so I installed the CBI Covert Front Bumper and WTF?

Gouranga · Oct 6, 2021

first let me show you how they advertised it in the pics.. nice and tight fit at the edges / corner

expectation

reality

now the bar fit pretty good inside ..

but then im confused what are these two hook looking things at the bottom doing there ? i didnt see them in other peoples pics

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online it had these pics and i didnt see any of that under
example:

mine is a 2021 venture
these are the parts that had to come off in order for it fit

you gonna need an aftermarket skid plate now thx cbi

grizzlypath · Oct 6, 2021

Can't speak to the fitment, but those lower 'bars' are braces that had to be moved down due to your vehicle having KDSS.

mrblah · Oct 6, 2021

Gouranga said:
first let me show you how they advertised it in the pics.. nice and tight fit at the edges / corner

expectation

reality

now the bar fit pretty good inside ..

but then im confused what are these two hook looking things at the bottom doing there ? i didnt see them in other peoples pics

//
online it had these pics and i didnt see any of that under
example:

mine is a 2021 venture
these are the parts that had to come off in order for it fit

does anyone know if I can get some skid plate to go over that area to hide them ?

what did you expect from aftermarket parts fitting like OEM? Well, they don't. None of them do. Your expectations might be a bit high.

Those bars are your radiator support. Depending on what skid plate you choose, you may or may not have to remove them. In the "other" pics, they removed them for god knows what reason. I personally wouldn't remove them, until you have actual, legit skidplates, or you can put your OEM factory skidplates back on.

Gouranga · Oct 6, 2021

mrblah said:
what did you expect from aftermarket parts fitting like OEM? Well, they don't. None of them do. Your expectations might be a bit high.

Those bars are your radiator support. Depending on what skid plate you choose, you may or may not have to remove them. In the "other" pics, they removed them for god knows what reason. I personally wouldn't remove them, until you have actual, legit skidplates, or you can put your OEM factory skidplates back on.

well they had pics showing it fitting nice and tight .. all they had to do make it 1/4'' longer on the sides then it would fit much better

the oem factory skidplate wont fit as you can see this bumper goes under half way into where the old was making it not posssible to put the skidplate to put over this .

unless anyone who has this bumper can please tell me what skidplate worked fitting over

mrblah · Oct 6, 2021

Gouranga said:
well they had pics showing it fitting nice and tight .. all they had to do make it 1/4'' longer on the sides then it would fit much better

the oem factory skidplate wont fit as you can see this bumper goes under half way into where the old was making it not posssible to put the skidplate to put over this .

unless anyone who has this bumper can please tell me what skidplate worked fitting over

Well, complain to CBI. Good luck with that.

Did you install this yourself?

I'm confused. The holes to mount the front of your skid plate is right next to the radiator support in your pics. You don't reuse the plastic filler plate.

If you can't figure this out..welp good luck man.

hallcs · Oct 6, 2021

The hooks at the bottom

The hooks at the bottom are support for the front skid plate and protection for your KDSS stabilizer bar. I have them as well. When I looked at those type of bumpers for my 2021 Venture several of the manufactures install instructions said to remove them when installing their bumpers. Try removing then adjusting your bumper again, you can leave those brackets off but it does take away from the strength of the factory skid plate. If your going off road you may want a thicker skid plate to compensate.

Xtremluck · Oct 6, 2021

Gouranga said:
first let me show you how they advertised it in the pics.. nice and tight fit at the edges / corner

It's a winch bumper that you will be in theory smashing into rocks and violently yanking on. Not a carbon fiber splitter on a super car.

srsrogerissrs · Oct 6, 2021

Xtremluck said:
It's a winch bumper that you will be in theory smashing into rocks and violently yanking on. Not a carbon fiber splitter on a super car.

Also... anything mounted straight to the frame (aka aftermarket bumpers) have the possibility of moving separate from the body. If the tolerances were that tight... the next post would be 'CBI BUMPER SCRAPING PAINT OFF FRONT BUMPER'. There is also the possibility of slight adjustments to be made when the bumper mates to the frame. You can loosen the bolts and try shifting it more to the driver's side if it's off center.

Ascole · Oct 6, 2021

Those are your front suspension member brace sub-assembly’s, but referred to as radiator support brackets. Looks like they were removed in the stock CBI photo.
I had them on my Non-KDSS SR5 and removed them because they were hitting my sway bar.

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5thToy · Oct 6, 2021

srsrogerissrs said:
Also... anything mounted straight to the frame (aka aftermarket bumpers) have the possibility of moving separate from the body. If the tolerances were that tight... the next post would be 'CBI BUMPER SCRAPING PAINT OFF FRONT BUMPER'. There is also the possibility of slight adjustments to be made when the bumper mates to the frame. You can loosen the bolts and try shifting it more to the driver's side if it's off center.

