners dealing with bad frame welds and traction bars shearing off.
I'll continue to rent Wranglers when available because they are a lot of fun, but as I said, there is no way I would own one.
mesooohoppy
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lots also not forget the death wobble that jeeps are prone too.
pumacat24
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Yeah, it sucks.
I’ve been on the phone with Toyota 3x today.
Regional is very helpful and they are ready to replace it, but the National people were a bit more apprehensive.
I can’t blame them, they have to verify everything with the Regional people and will get back to me in 1-2 business days.
So it seems that even though I have been told they will replace it, it’s not so simple.
They National guy even threw out if I had to file a lemon law claim. Let’s just says they don’t want me to take that route.
Hopefully everything will move smoothly once he verifies everything with the regional guys.
Ugh. I just want to be in a Pro and for this to be OVER.
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Hans Moleman
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It's the tires causing the shaking. I've fought this problem for over a year and recently resolved it.
I went from stock Dunlop AT20 (multiple balancing) -> Goodyear Ultra Terrain (multiple balancing & replacements) -> BFG KO2
Goodyear paid for the Ultra Terrains because the stock Dunlops were still under warranty. Then the Ultra Terrains made my truck shake violently even after going through many of them because most of them have very high road force (30 to 41 lbs). I was losing hope until America's Tire paid for the BFG KO2's after the Ultra Terrains didn't work out.
So far I'm vibration and shake free with the KO2's. Steering wheel is rock solid even when tires are cold.
I went from stock Dunlop AT20 (multiple balancing) -> Goodyear Ultra Terrain (multiple balancing & replacements) -> BFG KO2
Goodyear paid for the Ultra Terrains because the stock Dunlops were still under warranty. Then the Ultra Terrains made my truck shake violently even after going through many of them because most of them have very high road force (30 to 41 lbs). I was losing hope until America's Tire paid for the BFG KO2's after the Ultra Terrains didn't work out.
So far I'm vibration and shake free with the KO2's. Steering wheel is rock solid even when tires are cold.
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pumacat24
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That’s wonderful for you!!!
For some people sure it’s the tires, but unfortunately not in my case. [emoji27]
100% verified not the issue.
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I get a shimmy around 55-60 but it's nothing alarming. That said, seeing all of these posts of people with similar issues and Toyota is admitting that there is in fact an issue has me wondering. Maybe I should get it checked out before we hit 36K miles and lose the bumper to bumper.
Salvo Jimmy
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Financial advisor tells his client he needs to spend down now on his kids so they avoid big inheritance taxes. Client asks how to go about that. Advisor says buy each kid and spouse a Jeep and pay for all corrective maintenance.
Hans Moleman
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Yes it looks like you had quite an ordeal. Fortunately you found a dealer who is willing to help instead of just saying it's normal. We were all hoping your dealer came up with a fix which can be passed on to all of us.