This. And the CBI stock picture is also taken at an angle that obscures/lessens the appearance of a gap.

Gouranga · Oct 7, 2021

mrblah said:
Well, complain to CBI. Good luck with that.

Did you install this yourself?

I'm confused. The holes to mount the front of your skid plate is right next to the radiator support in your pics. You don't reuse the plastic filler plate.

If you can't figure this out..welp good luck man.

i dont have a pro.. its a venture....
you sure are confused because the bumper is extended to where the factory skid plate is.. you dont put it back on.. look at the pics again of the parts that came off and whats on right now

Sundy · Oct 7, 2021

Gouranga said:
i dont have a pro.. its a venture....
you sure are confused because the bumper is extended to where the factory skid plate is.. you dont put it back on.. look at the pics again of the parts that came off and whats on right now

It doesn't matter if it's a pro or venture, they are the same thing minus some cosmetics and OEM shocks.

Did you read up on the installs? As stated, there is typically room for making adjustments. Secondly, those are the OEM skid braces. Reinstall your skid and they will be covered. Get an aftermarket skid and they are removed.

All the lo-pro bumpers are pretty much the same...
C4 Fab Lo Pro Bumper Install 5th Gen 4Runner - Trail4Runner.com

Gouranga · Oct 7, 2021

5thToy said:
This. And the CBI stock picture is also taken at an angle that obscures/lessens the appearance of a gap.

this was on before...

now replaced with this

Gouranga · Oct 7, 2021

Sundy said:
It doesn't matter if it's a pro or venture, they are the same thing minus some cosmetics and OEM shocks.

Did you read up on the installs? As stated, there is typically room for making adjustments. Secondly, those are the OEM skid braces. Reinstall your skid and they will be covered. Get an aftermarket skid and they are removed.

All the lo-pro bumpers are pretty much the same...
C4 Fab Lo Pro Bumper Install 5th Gen 4Runner - Trail4Runner.com

i meant i dont have a pro as in i dont have a PRO skid plate and the oem one doesnt go over the aftermarket bumper as its extneded low where the skitpate would of been

even stated on CBI that oem skidplate will not go over..
why is that so hard to understand ?

Gouranga · Oct 7, 2021

Sundy said:
It doesn't matter if it's a pro or venture, they are the same thing minus some cosmetics and OEM shocks.

Did you read up on the installs? As stated, there is typically room for making adjustments. Secondly, those are the OEM skid braces. Reinstall your skid and they will be covered. Get an aftermarket skid and they are removed.

All the lo-pro bumpers are pretty much the same...
C4 Fab Lo Pro Bumper Install 5th Gen 4Runner - Trail4Runner.com

night and day difference
the C4 you posted goes straight down while mine extends down an angle to the back where the oem skid plate was to replace it.. do you not look at the pics i posted ? ..

Ascole · Oct 7, 2021

I imagine the CBI front skid plate will be compatible with the Covert bumper…

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ryguytheman · Oct 7, 2021

The skid plate should go back on without issue. Your bumper is not covering the area that your skid did. Have you tried to put it back on? As someone else mentioned, the mounting holes are clearly visible in your photos.

mrblah · Oct 7, 2021

ryguytheman said:
The skid plate should go back on without issue. Your bumper is not covering the area that your skid did. Have you tried to put it back on? As someone else mentioned, the mounting holes are clearly visible in your photos.

hes not listening.

can't help people who won't listen.

Gouranga · Oct 8, 2021

mrblah said:
hes not listening.

can't help people who won't listen.

you must be low IQ or something

i had a pro shop install it.. it doesnt go over it..

and yes i tried to place it where the 2 only holes are the other holes to mount it are not there anymore or they will cover half the lower part of the bumper

do you see the square window like area aka the winch access window in my pics ?
if i was to put the oem skid plate it would cover that lower half area basically
and finally cbi itself mentions oem skid plates wont fit after install

so wtf u talking about u clown

mrblah · Oct 8, 2021

Gouranga said:
you must be low IQ or something

i had a pro shop install it.. it doesnt go over it..

and yes i tried to place it where the 2 only holes are the other holes to mount it are not there anymore or they will cover half the lower part of the bumper

do you see the square window like area aka the winch access window in my pics ?
if i was to put the oem skid plate it would cover that lower half area basically
and finally cbi itself mentions oem skid plates wont fit after install

so wtf u talking about u clown

I love insults.... definitely makes people want to go out of their way to help you.

You should contact CBI at this point, since you can't be bothered to listen to what we are trying to tell you.

Also, FYI, that "square window like area" is not the winch access window..LOL.. The "winch access holes" are on both sides of the fairlead. The "Square window like area" is where your plastic filler plate use to reside, NOT the skid plate. SO thank you for proving to all of us your high level of understanding of the product you purchased.

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